Ginx snewx Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 3:05 AM, mreaves said: Well, as expected, the Habs went down to the Lightning. Oh well, they had a good run. At least I still have England in the Euro Championship. Go England! Beat Italy! Expand Forsa Azzuri! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 2:46 PM, PhineasC said: The media coverage of the variants has been absurd and criminal. I have been telling the Boomers in my family to just turn off the TV. Expand yeah, CNN's home page is comical today....gimme a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 3:02 PM, Brian5671 said: yeah, CNN's home page is comical today....gimme a break Expand There is definitely a reason they are doing this now. I haven't quite nailed down why, but none of the obvious answers are good. People need to just turn it off and tune it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 3:05 PM, PhineasC said: There is definitely a reason they are doing this now. I haven't quite nailed down why, but none of the obvious answers are good. People need to just turn it off and tune it out. Expand Ratings and timing leverage Japans Olympic announcement with some of the most attention grabbing headlines and then see if the ratings spike , and then maybe we can refire this story line successfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 6:15 AM, weathafella said: They also have a lower vaccinated rate than people realize. Expand Israel has 57% of everybody fully vaxxed (over 80% of adults). That is better than the US as a whole. Certain states are higher but most aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 12:26 PM, PhineasC said: You should just give yourself COVID and then recover (which will be easy) so it doesn't scare you anymore. Expand Who says I am scared? Just discussing what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 5:08 PM, Hoosier said: Who says I am scared? Just discussing what is going on. Expand You have posted a lot over the past 13 months about deaths, cases, breakthroughs, failed vaccines, etc. Just seems like these variants have you spooked. You'd most likely be perfectly fine if you got COVID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 5:02 PM, STILL N OF PIKE said: Ratings and timing leverage Japans Olympic announcement with some of the most attention grabbing headlines and then see if the ratings spike , and then maybe we can refire this story line successfully Expand This thread is my source of news. Without some of you guys I’d have no idea how the outside world was so messed up lol. Its also the only time I’ve heard of any of these variants or COVID in weeks it seems, ha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 5:10 PM, PhineasC said: You have posted a lot over the past 13 months about deaths, cases, breakthroughs, failed vaccines, etc. Just seems like these variants have you spooked. You'd most likely be perfectly fine if you got COVID. Expand Much of what I post is numbers based. If that came off as "spinning things as bad", well, things were bad over the fall and winter. I am fully vaxxed and living a normal life. I know you didn't get vaccinated but on the macro scale, wouldn't you say it is important to monitor the efficacy of the vaccines over time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bch2014 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 1:29 PM, Cold Miser said: I was in North and South Carolina for about 10 days at the end of June. What I found interesting when talking with people who live and work in the Myrtle Beach, S.C. and Asheville, N.C. area was that the states were not as "wide open" and hap-hazard as the news media portrayed during the peak covid times. Business were very in tune with CDC guidelines for mask wearing, and social distancing. Our visit happened to coincide at a point when many guidelines were recently lifted. Many restaurants and other places still had employees wearing masks. Expand Agree with the people you talked with-I was in Hilton Head in March, and while more open than the northeast was at the time, it certainly wasn’t “open season.” Same with Utah in February. First time I really felt like things were “normal” was in Tennessee in early May. I was just in Tahoe for the 4th and it’s open season there-just like it is NY, MA, NH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 CNBC: U.S. heading for 'dangerous fall' with surge in delta Covid cases and return of indoor mask mandates.https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/08/us-heading-for-dangerous-fall-with-surge-in-delta-covid-cases-and-return-of-indoor-mask-mandates.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 6:03 PM, Whineminster said: CNBC: U.S. heading for 'dangerous fall' with surge in delta Covid cases and return of indoor mask mandates.https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/08/us-heading-for-dangerous-fall-with-surge-in-delta-covid-cases-and-return-of-indoor-mask-mandates.html Expand I picture some copy writer pulling their hair out while yelling “stop clicking and sharing this! I’m so sick of writing this crap but ya’ll keep clicking, copying, pasting. Even by mocking this ya’ll are feeding it and making them have me write more low-grade COVID shit. They don’t care why you click on it, as long as you do.” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernovice Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 1:08 PM, STILL N OF PIKE said: I notice many more articles in the financial press about the delta variant . It’s like not only does the fear mongering generate clicks (“it’s Covid on steroids says one expert” , “vaccinated people can still pass it on “ but it’s spooks a lot of older folks Expand Goldman released a note last night on the global economic impacts. They aren't great. Rolling restrictions, continued supply chain disruptions etc...not a surprise to anyone paying attention. But that's what's generating today's headlines. Letting this thing run rampant within a partially vaccinated population is just the sort of thing I would do if I wanted it to gain resistance to the vaccines currently deployed. It is literally a matter of time imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 6:13 PM, powderfreak said: I picture some copy writer pulling their hair out while yelling “stop clicking and sharing this! I’m so sick of writing this crap but ya’ll keep clicking, copying, pasting. Even by mocking this ya’ll are feeding it and making them have me write more low-grade COVID shit. They don’t care why you click on it, as long as you do.” Expand lol. It was mostly to get Phin riled up about our impending doom. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 At this point (barring a minuscule minority of people who cannot safely take the vaccine), if you remain unvaxxed and get a serious case of covid, that is on you. Anyone who has wanted a vaccine has been able to get one with fairly minimal effort for a couple months now (longer in some areas). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 6:13 PM, powderfreak said: I picture some copy writer pulling their hair out while yelling “stop clicking and sharing this! I’m so sick of writing this crap but ya’ll keep clicking, copying, pasting. Even by mocking this ya’ll are feeding it and making them have me write more low-grade COVID shit. They don’t care why you click on it, as long as you do.” Expand I could def see VT locking back down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 6:03 PM, Whineminster said: CNBC: U.S. heading for 'dangerous fall' with surge in delta Covid cases and return of indoor mask mandates.https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/08/us-heading-for-dangerous-fall-with-surge-in-delta-covid-cases-and-return-of-indoor-mask-mandates.html Expand Sucks to live in those states with low vaccination rates I guess. Covid is effectively over in MA and the northeast as a whole. See you for the next pandemic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 7:09 PM, ORH_wxman said: At this point (barring a minuscule minority of people who cannot safely take the vaccine), if you remain unvaxxed and get a serious case of covid, that is on you. Anyone who has wanted a vaccine has been able to get one with fairly minimal effort for a couple months now (longer in some areas). Expand Pretty much. I find it incredibly hard to believe there will be a reintroduction of restrictions come fall and winter with the vaccination rates here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 At least we’ve gone from the certain “apocalyptic” fall and winter 2020-2021 to the “dangerous” fall and winter 2021-2022. This has gone beyond silly at this point. If you're scared, stay home. The rest of us are all set with restrictions and masks. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 7:52 PM, DomNH said: At least we’ve gone from the certain “apocalyptic” fall and winter 2020-2021 to the “dangerous” fall and winter 2021-2022. This has gone beyond silly at this point. If you're scared, stay home. The rest of us are all set with restrictions and masks. Expand If I lived in a state like Mississippi or Missouri I would expect a return to masks if more don’t get vaccinated. I’m not worried about that happening in New England. I just don’t understand the large scale hesitancy there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 8:16 PM, HoarfrostHubb said: If I lived in a state like Mississippi or Missouri I would expect a return to masks if more don’t get vaccinated. I’m not worried about that happening in New England. I just don’t understand the large scale hesitancy there. Expand I don’t either but I think it is what it is and folks are not changing their minds. I’m vaccinated but personally could not care less if someone chooses not to. If they get sick and have a bad outcome that’s 100% on them at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I also think vaccinated people who are concerned with being in the presence of unvaccinated people are weenies of the highest order. Concerned about the minimal chance of a breakthrough and some cold or flu like symptoms for a few days? 21 bun salute. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 7:15 PM, PhineasC said: I could def see VT locking back down. Expand Highest vaccination rate in the country. It’s over. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 8:44 PM, powderfreak said: Highest vaccination rate in the country. It’s over. Expand Let’s hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 8:46 PM, PhineasC said: Let’s hope. Expand Oh you were serious? Ha I thought you were trolling and laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 8:49 PM, powderfreak said: Oh you were serious? Ha I thought you were trolling and laughing. Expand It seems rather silly to pretend restrictions could never return to VT if cases spike in the fall from a variant that evades the vaccines. But ok… maybe FL will bring back masks first. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 8:44 PM, powderfreak said: Highest vaccination rate in the country. It’s over. Expand Unless they decide to emulate Australia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 8:54 PM, PhineasC said: It seems rather silly to pretend restrictions could never return to VT if cases spike in the fall from a variant that evades the vaccines. But ok… maybe FL will bring back masks first. Sure. Expand Oh I thought you said lock down, like full stay at home. Masks? Sure I could see any number of states going that route if people start dying again. Our Republican gov would just follow other states’ leads in the northeast to be honest. He lifted everything back to normal faster than many states too. I just think of lockdown as the “Stay at Home” time. That ship sailed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Lol my post came off way harsher than intended on second read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiwara79 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 8:27 PM, DomNH said: I don’t either but I think it is what it is and folks are not changing their minds. I’m vaccinated but personally could not care less if someone chooses not to. If they get sick and have a bad outcome that’s 100% on them at this point. Expand Philosophically, that's true, but in reality many of voluntarily unvaxxed people that are currently hospitalized or in the ICU are getting their medical bills paid for by either the CARES act or the recent covid relief bill (especially if they are uninsured). Instead of offering lottery tickets and cash prizes to get vaxxed, the federal government should instead stop subsidizing hospitalizations for these people. Make the hospitals and insurance companies figure out how to pay for it. If this happened, you'll start seeing insurance companies compel employers to require vaccines for their workforce. Suddenly they'll realize that insurance companies are not as nice and coddling as the goobermint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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