PhineasC Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: I'm actually really happy that you can afford to make that decision with your kids. Truly. If I could I think my wife and I would do the same, but not everyone is in that position. So I get irritated when I see people who in the name of their freedom take away from my kids' freedom (I'm not singling you out here, but the broader "people" who actively flout the recommendations to make a statement). I can't force anyone to get a vaccine or get their kids vaccinated for COVID (of course we do for many other diseases), but the primary way my kid will not get it at school is if those people mask up in indoor, public settings at the current moment. I don't like it anymore than the next person (I've been wearing a mask at work for 8-10 hours a shift since last summer, I get it, I'm tired of it too). I can’t disagree with any of this. I always feel the worst for the kids in this entire thing. They have had a rough go of it in a lot of ways. We are very fortunate to be able to homeschool. It has made a world of difference in eliminating one major source of stress and risk for us. I really hope this school year somehow works out for the kids. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedizel Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, wxtrix said: from your link: how is that rate--a little over 20% of .003& "to [sic] much death" compared to the number of unvaccinated people who have died, and compared to the rising infection rate as of late because selfish people won't get vaccinated and/or wear masks? Its to much for certain governors in this country. Politicians wont care the death rate is around seasonal flu. Restrictions will still be in place because of cases and occasional death. The scare of mutations alone is enough for mask mandates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedizel Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: This is what is going to send me out of Banter for the night. 4,115 out of ~164,000,000. Even if the level of breakthrough infection was 10 or heck let's say 50 times higher than what has been reported that's still only .125% of vaccinated people. Then lets open up the country. Its not a big deal if you vaccinated right. Due away with mask and all other BS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, natedizel said: Then lets open up the country. Its not a big deal if you vaccinated right. Due away with mask and all other BS. What's not open? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedizel Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, snowman21 said: What's not open? Let me re-phrase.. Due away with mask, mandates, restrictions.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 18 hours ago, tamarack said: I know at least one boomer who's not asking such questions, and has zero regrets on being vaccinated. Actually, it's 2 boomers. Make it 4 from our house! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 Anyway...going to do some Icelandic horse driving. Apparently these things have 5 speeds instead of the typical 4. And don’t call them ponies (even though I probably weigh more than some of them) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 8 hours ago, PhineasC said: It is indeed a very small number so far. Some of you seem to think my posts are intended to question the effectiveness of the vaccines at preventing serious disease and death, and that causes some angst and defensiveness. Vaccines are very serious business here. That's not my intent at all. I am not trying to create doubt about the vaccine (the vaccinated are doing enough of that to themselves). I am simply commenting on the "casedemic" and the government reaction to it. This early data is just another log on the fire that boosting everyone forever is still probably not going to stop these clusters of cases that can cause government overreactions and restrictions. Hope that helps. Take the politics to another forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 So the "let er rip" crowd are ok with ~175,000k deaths a year with Covid. US averaging 500 deaths a day right now. That would place it in the top 5 for causes of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: So the "let er rip" crowd are ok with ~175,000k deaths a year with Covid. US averaging 500 deaths a day right now. That would place it in the top 5 for causes of death. How many deaths are you OK with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 7 hours ago, wxtrix said: none of you can think critically. where are you getting this nonsense from? go away before they lock this thread again b/c of you 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, PhineasC said: How many deaths are you OK with? I'd like to see under 40k/yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 15 hours ago, HoarfrostHubb said: None of us had a good camera. Just iPhones how did you get a picture of @Lava Rocks back yard? 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, White Rain said: Maybe the focus should be on booting the posters from other regions stirring up trouble instead? Some mods like to see the day to day Functioning disrupted , they will say blah blah blah , but the solution should be simple . If the regional forum members voted for the solution it would be a landslide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Some mods like to see the day to day Functioning disrupted , they will say blah blah blah , but the solution should be simple . If the regional forum members voted for the solution it would be a landslide I don't think it's too much to ask for less political leans and member trashing. Anyone can post in whatever sub forum they want and this is a weather forum, not a political one. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I love the covid banter. Please don't do away with it. It's better than the Red Sox. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 They’re only lies if you don’t believe them 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, amarshall said: I love the covid banter. Please don't do away with it. It's better than the Red Sox. non stop entertainment here.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 18 hours ago, Jessy89 said: https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/8/5/22611061/epsilon-variant-covid-vaccines-new-research Can anyone explain this? What now I have no interest in taking the vaccine. I’ll trust my own immune system . We have to hope the current vaccines work against the future variants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 15 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: OMG What's your point? This vaccine will not affect him badly because he had cancer. Many people have taken the vaccine and they have or had cancer. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 14 hours ago, wxtrix said: great. link me up so I can send the links to my mom, who has cancer and who happily got vaccinated last year. He is most likely trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 14 hours ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Lol. I live with Chronic Leukemia. Jumped to the front of the line to get the chip implant. Is robots taking over your brain ? The conspiracy theorists are out of control. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Brian5671 said: go away before they lock this thread again b/c of you That's what happened last time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, MJO812 said: That's what happened last time That’s the plan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: That’s the plan Just don’t engage her. A little self control. If you don’t respond to it, there’s little reason to stay. She justs want attention. So why give it to her. Ignore it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Last year we had a long and (usually) informative COVID-19 thread. Then a minority chose to troll incessantly and trash other members to the point where the mods understandably closed the thread. Hoping that doesn't reoccur (and it took a half dozen or so folks engaging in that boorishness to bring it down, not just one.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Just now, tamarack said: Last year we had a long and (usually) informative COVID-19 thread. Then a minority chose to troll incessantly and trash other members to the point where the mods understandably closed the thread. Hoping that doesn't reoccur (and it took a half dozen or so folks engaging in that boorishness to bring it down, not just one.) I give it 6 hrs to be closed now that the Trix has showed up.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Just now, tamarack said: Last year we had a long and (usually) informative COVID-19 thread. Then a minority chose to troll incessantly and trash other members to the point where the mods understandably closed the thread. Hoping that doesn't reoccur (and it took a half dozen or so folks engaging in that boorishness to bring it down, not just one.) It's become far more politicized now that we've got vaccines out there and we as a Country are virtually wide open again. There's polarizing talking points on both sides with little acceptance or compromise about some ways we can move forward and not backwards to where we were. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Dr. Eric Topol wrote a good article on how America is flying blind when it comes to the Delta variant... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/09/america-is-flying-blind-when-it-comes-to-the-delta-variant I wonder if the lack of counting of breakthrough cases in our country is because they just want to keep calling it "a pandemic of the unvaccinated" here. We know from data from other countries like the UK and Israel that there are a huge amount of breakthrough cases. And as Eric Topol mentions in the article, some countries are reporting that 10% to 20% of their hospitalizations are in vaccinated people. In fact I just read an article that talked about the fact that the UK just released data on their Delta variant hospitalizations from July 19th to August 2nd. Of the 1,467 people that were hospitalized, 512 people (34.9%) were vaccinated. You have to wonder why other countries are reporting that a much higher percentage of people in hospitals are vaccinated. The United States just is not being honest about the fact that the Delta variant is causing a significant threat to vaccinated people. I was just reading about the outbreak that Iceland is having right now. They thought Covid was over, but now they're having a big outbreak due to the Delta variant. In Iceland, 93% of the population over 16 years old is vaccinated. Yet they're seeing an outbreak. The vaccines just are not stopping the transmission of the Delta variant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewbeer Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 It really is a shame that people can't kept posting misinformation without it being challenged. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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