STILL N OF PIKE Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Nice major cane making a run for Cabo San Lucas next weekend- into Monday the 9’th 720$ round trip plus 300$ for 3 nites ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Better hope it's not ADE. Sent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk Imagine that ..Game Over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, Hoosier said: The ol "pathogenic priming"? That is one of the theories floating around among anti-vaxxers, and it's not as stupid as microchips and what not since ADE has actually been observed in prior vaccine(s). No compelling evidence of it with the covid vaccines though. This isn’t likely, at least on any scale. The reported breakthrough cases have been mostly mild. ADE usually manifests as really nasty effects. This isn’t what’s been observed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 minute ago, WhitinsvilleWX said: This isn’t likely, at least on any scale. The reported breakthrough cases have been mostly mild. ADE usually manifests as really nasty effects. This isn’t what’s been observed. Variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 If the Israel data is supported in other areas like the US, not sure how they will help the vaccine push effort. Sent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: If the Israel data is supported in other areas like the US, not sure how they will help the vaccine push effort. Sent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk The US is currently being a lot less transparent about this topic. You can still get locked out of Twitter and Facebook for posting about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Seems I recall an article or two.. .perhaps television over the last whence discussing the unlikelihood of ever actually achieving "herd immunity". Dissenting attitudes and social distrust morass that runs rampant throughout the ever-schismatic zeitgeists ( ..uh, culturally fracturing - ) are forces not likely to overcome; combining with logistical challenges inherent to to 'reaching' so many enclaves with vaccine and survivor numbers, when dealing with 7 1/2 billion population mass, makes doing that fuzzy. These were conceptualized... Well ? here we are ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Modfan2 said: Jen is a news paper editor from the Alachua Times (Gainesville) and she has done a pretty good job during the pandemic trying to get a real numbers to the public. She’s not a reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 More mixed messaging. This morning Collins said that the main reason behind recommending vaxed people mask in areas of high spread is to protect those who are un vaxed. UH, no sorry. I’m not wearing a face diaper to protect people who refuse a vax. People who have refused them don’t want one and dont care. I have little compunction to alter my lifestyle for people who voluntarily refuse something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 minute ago, WhitinsvilleWX said: More mixed messaging. This morning Collins said that the main reason behind recommending vaxed people mask in areas of high spread is to protect those who are un vaxed. UH, no sorry. I’m not wearing a face diaper to protect people who refuse a vax. People who have refused them don’t want one and dont care. I have little compunction to alter my lifestyle for people who voluntarily refuse something. Desperate thrashing to keep the narrative going now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Just now, PhineasC said: Desperate thrashing to keep the narrative going now. If I led my life according to the CDC, I wouldn’t enjoy a medium rare porterhouse, either. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, WhitinsvilleWX said: More mixed messaging. This morning Collins said that the main reason behind recommending vaxed people mask in areas of high spread is to protect those who are un vaxed. UH, no sorry. I’m not wearing a face diaper to protect people who refuse a vax. People who have refused them don’t want one and dont care. I have little compunction to alter my lifestyle for people who voluntarily refuse something. So far Lamont has held off re-issuing mask mandate, however it's "recommended" I'm not wearing one until it's illegal to not do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: So far Lamont has held off re-issuing mask mandate, however it's "recommended" I'm not wearing one until it's illegal to not do so. If it’s mandated here anywhere, they’ll have to ask me to leave because I’m not doing it anymore. Exceptions are work since they pay me, and airlines because I need to fly next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, WhitinsvilleWX said: If it’s mandated here anywhere, they’ll have to ask me to leave because I’m not doing it anymore. Exceptions are work since they pay me, and airlines because I need to fly next week. I’m wearing it in stores until I get my negative tests and of course in airports. When I’m away I will need to wear it indoors in stores etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I’m wearing it in stores until I get my negative tests and of course in airports. When I’m away I will need to wear it indoors in stores etc. if I were traveling in your situation I would think about it for nothing else that I do not trust the PCR test. It can pop a positive if you inhale a couple of particles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedizel Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 For whatever its worth and probably not much, Americas favorite teddy bear says no lockdowns coming. Could he be right for once? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fauci-predicts-us-will-not-return-lockdowns-despite-delta-variant-risks-2021-08-01/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, WhitinsvilleWX said: if I were traveling in your situation I would think about it for nothing else that I do not trust the PCR test. It can pop a positive if you inhale a couple of particles. We are doing the rapid antigen tests. Was that a good idea? Both countries allow them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, natedizel said: For whatever its worth and probably not much, Americas favorite teddy bear says no lockdowns coming. Could he be right for once? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fauci-predicts-us-will-not-return-lockdowns-despite-delta-variant-risks-2021-08-01/ I don’t see why lockdowns would happen again. No one has the desire for that except some whackadoos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I'm open to suggestion .. I'm not sure I get it/understand the connection between vaccinated population obligatory-atoning for un-vaccinated population ? can that be explained to me. I'm curious what other points of view are on that specific ( sort of ..) morally ambiguous responsibility. Vaccinated are those that have done their part to ensure macro safety; to mandate them in order to protect those whom by their own election ( in the vaster majority ) refuse, is an imposition. I'm sure there are those that are Kumbaya about it all and are willing to do so.. .but, ( imho - ) masks are not part of the biological imperative of human existence. So which is the greater imposition ? I guess I'm tipping my hat as to my own attitude/answer to the question with this ending question. Granted there are rare exceptions, where one may not be able to take a vaccine - those individuals are excessively remote compared to the numbers/vitality of the whole, and because of their small numbers ... they/that really should not present any kind of logistical challenge in managing their safety. So...just if we can exclude those exceptions - I'm not sure anyone vaccinated should be required, either by ethics or logic, to do anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: We are doing the rapid antigen tests. Was that a good idea? Both countries allow them Oh yea, much better IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 Just now, WhitinsvilleWX said: Oh yea, much better IMO We also just realized that our 14 year old does not need to test either way. So that eliminates some of that risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: I'm open to suggestion .. I'm not sure I get it/understand the connection between vaccinated population atoning for un-vaccinated population ? can that be explained to me. I'm curious what other points of view are on that specific ( sort of ..) morally ambiguous responsibility. Vaccinated are those that have done their part to ensure macro safety; to mandate them in order to protect those whom by their own election ( in the vaster majority ) refuse, is an imposition. I'm sure there are those that are Kumbaya about it all and are willing to do so.. .but, ( imho - ) masks are not part of the biological imperative of human existence. So which is the greater imposition ? I guess I'm tipping my hat as to my own attitude/answer to the question with this ending question. Granted there are rare exceptions, where one may not be able to take a vaccine - those individuals are excessively remote compared to the vitality of the whole, and because of their small numbers ... they/that really should not present any kind of logistical challenge in managing their safety. So...just if we can exclude those exceptions - I'm not sure anyone vaccinated should be required, either by ethics or logic, to do anything. I’m not sure why the narrative for the immunocompromised is different. My mother has had lupus for years. She watches it during flu season. She never expected that people would cater to her, nor even be aware. Same with my brother in law. When he had a bone marrow transplant for his AML, he masked up when he went out. Didn’t worry about other people around him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I'm open to suggestion .. I'm not sure I get it/understand the connection between vaccinated population obligatory-atoning for un-vaccinated population ? can that be explained to me. I'm curious what other points of view are on that specific ( sort of ..) morally ambiguous responsibility. Vaccinated are those that have done their part to ensure macro safety; to mandate them in order to protect those whom by their own election ( in the vaster majority ) refuse, is an imposition. I'm sure there are those that are Kumbaya about it all and are willing to do so.. .but, ( imho - ) masks are not part of the biological imperative of human existence. So which is the greater imposition ? I guess I'm tipping my hat as to my own attitude/answer to the question with this ending question. Granted there are rare exceptions, where one may not be able to take a vaccine - those individuals are excessively remote compared to the numbers/vitality of the whole, and because of their small numbers ... they/that really should not present any kind of logistical challenge in managing their safety. So...just if we can exclude those exceptions - I'm not sure anyone vaccinated should be required, either by ethics or logic, to do anything. Same people that masked and vaxxed originally during the outbreak will have to do it again and hope that those who chose to do neither the first time will reconsider. Then we pray for science to deliver yet again and try not to hate those who refuse. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 And Fauci said on This Week that masks shouldn’t be a choice. The best thing that the Biden admin could do is to get rid of this guy or at least keep him off TV and send him back to his lab in Bethesda. He’s at best a divisive disaster and at worst just an old fool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 And Fauci said on This Week that masks shouldn’t be a choice. The best thing that the Biden admin could do is to get rid of this guy or at least keep him off TV and send him back to his lab in Bethesda. He’s at best a divisive disaster and at worst just an old fool.We can also keep ****ing around and be talking about this for the next 20 years as a national issue. Mask mandate, vaxx mandate needs to happen. . 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, WeatherX said: We can also keep ****ing around and be talking about this for the next 20 years as a national issue. Mask mandate, vaxx mandate needs to happen. . Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, WeatherX said: We can also keep ****ing around and be talking about this for the next 20 years as a national issue. Mask mandate, vaxx mandate needs to happen. . We need to put the vaccinated into camps so you guys don’t spread the virus or fall prey to ADE from a variant. It’s the only way out of this pandemic. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 minute ago, PhineasC said: We need to put the vaccinated into camps so you guys don’t spread the virus or fall prey to ADE from a variant. It’s the only way out of this pandemic. If the camp location sees >150” snow and has plentiful milfs ...I’m down 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, WeatherX said: Same people that masked and vaxxed originally during the outbreak will have to do it again and hope that those who chose to do neither the first time will reconsider. Then we pray for science to deliver yet again and try not to hate those who refuse. . Boy are you gonna be shocked when you find out that the vaccinated are spreading this around now. The local 6 pm news isn’t telling you this yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 minute ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: If the camp location sees >150” snow and has plentiful milfs ...I’m down Why do you think I bought the place I did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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