Hoosier Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 RSV has been going around at unusually high levels for this time of year. There have been stories in the news about it. Who knows what else is circulating. If the viral interference thing happens, then perhaps covid overtakes it, but I don't think it would be accurate to assume that any possible symptom that anybody has right now is covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hoosier said: RSV has been going around at unusually high levels for this time of year. There have been stories in the news about it. Who knows what else is circulating. If the viral interference thing happens, then perhaps covid overtakes it, but I don't think it would be accurate to assume that any possible symptom that anybody has right now is covid. You are definitely someone I could see spending hours online hitting WebMD to find anything else to explain how your symptoms are not COVID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I saw an article where a 39 year old died. His nickname was "Big Mike" Unbelievable how linked this is with obesity. https://www.nbc12.com/2021/07/30/i-should-have-gotten-damn-vaccine-father-5-dies-covid-age-39/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Jonger said: I saw an article where a 39 year old died. His nickname was "Big Mike" Unbelievable how linked this is with obesity. https://www.nbc12.com/2021/07/30/i-should-have-gotten-damn-vaccine-father-5-dies-covid-age-39/ So young and full of life, as he wheezed and coughed after climbing up three steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, PhineasC said: So young and full of life, as he wheezed and coughed after climbing up three steps. I was that guy once. If I got COVID in 2015 I bet it would be fatal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jonger said: I saw an article where a 39 year old died. His nickname was "Big Mike" Unbelievable how linked this is with obesity. https://www.nbc12.com/2021/07/30/i-should-have-gotten-damn-vaccine-father-5-dies-covid-age-39/ Nice little vaccine tidbit at the end. How fiancé and oldest child ran out to get it after they saw what happened to dad, who unsurprisingly given how sick he was, was unvaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: Nice little vaccine tidbit at the end. How fiancé and oldest child ran out to get it after they saw what happened to dad, who unsurprisingly given how sick he was, was unvaccinated. Thick skull will glance right over that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiwara79 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 7:50 AM, Baroclinic Zone said: Not true in the mRNA vaccines. Efficacy still in the 90% realm after 6mo. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2103916 https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/04/pfizer-covid-vaccine-91-effective-least-6-months Those papers are already outdated though. I'm talking about recent data from Israel showing that people who were vaxxed in January only have 16% efficacy against symptomatic Covid. If they were vaxxed in February, it was 47%; if it was in March, it was 67%, etc. You get the picture - it clearly shows waning immunity after a certain period of time. The good news is that protection against serious disease doesn't wane as rapidly; it is still about 80% for those vaxxed in January, but even that is a drop from 98% or whatever it was. I do think waning immunity in the elderly (since they got the shots first) will be an issue going into the fall and winter. the CDC has been very sketchy lately. Apart from their ridiculous new mask guidance from back in May (which I can write a novel about as to why that made no sense), they stopped tracking breakthrough infections, so we have to rely on data from Israel, Singapore, Iceland, UK, etc to understand how variants and time affect efficacy. They also didn't declare delta a variant of concern until a full month after the rest of the world did. Very odd. That's why I think some chamber of commerce lobbying money was involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Run this: https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm If you come in with a BMI over 30 your in danger Anything under 25 and the chance of complications are probably close to winning the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianW Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Crazy rock slide video from India. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedizel Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Im at southwick zoo. Place busy with 1/10 masking. The petting zoo looks like a super spreader lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said: Thick skull will glance right over that I hope your breakthrough infection is not a big deal, sincerely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, BrianW said: Crazy rock slide video from India. Holy f’ing shit. That one at the end that just annihilates the bridge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bch2014 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Golden hour in Zagreb. No outdoor masking here, masking indoors for employees of establishments but lots of chinstraps. Great to be overseas during the casedemic.. Just got to stay off Twitter. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Big Mike was a moron. Vegas with no sunscreen in July. Darwin wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Jonger said: Run this: https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm If you come in with a BMI over 30 your in danger Anything under 25 and the chance of complications are probably close to winning the lottery. BMI can be really flawed. Many fit and low fat athletes would come in as obese. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, weathafella said: BMI can be really flawed. Many fit and low fat athletes would come in as obese. Right. I have added substantial muscle mass to my body and find that BMI calculators are useless for me. I was 270 lbs. @ 6' 5" in 2015 I'm now 250 lbs. with about 25 lbs of more muscle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Jonger said: Virtually everyone I know who tested positive for COVID had a runny nose and a week of no taste or smell. They described it as a cold, but with a week long lack of those two senses. A big meh for the most part. Unless Delta lacks this profound effect on taste/smell, that would be the telltale between covid and cold. The latter affects those senses somewhat due to plugged nose/sinuses but no one I know has had one that came anywhere close to total taste/smell loss. My "summer" cold undoubtedly came from an all-day indoor meeting, masks on except for meals, on June 8. On 6/10 I had a wicked sore throat, next day a deep chest cough and congestion, and day 3 a loud hacking dry cough. By day 4 I was feeling pretty good but started into the 4-5 weeks of more frequent than usual dry cough that follows all my colds. That meeting was the first such even I'd attended since early March of 2020 - no coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, tamarack said: Unless Delta lacks this profound effect on taste/smell, that would be the telltale between covid and cold. The latter affects those senses somewhat due to plugged nose/sinuses but no one I know has had one that came anywhere close to total taste/smell loss. My "summer" cold undoubtedly came from an all-day indoor meeting, masks on except for meals, on June 8. On 6/10 I had a wicked sore throat, next day a deep chest cough and congestion, and day 3 a loud hacking dry cough. By day 4 I was feeling pretty good but started into the 4-5 weeks of more frequent than usual dry cough that follows all my colds. That meeting was the first such even I'd attended since early March of 2020 - no coincidence. I'm really hoping that more and more office work can shift to remote permanently. Between the advantages of reducing carbon emissions, less office buildings being needed and traffic.... these changes help out everyone. Let the people who have to drive to a physical location do so without being bogged down with traffic originating from people who don't need to be contributing to the congestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, Jonger said: Right. I have added substantial muscle mass to my body and find that BMI calculators are useless for me. I was 270 lbs. @ 6' 5" in 2015 I'm now 250 lbs. with about 25 lbs of more muscle. My BMI hovers around 30. I posted a pic of myself in OT and do I look like I'm borderline obese? I don't think so. Anybody with a high BMI number should definitely measure their waist and see how that checks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, tamarack said: Unless Delta lacks this profound effect on taste/smell, that would be the telltale between covid and cold. The latter affects those senses somewhat due to plugged nose/sinuses but no one I know has had one that came anywhere close to total taste/smell loss. My "summer" cold undoubtedly came from an all-day indoor meeting, masks on except for meals, on June 8. On 6/10 I had a wicked sore throat, next day a deep chest cough and congestion, and day 3 a loud hacking dry cough. By day 4 I was feeling pretty good but started into the 4-5 weeks of more frequent than usual dry cough that follows all my colds. That meeting was the first such even I'd attended since early March of 2020 - no coincidence. I did read that the loss of taste/smell seemed to be happening less frequently with delta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Anecdotal: I've never been a very big fan of the 'lost sense of smell and taste' metric as a definitive in this thing. While it is certainly true that a bout with this thing brings that with it... my entire life, every time I've had a headcold since my childhood, I've experienced at a minimum some attenuation of those senses, if not total, for some transience. Too wit: Rhino Virus, to which the head cold is attributed ... is in the caronavirus family - those in charge of disseminating information to the media, if perhaps the media itself, knew this all along - yes they f'ing did! But no - don't tell the masses. Just leverage lost senses angle - it's disgusting. So now ... for the next 50 years and 2.5 generations of zeitgeist morphology, whenever any someone thinks their food boring it's off to COVID cause and guess what? - be it direct or indirect connection, big pharma gets to make money. This thing is a cash-cow societal engine now - LOL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I haven't been on here in awhile, but my father has been sick and just passed away today. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sugarloaf1989 said: I haven't been on here in awhile, but my father has been sick and just passed away today. I'm sorry for your loss, my sympathy to you and your family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, Sugarloaf1989 said: I haven't been on here in awhile, but my father has been sick and just passed away today. My deepest condolences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, Sugarloaf1989 said: I haven't been on here in awhile, but my father has been sick and just passed away today. The memory of the man your father was Will remain enriched within you and all who loved him. In the generations to come that memory will be his greatest legacy. May you find peace. As always … 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, rclab said: The memory of the man your father was Will remain enriched within you and all who loved him. In the generations to come that memory will be his greatest legacy. May you find peace. As always … You have a gift for prose usually not seen on the Internet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, PhineasC said: You have a gift for prose usually not seen on the Internet. See: Tip Condolences @Sugarloaf1989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I’m sorry for your loss sugarloaf1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connecticut Appleman Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, weathafella said: I’m sorry for your loss sugarloaf1989. Condolences to you and your family. These days really suck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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