TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hoosier said: It's actual news articles that I have read from places like FL and MO. When it comes down to who I am going to believe, I'd probably lean toward them over you. No offense. Good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 30 and 40 year old people are not dumb. If they saw their friends all getting very ill from COVID they would rush out to get vaccinated ASAP. I hate that these obtuse, abstract metrics on the TV and Twitter are driving all of this. Makes it very easy for people who get scared to become decoupled from the actual reality on the ground. I think that's why I saw people who were spraying down Amazon boxes then be willing to hop on a packed plane or eat at a packed restaurant the very next day. It made no logical sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, PhineasC said: We have the data from the UK. Did 20 year olds die at a higher rate from Delta than the prior strains? Last I checked, deaths were down in all categories over there. Death isn't the end all be all. You can come in sicker but still survive especially when you're relatively young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Any kind of anecdotal stories and quotes in media publications without verifiable data to go along with it should be taken with a huge grain of salt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoosier said: Death isn't the end all be all. You can come in sicker but still survive especially when you're relatively young. OK, were they hospitalized with serious COVID at a higher rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, radarman said: Any kind of anecdotal stories and quotes in media publications without verifiable data to go along with it should be taken with a huge grain of salt. Remember Kawasaki syndrome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, PhineasC said: OK, were they hospitalized with serious COVID at a higher rate? I'm not sure if that data is publicly available, especially when trying to make comparisons over time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, PhineasC said: 30 and 40 year old people are not dumb. If they saw their friends all getting very ill from COVID they would rush out to get vaccinated ASAP. I hate that these obtuse, abstract metrics on the TV and Twitter are driving all of this. Makes it very easy for people who get scared to become decoupled from the actual reality on the ground. I think that's why I saw people who were spraying down Amazon boxes then be willing to hop on a packed plane or eat at a packed restaurant the very next day. It made no logical sense. I don't know any friends in my age range not vaccinated. Most follow science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said: I don't know any friends in my age range not vaccinated. Most follow science The science now says they are spreading COVID to people if they are not masked up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 hours ago, PhineasC said: Reinfections are pretty rare but maybe this has something to do with the other variants. Is it a pretty mild case now? I must not know many people because I can't believe how many of you guys know multiple people getting sick and dying from COVID. My family doesn't know of anyone who had serious COVID. And none of my employees or their families have had any issues either. Just lucky I guess. Mild right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, MJO812 said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I’m just leaving the gym , I saw baker on TV did Mass leave it optional as in “we highly recommend”’or mandatory for small business and masks thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: I’m just leaving the gym , I saw baker on TV did Mass leave it optional as in “we highly recommend”’or mandatory for small business and masks thanks in advance Optional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, DotRat_Wx said: Optional Thanks Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Here's a simple fact: Delta is a non story in heavily vaccinated states. Anyone not getting vaccinated is not doing their part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 states have 40% of covid cases in the past week. Texas (republican) Missouri (republican) and Florida (republican) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I wish my work would make up its mind about whether we’re traveling the week of 8/9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said: 3 states have 40% of covid cases in the past week. Texas (republican) Missouri (republican) and Florida (republican) What does this mean? Vermont and MA both have Republican governors. And I thought Texas was a purple state now. It's not entirely a red/blue issue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, SouthCoastMA said: What does this mean? Vermont and MA both have Republican governors. And I thought Texas was a purple state now. It's not entirely a red/blue issue Predominantly red/blue on its face. All of my unvaccinated friends and family are proud Republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said: Here's a simple fact: Delta is a non story in heavily vaccinated states. Anyone not getting vaccinated is not doing their part. If it's already a non-story, why does it matter if there are people in those states who are not vaccinated? They probably have natural immunity at this point. Forcing them to get vaccinated will set a terrible precedent and not make you any safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, NorEastermass128 said: Predominantly red/blue on its face. All of my unvaccinated friends and family are proud Republicans. Make sure you wear a mask around them. Per the science, you can spread Delta to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, SouthCoastMA said: What does this mean? Vermont and MA both have Republican governors. And I thought Texas was a purple state now. It's not entirely a red/blue issue He simply can't acknowledge that minorities and young people make up a large chunk of the unvaccinated. It's easier to just imagine that they are all Trump Boomers watching Fox News. Some people just can't handle much nuance. They need to keep their worldview simplistic to cope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, PhineasC said: If it's already a non-story, why does it matter if there are people in those states who are not vaccinated? They probably have natural immunity at this point. Forcing them to get vaccinated will set a terrible precedent and not make you any safer. It's moronic to call it a non story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, PhineasC said: He simply can't acknowledge that minorities and young people make up a large chunk of the unvaccinated. It's easier to just imagine that they are all Trump Boomers watching Fox News. Some people just can't handle much nuance. They need to keep their worldview simplistic to cope. Just look at a map of the country of the uptick in cases. It's basically obese, dumb low iq people, republican states, and minorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said: Here's a simple fact: Delta is a non story in heavily vaccinated states. Anyone not getting vaccinated is not doing their part. 1 minute ago, DotRat_Wx said: It's moronic to call it a non story Yikes. Take a breather, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bch2014 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 This is a pretty good thread on who’s not getting vaccinated. Generally speaking, the hardest hit states in the Deep South have both an anti-vaxx/Trumpy white population and a high black population. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, PhineasC said: Yikes. Take a breather, man. Good rebuttal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Brian5671 said: he might be now and is just trolling.... most would probably bet he's vaccinated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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