tamarack Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:22 PM, UMB WX said: deal with it.. cosgrove My brain runs fine on common sense. A skill thats critically lacking in Amerika Expand And everywhere else, though we have less excuse than most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:29 PM, UMB WX said: lol Expand Do you realize that even if every American was vaccinated, someone can just hop off a plane from Africa or Asia and bring a variant here? That's how they keep getting outbreaks in Australia. They are not all vaccinated, but they are shut down. It's coming in via travel and trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:30 PM, tamarack said: And everywhere else, though we have less excuse than most. Expand cults and wage/health insurance slavery is alive and well. Amerika. what a mess. down to maybeee a handful of states even worth a dam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:31 PM, PhineasC said: Do you realize that even if every American was vaccinated, someone can just hop off a plane from Africa or Asia and bring a variant here? That's how they keep getting outbreaks in Australia. They are not all vaccinated, but they are shut down. It's coming in via travel and trade. Expand you and tippy should Co-Author a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:14 PM, PhineasC said: The CDC mysteriously decided to stop tracking mild and moderate breakthrough cases back in May, so we have zero idea how much spread is coming from the vaccinated. Data from Israel and the UK says it is much higher than we seem to think in this country. Expand Because vast majority of breakthrough cases don't lead to hospitalization or death, the 2 biggest indicators of the severity of pandemic. Almost all of the hospitalizations/deaths are coming from unvaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:31 PM, PhineasC said: Do you realize that even if every American was vaccinated, someone can just hop off a plane from Africa or Asia and bring a variant here? That's how they keep getting outbreaks in Australia. They are not all vaccinated, but they are shut down. It's coming in via travel and trade. Expand And why we need to vaccinate as many people around the World as we can. The more vaccinated we are, the less likelihood there is for viral load, transmission, hospitalizations and deaths. The virus will become much more manageable than it currently is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:36 PM, Baroclinic Zone said: Because vast majority of breakthrough cases don't lead to hospitalization or death, the 2 biggest indicators of the severity of pandemic. Almost all of the hospitalizations/deaths are coming from unvaccinated. Expand But cases are used to drive restrictions, not hospitalizations and deaths. Ask your politicians to fix that instead of blaming the unvaccinated for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:36 PM, UMB WX said: you and tippy should Co-Author a book. Expand Yes, I realize words are hard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:36 PM, Baroclinic Zone said: Because vast majority of breakthrough cases don't lead to hospitalization or death, the 2 biggest indicators of the severity of pandemic. Almost all of the hospitalizations/deaths are coming from unvaccinated. Expand they dont care.. never will care. they just like to run their privileged freedom asses while diverting the blame on whoever they can get it to stick to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:41 PM, UMB WX said: they dont care.. never will care. they just like to run their privileged freedom asses while diverting the blame on whoever they can get it to stick to. Expand LOL Do you even know who the unvaccinated are? Only 28% of the black community is vaxxed. Privileged assholes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:25 PM, UMB WX said: im sure biden told them to stop tracking. Expand Biden cant find a napkin to wipe the drool off his chin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:43 PM, PhineasC said: LOL Do you even know who the unvaccinated are? Only 28% of the black community is vaxxed. Privileged assholes! Expand lol On 8/5/2021 at 3:43 PM, WhitinsvilleWX said: Biden cant find a napkin to wipe the drool off his chin. Expand 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:38 PM, Baroclinic Zone said: And why we need to vaccinate as many people around the World as we can. The more vaccinated we are, the less likelihood there is for viral load, transmission, hospitalizations and deaths. The virus will become much more manageable than it currently is. Expand Older study, but just to play devil's advocate, imperfect vaccines can possibly help spread more severe mutations... https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:57 PM, dendrite said: Older study, but just to play devil's advocate, imperfect vaccines can possibly help spread more severe mutations... https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198 Expand It's so weird that people believe this crap that variants are created by the unvaccinated alone. It doesn't even make sense. The viruses are adapting to evade immunity, period. Vaccine-induced immunity isn't going to be any better in this regard than natural immunity (there is growing evidence that natural immunity is better). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:39 PM, PhineasC said: But cases are used to drive restrictions, not hospitalizations and deaths. Ask your politicians to fix that instead of blaming the unvaccinated for this. Expand And you're uncomfortable with that. I can see why they do it though. IMO, Public policy should be ahead of the curve such that things don't get out of control again and I do blame the willfully unvaccinated for where we are currently in the US as a whole. I'm fine with the current state of things where I live and in my daily routine/business. If I'm asked to toss on a mask by the MA Governor again while out and about at a store, restaurant, so be it. It's brief and not a huge deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:01 PM, PhineasC said: It's so weird that people believe this crap that variants are created by the unvaccinated alone. It doesn't even make sense. The viruses are adapting to evade immunity, period. Vaccine-induced immunity isn't going to be any better in this regard than natural immunity (there is growing evidence that natural immunity is better). Expand always the victim. I haven't heard a single person blaming the unvaccinated for where we are at. Y'all are so fragile for big bad freedom fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:01 PM, PhineasC said: It's so weird that people believe this crap that variants are created by the unvaccinated alone. It doesn't even make sense. The viruses are adapting to evade immunity, period. Vaccine-induced immunity isn't going to be any better in this regard than natural immunity (there is growing evidence that natural immunity is better). Expand Who said that? Virus mutate all the time. It's the amount of virus around that the issue. Less virus, less chance of mutation and geeater chance we get the virus under control and manageable, which we are no where near. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:04 PM, UMB WX said: always the victim. I haven't heard a single person blaming the unvaccinated for where we are at. Y'all are so fragile for big bad freedom fighters. Expand LOL Have you not even read this thread? Brain damage, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Imperfect immune systems can do the same - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:01 PM, PhineasC said: It's so weird that people believe this crap that variants are created by the unvaccinated alone. It doesn't even make sense. The viruses are adapting to evade immunity, period. Vaccine-induced immunity isn't going to be any better in this regard than natural immunity (there is growing evidence that natural immunity is better). Expand I'll agree about the natural immunity...but there's an obvious risk in getting there. i.e. you need to survive it without significant damage from the virus. If I had gotten it and recovered I wouldn't feel the need to be vaccinated. But I preferred to take my chances with the vax versus actual COVID. As long as the vaccines prevent severe disease we should just be rolling on ahead because the virus itself isn't going anywhere now. Not to get all Drago, but if people don't get it and die, they die. We're overpopulated anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:05 PM, PhineasC said: LOL Have you not even read this thread? Brain damage, for sure. Expand you're a clown show bro. tooo bad you can't bozo the clown us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correnjim1 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:55 PM, UMB WX said: lol Expand just can't kick that TDS....it's worse then Covid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I love the people that will run out and pay to get a fake vaccination card but can walk down the street to the local Pharmacy, Clinic, etc and get a free shot or even a small stipend for receiving it. Mind-boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:04 PM, UMB WX said: always the victim. I haven't heard a single person blaming the unvaccinated for where we are at. Y'all are so fragile for big bad freedom fighters. Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:10 PM, correnjim1 said: just can't kick that TDS....it's worse then Covid Expand I didn't kick start anything. but ok, jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:04 PM, UMB WX said: always the victim. I haven't heard a single person blaming the unvaccinated for where we are at. Y'all are so fragile for big bad freedom fighters. Expand I am. I have no issue saying that. They are by-in-large the major culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:12 PM, MaineJayhawk said: Expand other than a talking point of phins. i have never placed or have heard anybody place blame on the unvaxxed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:16 PM, UMB WX said: other than a talking point of phins. i have never placed or have heard anybody place blame on the unvaxxed Expand Oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 My biological hypothesis about evolution, when including infectious diseases ...is that children cull the herd of weaker adults - Their imperfect little still developing immune systems mutate something going around the community ...and then that more pernicious strain then takes out the weaker adults so that the adults can't have babies with inheritable/congenital weaker immune systems. So ...the next war, they should put all the babies on the front line and watch the opposing army all drop dead - the ultimate biological weapon. BABIES ... heh. It's just that every single one of my friends ...all of them ... said they didn't know what it was like to be feebled by illness until they put their kids through day-care! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:18 PM, MaineJayhawk said: Oops Expand doesn't count lol. he said "by-in-large the major culprit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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