UnitedWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 hours ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Two ladies this morning told me they were putting their memberships on hold if we require masks . Before you laugh, try working out at 100% with a mask on . This studio barely survived the last year , so I’m sure baker will over-react , it’s just so easy to say masks are required (regardless of it having little effect in high vax states) The states that would benefit from this won’t follow the CDC anyway , so it’s sorta ...toothless for effect We went through this last summer with our electrical business. Try telling the guys they have to wear a mask, working in the sun on a 95 degree day. NOT going to happen. There were some...interesting conversations with some customers to say the least. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: This is heading for massive civil division across the western world. Have you seen the size of some of the anti-lockdown protest in Europe? Probably not, because it's not covered in whats called the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 My friend who works in another precinct has covid for the 2nd time. Not vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, MJO812 said: My friend who works in another precinct has covid for the 2nd time. Not vaccinated. Two positive tests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone-68 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Not to divert the topic too much but what the heck is going on with Bob Odenkirk (Better Call Saul)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, PhineasC said: Two positive tests? He had covid and was in the hospital last March for a week and then he just tested positive again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, MJO812 said: He had covid and was in the hospital last March for a week and then he just tested positive again. Reinfections are pretty rare but maybe this has something to do with the other variants. Is it a pretty mild case now? I must not know many people because I can't believe how many of you guys know multiple people getting sick and dying from COVID. My family doesn't know of anyone who had serious COVID. And none of my employees or their families have had any issues either. Just lucky I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, MJO812 said: He had covid and was in the hospital last March for a week and then he just tested positive again. From what my Dr. tells me, you can be vaxxed and test positive if exposed. She says that's normal and it works the same with other illnesses. Doesn't mean you're sick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, UnitedWx said: From what my Dr. tells me, you can be vaxxed and test positive if exposed. She says that's normal and it works the same with other illnesses. Doesn't mean you're sick. But apparently with Delta you can still spread it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, PhineasC said: It could be. Obviously long-term studies that attempt to rule out the many conflating factors are needed. All I keep seeing are anecdotes from a "friend of a friend" type deal referring to very generic symptoms that can also be caused by excessive stress, anxiety, etc. I think it's kind of telling that this seems to mostly affect the same demographics that are hardest hit by anxiety disorders and depression (females 30-50 years of age). That doesn't seem to make sense given that COVID actually hits a totally different demographic (older men) hardest, right? Here's my "friend of a friend" anecdote. It's our pastor's cousin, also a pastor but in the south. This fellow was on a ventilator 2+ week then another 3 in hospital and about the same in rehab. When he finally returned home he could only take 2-3 steps before having to stop and catch his breath. Last I heard, perhaps 6 weeks after homecoming, was that he was walking up to 200 feet without stopping and has resumed some pastoral duty. Had comorbidity - cancer survivor (don't know which kind) - and is late 50s. Doesn't seem to fit depression or anxiety only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, tamarack said: Here's my "friend of a friend" anecdote. It's our pastor's cousin, also a pastor but in the south. This fellow was on a ventilator 2+ week then another 3 in hospital and about the same in rehab. When he finally returned home he could only take 2-3 steps before having to stop and catch his breath. Last I heard, perhaps 6 weeks after homecoming, was that he was walking up to 200 feet without stopping and has resumed some pastoral duty. Had comorbidity - cancer survivor (don't know which kind) - and is late 50s. Doesn't seem to fit depression or anxiety only. Seems that if you don’t get better within 7 days of symptoms , that is when you go down hill rather quickly (hospitalization) and that is when folks have a higher chance to deal with the real lasting damage That results to various organs ..the long haulers . The minority that require hospitalization ...many accounts seem to be of going thru hell .. If you develop that sort of immune overreaction (can’t recall the word for it) that is when your enter the deep trouble and your life is in danger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, tamarack said: Here's my "friend of a friend" anecdote. It's our pastor's cousin, also a pastor but in the south. This fellow was on a ventilator 2+ week then another 3 in hospital and about the same in rehab. When he finally returned home he could only take 2-3 steps before having to stop and catch his breath. Last I heard, perhaps 6 weeks after homecoming, was that he was walking up to 200 feet without stopping and has resumed some pastoral duty. Had comorbidity - cancer survivor (don't know which kind) - and is late 50s. Doesn't seem to fit depression or anxiety only. I know a guy in his 60s who had very bad antibiotic-resistant pneumonia that lingered and caused issues with his lung capacity and stamina for a while. So it can definitely happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, White Rain said: It seems like everyone who winds up on a ventilator has lasting impacts. I think most older people who are ventilated end up dying soon even if they survive the process. The stats were pretty sobering last time I saw them. That’s what I mean when I say we need some studies to really parse out this long COVID stuff from other factors such as 2 weeks on a ventilator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I think we can all agree that this virus just plain sucks. That’s all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Lava Rock said: That's not stopping Maine CDC from requiring masks again in public places, effective today. I don't know if it'll be statewide or not, but details to come. Total over reaction. The f in CDC quoted an unpublished non peer reviewed article with a non approved vaccine as the basis. I mean WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Over the last 48 hours, I have discovered that vaccinated people are incredibly hostile towards and suspicious of the idea that they could be spreading the virus around. It’s been kind of interesting how fast “follow the science” flies out the window when the information is not convenient. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, SouthCoastMA said: I believe the long-term studies will prove it is real. There's plenty of evidence and a ton of people struggling because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 If you have viral particulate identifiable through seralogic differentiation, you are positive. Use in content among various media ? doesn't mean shit. Media preys on the 96th % tile nimrod to sell headlines. POSITIVE = cha-ching. Mask = cha-ching via vitriol. They're actually socially engineering you by sowing the seed for the 2ndary and tertiary fall-out sociological flowery headlines. They aren't causing/ed of the pandemic, but they have 0 compunctions of exploiting it with 0 morality. When eventually evolution kicks in and people begin to sense at an instinctive level how none of this will work, and start reclaiming life by simply turning away ... zero headlines. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just listened to Dr. Shah (Maine CDC) and the mask recommendation for vaccinated people at indoor public places has been applied to York and Piscataquis Counties, the 2nd most and the least populous of Maine's 16. Looking at the Johns Hopkins data - dated 10:30 AM today but obviously thru yesterday, here are the numbers for those 2 counties for July 21-27: York: 95 total cases, population 204k, 47/100k (Daily 6.7) Piscataquis: 8 total cases (5 on 7/22), population ~16,700, 48/100k (Daily 6.8) That 7-day period is somewhat higher than the previous 7 days. Dr. Shah added that the state's testing was showing a positivity rate of 1.5% and that daily tests were 221/100k or about 2,960 total daily tests. That works out to 44-45 new cases daily. 62% of Maine's total population is fully vaccinated, more have had a first dose of Pfizer/Moderna, and while I don't have the proportion of Mainers <12 years old, I'd guess that 75%+ of eligible people are fully vaxxed. Maybe I'm being ignorant, but those numbers don't seem nearly high enough for the actions taken, especially with his (unsurprising) note that more counties could be added as warranted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, UnitedWx said: From what my Dr. tells me, you can be vaxxed and test positive if exposed. She says that's normal and it works the same with other illnesses. Doesn't mean you're sick. Time for a new doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 @powderfreak CNN is really pimping out VT as the most vaccinated state. Everybody there is apparently ballroom dancing and drinking beer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rjay said: Time for a new doctor. What is incorrect about what he posted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 51 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: would be interesting to see how this would turn out had one of the spouses not been vaxed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: would be interesting to see how this would turn out had one of the spouses not been vaxed Well, we know if they had been fine and recovered with no issues, we never would have heard about it. Just like a Yelp review, you only ever hear about the terrible COVID outcomes, not the hundreds of millions of mild cases with no real complications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 RIP Dusty Hill https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/zz-top-bassist-dusty-hill-dead-obit-1203694/ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 If they use the 50/100k metric for cases to mask up, and don't take the hospital load and deaths into account, some jurisdictions will have people masked indefinitely. Doesnt look like Ned and Cuomo are going to do it. I dont think Baker will either, but he'll be under tremendous pressure. I'm shocked Cambridge hasn't done it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, mreaves said: RIP Dusty Hill https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/zz-top-bassist-dusty-hill-dead-obit-1203694/ Wow, he went downhill quick. I know he wasn't on the current tour but they said he was "recovering". They put out some great tunes over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, PhineasC said: What is incorrect about what he posted? @Rjay left a weenie and then ran away, I guess? Hope someone tells him about breakthrough infections and the fact that the vaccinated can still spread the virus... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, WhitinsvilleWX said: If they use the 50/100k metric for cases to mask up, and don't take the hospital load and deaths into account, some jurisdictions will have people masked indefinitely. Doesnt look like Ned and Cuomo are going to do it. I dont think Baker will either, but he'll be under tremendous pressure. I'm shocked Cambridge hasn't done it yet Definitely more resistance to this so far than I expected, which is good. The vaccinated are the ones who needed to be pushing back on this the most, and that seems to be happening to a good degree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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