Baroclinic Zone Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, PhineasC said: Wait, “hospitals are overwhelmed” again? Can you read? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, MJO812 said: Down south It’s the indoors season down there. The hospitals are fine. If you guys keep believing the fear porn and begging mommy government to come save you this is going to keep happening… not sure how to make that more clear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Can you read? I think so. So making the vaxxed wear masks will help save the healthcare system somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 This article on breakthroughs breaks it down in a simple way that is easy to understand https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/07/anatomy-of-a-vaccine-breakthrough/619562/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 https://www.foxnews.com/health/florida-leads-us-covid-19-cases-hospitalizations-surge Florida is a mess with hospitilizations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, Hoosier said: This article on breakthroughs breaks it down in a simple way that is easy to understand https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/07/anatomy-of-a-vaccine-breakthrough/619562/ You guys are scared shitless your vaccines are failing, aren’t you? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: not sure I agree. If 16 months isn't enough time then how long is? I dunno. Your guess is as good as mine. They may never admit that useless mitigation and wrecking the economy was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, Baroclinic Zone said: https://www.foxnews.com/health/florida-leads-us-covid-19-cases-hospitalizations-surge Florida is a mess with hospitilizations It’s respiratory disease season down there now. Basically the reverse of New England. Happens every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Not sure how reliable Worldometers is, but I’ve watched the serious/critical numbers for a while now. In January, we were up to 33,000+. Last month we got down to 3,300. Now, we’re back up to 8,400 and rising quickly. Who knows what this means in the long run. Instead of more dead, maybe just more chronically ill people to care for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, PhineasC said: I think so. So making the vaxxed wear masks will help save the healthcare system somehow? How do you parse the vaccinated from unvaccinated? Personally I'd rather force those unvaccinated to wear them and us vaccinated folks not have to but we apparently can't have nice things in this Country, so the CDC changes guidance that States may follow to re-enact mask mandates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: https://www.foxnews.com/health/florida-leads-us-covid-19-cases-hospitalizations-surge Florida is a mess with hospitilizations Makes sense given the demographics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, PhineasC said: It’s respiratory disease season down there now. Basically the reverse of New England. Happens every year. No it does not to this degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedizel Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: How do you parse the vaccinated from unvaccinated? Personally I'd rather force those unvaccinated to wear them and us vaccinated folks not have to but we apparently can't have nice things in this Country, so the CDC changes guidance that States may follow to re-enact mask mandates. Ya cause they dont trust the unvaxx to do the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: No it does not to this degree. You guys have literally been posting stories like this and predicting massive issues in FL since March 2020. Amazing the narrative is still being pushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, PhineasC said: You guys have literally been posting stories like this and predicting massive issues in FL since March 2020. Amazing the narrative is still being pushed. Yeah I'm a bit surprised too-most hospital systems will not be overwhelmed at this point given the amt of people (half the country on average) have a vaxx that prevents serious illness. We need to stop worrying about daily case counts at this point.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: How do you parse the vaccinated from unvaccinated? Personally I'd rather force those unvaccinated to wear them and us vaccinated folks not have to but we apparently can't have nice things in this Country, so the CDC changes guidance that States may follow to re-enact mask mandates. I guess just living freely based on personal choice isn’t one of the options? Someone has to be forced to do something by big momma government no matter what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, PhineasC said: You guys have literally been posting stories like this and predicting massive issues in FL since March 2020. Amazing the narrative is still being pushed. Who are "you guys"? Pick any State with low vaccination rates and the story is the same right now. Hospitalizations are on the rise again which taxes/stresses the health care system. You dispute the data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, PhineasC said: You guys are scared shitless your vaccines are failing, aren’t you? Vaccines are working fine. Something like 98% of hospitalizations are un vaxxed people-that tells you all you need to know.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, PhineasC said: I guess just living freely based on personal choice isn’t one of the options? Someone has to be forced to do something by big momma government no matter what? That's how public health safety works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 https://www.wesh.com/article/health-first-covid-19-postpone-elective-surgeries/37135575 https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/8-hospitals-postponing-elective-procedures-amid-covid-19-resurgence.html Hospitals cancelling scheduled elective surgeries again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: https://www.wesh.com/article/health-first-covid-19-postpone-elective-surgeries/37135575 https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/8-hospitals-postponing-elective-procedures-amid-covid-19-resurgence.html Hospitals cancelling scheduled elective surgeries again. that 2nd link appears to all be from last winter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Shore Slop Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: https://www.wesh.com/article/health-first-covid-19-postpone-elective-surgeries/37135575 https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/8-hospitals-postponing-elective-procedures-amid-covid-19-resurgence.html Hospitals cancelling scheduled elective surgeries again. I have a relative that manages the Disaster Medicine unit at a really well known hospital. Even in this area the hospitals are way understaffed and overburdened. Just the other day she told us on average there are 2-3 patients in the hallway (ICU). It took 8 weeks for me to get date for a procedure tomorrow. 3 years ago I had the same procedure done 4 days after seeing the surgeon. Hospitals are very busy and understaffed. Lots of employees called it quits after the first 2 rounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Shore Slop Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, radarman said: that 2nd link appears to all be from last winter 106 hospitals postponing elective procedures amid the COVID-19 resurgence Alia Paavola - Updated Tuesday, June 1st, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, radarman said: that 2nd link appears to all be from last winter The second link is old. The first one, if you actually read the blurb, says they are suspended to august 15th IN CASE beds are needed. There's no crisis at his point. it's "out of an abundance of caution" as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 We should have a gtg F2F soon while we can.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, weathafella said: We should have a gtg F2F soon while we can.... doubt we see capacity restrictions to restaurants at this point-they've suffered enough. Restrictions just drive people into private homes where it spreads easier (see CA last winter-nothing open but highest covid rates in the country) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, radarman said: that 2nd link appears to all be from last winter My bad if that's the case. This is what I saw. Quote 106 hospitals postponing elective procedures amid the COVID-19 resurgence Alia Paavola - Updated Tuesday, June 1st, 2021 Print | Email Some other places. https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2021/07/26/covid-cases-are-surging/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/utah-hospitals-swell-with-unvaccinated-covid-19-patients-2021-07-27/ https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/07/26/health-first-postponing-some-surgeries-to-free-up-hospital-beds-amid-surge-in-covid-19-cases/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: doubt we see capacity restrictions to restaurants at this point-they've suffered enough. Restrictions just drive people into private homes where it spreads easier (see CA last winter-nothing open but highest covid rates in the country) Capacity restrictions wont come back. Politicians have no appetite for tat. Mask mandates are easy and it something they can do that's visible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, weathafella said: We should have a gtg F2F soon while we can.... W just had an ASEMATT gtg a couple weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, South Shore Slop said: I have a relative that manages the Disaster Medicine unit at a really well known hospital. Even in this area the hospitals are way understaffed and overburdened. Just the other day she told us on average there are 2-3 patients in the hallway (ICU). It took 8 weeks for me to get date for a procedure tomorrow. 3 years ago I had the same procedure done 4 days after seeing the surgeon. Hospitals are very busy and understaffed. Lots of employees called it quits after the first 2 rounds. I presume there was quite a lot of backlog from the year plus that everything was on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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