Ginx snewx Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 7:49 PM, DotRat_Wx said: Nearly everything is better electric. I wonder how much earlier we would have had electric cars without oil lobbying. I LOVE my friends Tesla Expand What do you think powers the electricity generated to run your friends Tesla. Look at California and ask yourself what will happen when the reusable grid fails. Also are exchanging one problem for another. Batteries use rare earth metals and are toxic when disposed. The best path forward uses a combo of energy with fossil backup always available. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 11:37 PM, Ginx snewx said: What do you think powers the electricity generated to run your friends Tesla. Look at California and ask yourself what will happen when the reusable grid fails. Also are exchanging one problem for another. Batteries use rare earth metals and are toxic when disposed. The best path forward uses a combo of energy with fossil backup always available. Expand Yeah. A lot of trade offs. You can make clean electricity but the grid can have problems. The batteries need to be recycled and that is tricky to do right. Lots of interesting solutions out there but most are in their infancy. Baby steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 11:37 PM, Ginx snewx said: What do you think powers the electricity generated to run your friends Tesla. Look at California and ask yourself what will happen when the reusable grid fails. Also are exchanging one problem for another. Batteries use rare earth metals and are toxic when disposed. The best path forward uses a combo of energy with fossil backup always available. Expand Were going towards natural gas, solar, and wind. Those are much more responsible fuels. We will make a big dent in global warming if we can update the grid to handle electric vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 People need to be less scared of nuclear. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 12:42 AM, DotRat_Wx said: Were going towards natural gas, solar, and wind. Those are much more responsible fuels. We will make a big dent in global warming if we can update the grid to handle electric vehicles. Expand The current power grid has fairly high loss rates. A large amount of the electricity we generate is lost in transit from the source to the destination. Very wasteful. Fixing that requires a large state and local investment and a lot of NIMBY issues in posh neighborhoods with ancient infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 12:42 AM, DotRat_Wx said: Were going towards natural gas, solar, and wind. Those are much more responsible fuels. We will make a big dent in global warming if we can update the grid to handle electric vehicles. Expand Nuclear is what we need. Gas and oil go hand in hand. We alone won't make a dent sorry just isn't true. We reduced our Carbon output CO2 emissions in 2019 were the lowest they have been since 1992. Per capita emissions were lower in 2019 than they’ve been at any time since at least 1950 Went through a global shutdown yet CO2 still rose. The climate debate is for another forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Those Buick GNs are one of the most impressive cars made given the engine metrics. One of the few times I was literally pinned to the seat in a car as it accelerated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 9:00 PM, NorEastermass128 said: Sox Yanks canceled tonight due to Covid. Expand More proof Covid originated with bats. 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedizel Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 1:00 AM, PhineasC said: The current power grid has fairly high loss rates. A large amount of the electricity we generate is lost in transit from the source to the destination. Very wasteful. Fixing that requires a large state and local investment and a lot of NIMBY issues in posh neighborhoods with ancient infrastructure. Expand Imagine the security threat thoe. A nation dependant on electricity. Power grid goes down for a month. We do it with gas but least we have reserves. How would reserves work with electricity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 7:49 PM, DotRat_Wx said: Nearly everything is better electric. I wonder how much earlier we would have had electric cars without oil lobbying. I LOVE my friends Tesla Expand The funny thing is, electric cars have been around since the 1930's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Modfan2 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 11:11 PM, Hoosier said: Coming next to Florida. No, just kidding. Interesting to compare 2 very populated states -- Florida and Texas. Both in the southern US, but Florida has been seeing a much more dramatic increase in cases. Florida is actually running a bit ahead of Texas in terms of % vaccinated. Not sure what's going on. Perhaps population density explains it a little as Texas is more spread out, but probably some other factors playing a bigger role. Expand Seasonality, we spiked at the same time last year. People in the southern states tend to spend more time indoors June-Sept , similar to Nov-Mar up north. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 9:06 PM, tamarack said: I'd guess a decade later if one includes construction and logging equipment but who knows. And the changeover has to be matched by a stronger grid; the big heatwave out west had CA telling people not to drive their EVs unless absolutely necessary. Expand Working in the electric industry, that's what we call the dirty little secret no one wants to talk about. The grid in many areas isn't anywhere near capable of even 60 percent electric and the improvements will take decades in many areas. There's also the problem of pollution and enviro issued due to manufacture and use of an E.V. People really should look this up before pushing EV too much yet. I'd love a new VW electric cargo bus for my business...but don't want one personally at least at this point. For half the people I know electric is a fasion statement moreso than an environmental issue unfortunately. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 For me it would be more of a $$$ issue. Would it save me money/time? Not there yet. But closer. The grid is a big issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 10:58 AM, HoarfrostHubb said: For me it would be more of a $$$ issue. Would it save me money/time? Not there yet. But closer. The grid is a big issue. Expand Was working on turning my property into a solar farm. Many of the solar farms all ready to go can't connect to the grid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 3:24 AM, HIPPYVALLEY said: The funny thing is, electric cars have been around since the 1930's. Expand They've been around longer than that. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15378765/worth-the-watt-a-brief-history-of-the-electric-car-1830-to-present/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 1:10 AM, losetoa6 said: That's the extremely low rpm max torque that does that and gave it the mid 4 sec 0-60 times in 86-87 '. Way Ahead of it's time. A corvette beater in 87 ' Expand A Corvette beater by far at that time! That o to 60 is in Hellcat territory. BTW if any of you like cars, try a Hellcat even if not a Mopar fan. Insane! Its almost impossible to lift your head off the head rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernovice Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 She gone boys, this is what transitory looks like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 7:49 PM, DotRat_Wx said: Nearly everything is better electric. I wonder how much earlier we would have had electric cars without oil lobbying. I LOVE my friends Tesla Expand At least someone likes them. I have a few customers with them. I just can't get over the lack of style...they look like a large chevy cavalier, and so much crappy plastic. Plus quite a number of quality/reliability issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 1:09 AM, kdxken said: More proof Covid originated with bats. Expand well it certainly didn't originate with the Yankees' bats..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 12:52 PM, Supernovice said: She gone boys, this is what transitory looks like: Expand Makes me happy but we did just find out from a CEO of local Lumber Company that the price of I-joists is going up next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 12:57 PM, UnitedWx said: At least someone likes them. I have a few customers with them. I just can't get over the lack of style...they look like a large chevy cavalier, and so much crappy plastic. Plus quite a number of quality/reliability issues. Expand Back in the day the Cavalier was a good-looking ride. We bought a wagon in 1983, 1st year with the EFI 2.0 liter and 5-speed, and drove it nearly 150k before the unibody frame rusted out. The engine never skipped a beat, we got 32-34 mpg and with studded snows on the front that rig had the best traction of any 2WD I've driven. The road to our back settlement home in Fort Kent climbed about 450' from town and more than half of that was in the final half mile, nearly 10% grade. Never had an issue getting home and it snows a bit there. Edit: Have not bought a new car since. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 the other thing is that the amount of the carbon footprint due to cars by Humanity et al I don't think is really the bigger problem. It's power generation - maybe that has changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I just bought a 2016 Honda CRV SE edition fully loaded for 22k. 31k miles 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 10:57 PM, MJO812 said: I just bought a 2016 Honda CRV SE edition fully loaded for 22k. 31k miles Expand Just starting to get broken in at 31k miles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 10:57 PM, MJO812 said: I just bought a 2016 Honda CRV SE edition fully loaded for 22k. 31k miles Expand Big Honda fan here. I drive a Honda Pilot with 180,000 miles on it. Thing is in great shape. The last one I had was an earlier model Honda Pilot and made it to 225,000 miles. Strong SUV’s and those Honda engines go forever. Stuff’s easy to fix too. None of the overly expensive repairs or going to a specialty shop like when I had a Volvo or WV. Some brands you just bring to any mechanic and they have the parts and can fix it confidently, faster, and cheaper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I know there are quite a few old school rap fans here. Sad to say you all lost Just a Friend https://www.google.com/amp/s/pitchfork.com/news/biz-markie-has-died-at-57/amp/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 1:17 AM, powderfreak said: Big Honda fan here. I drive a Honda Pilot with 180,000 miles on it. Thing is in great shape. The last one I had was an earlier model Honda Pilot and made it to 225,000 miles. Strong SUV’s and those Honda engines go forever. Stuff’s easy to fix too. None of the overly expensive repairs or going to a specialty shop like when I had a Volvo or WV. Some brands you just bring to any mechanic and they have the parts and can fix it confidently, faster, and cheaper. Expand We’ve leased 5 CV-Vs and 2 Accords. I’m due for replacing the Accord but I’m seriously considering buying it for the remaining $14k and then sell for 20+. Very low mileage 2018. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 1:18 AM, mreaves said: I know there are quite a few old school rap fans here. Sad to say you all lost Just a Friend https://www.google.com/amp/s/pitchfork.com/news/biz-markie-has-died-at-57/amp/ Expand Oh baby you got what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 1:17 AM, powderfreak said: Big Honda fan here. I drive a Honda Pilot with 180,000 miles on it. Thing is in great shape. The last one I had was an earlier model Honda Pilot and made it to 225,000 miles. Strong SUV’s and those Honda engines go forever. Stuff’s easy to fix too. None of the overly expensive repairs or going to a specialty shop like when I had a Volvo or WV. Some brands you just bring to any mechanic and they have the parts and can fix it confidently, faster, and cheaper. Expand A friend of mine always gets the Honda Ridgeline and drives it 300,000 miles before he gets a new one, he puts on a ton of miles every year 50,000+ and the thing runs like new at 300k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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