weatherwiz Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 A warm front is expected to move west-east across southern New England through the day Tuesday. While isolated showers and thunderstorms are possible along/just behind the warm front, a better chance for thunderstorms exists Wednesday ahead of a pre-frontal trough/low-level wind shift. Combination of temperatures well into the 80's to even lower 90's away from the shoreline and dewpoints into the lower-to-near mid-60's will contribute to a modestly unstable atmosphere with mixed-layer CAPE on order of 1500 J/KG. While not terrible strong, winds aloft are enough to warrant the likelihood for convection to develop and become organized with 35-45 knot mid-level jet. There is a wildcard that could result in a more significant severe weather threat and that is a plume of elevated mixed-layer air. Forecast guidance indicates a piece of EML air may break from the central Plains and move into our region, however, the timing of this feature looks to be Wednesday morning/early afternoon before moving into the Atlantic. This would be timed well before the greatest ingredients arrive. Right now, the greatest chance for scattered-to-numerous thunderstorms looks to be NY/PA/western New England, however, depending on timing this could certainly extend farther east. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 Could see a tornado or two across upstate NY into northern New England 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 5% tor probs up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 The main forecast concern is the potential for a few strong to severe t-storms in the afternoon in the interior. Mid level shortwave will be moving across Gt Lakes with a pre-frontal trough moving into SNE in the afternoon which will be a focus for convection. Decent instability develops in the interior with CAPES 1000-1500 J/kg and increasing wind field results in deep layer shear 30-35 kt supporting storm organization and potential severe weather. CAMs are showing some broken line segments moving into interior SNE during afternoon with damaging wind being the main threat. However, forecast soundings also show decent turning in the lowest 3km in the CT valley with effective SRH 100-200 m2/s2, aided by backed low level flow and there is favorable 0-3km CAPE, so can't rule out an isolated tornado with any discrete storms. Will continue to monitor with later forecasts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Chase day? Got tomorrow off hmmm.. Actually not looking bad for our area 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Meh. Congrats NY and NNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Meh. Congrats NY and NNE. There looks to be a window of opportunity from northeast MA into northern CT perhaps for some rapid growing convection late afternoon right along what appears to be a theta-e ridge/higher instability axis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Could use some rain, But can do without the TOR's, High winds and hail as still getting the garden in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 NAM NEST has a long-tracked superell from E NY to the NH coast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone-68 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just give me a nice light show and I’m happy. It’s only May and the marine influence usually kills the storms before they get here anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 What potential is this to go enhanced or moderate any place in New England? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said: What potential is this to go enhanced or moderate any place in New England? I don't think we see a moderate risk with this...I don't think the aerial coverage will be great enough and would like to see stronger instability and a bit stronger shear. It is possible to see an area of enhanced added if enough confidences increases in a narrow swath for enhanced wind damage potential. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said: What potential is this to go enhanced or moderate any place in New England? I don’t think mod is on the table—that’s quite hard to do around here. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a limited enh zone though in upstate NY or NNE on D1 though. It looks like a decent severe setup especially up there. Down here in CT I agree with Wiz that there’s a relatively brief window for severe. Would like to see a discrete cell or two to maximize potential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 39 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: NAM NEST has a long-tracked superell from E NY to the NH coast Mm hm... takes an EF4 tornado vortex up the western side of Mt Monadnock, over the bald rocky summit, and right down the other side, too - ...pretty cool, huh - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: I don’t think mod is on the table—that’s quite hard to do around here. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a limited enh zone though in upstate NY or NNE on D1 though. It looks like a decent severe setup especially up there. Down here in CT I agree with Wiz that there’s a relatively brief window for severe. Would like to see a discrete cell or two to maximize potential. Kind of a good thing in this setup not to be overpowering with lift/forcing. Should help to keep activity more discrete but I'm sure we'll see a cluster or two evolve and that's where any enhanced would be possible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, Typhoon Tip said: Mm hm... takes an EF4 tornado vortex up the western side of Mt Monadnock, over the bald rocky summit, and right down the other side, too - ...pretty cool, huh - The more I look at this the more I become intrigued across central MA and more specifically around ORH County. Actually a pretty good overlap there of strong llvl CAPE and shear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Kidding... of course - But the gist of the mid week 'potential' is a specter that's been looming on the charts for a week now actually - I remember commenting on this literally last Wednesday. It's just interesting that these open wave scenarios seem like they are better performers - so we'll see. Heh, just think, Wiz' ... you may actually get a severe event in May like you seem to think you should, IN MAY lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just give us some rain and we're stoked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Kidding... of course - But the gist of the mid week 'potential' is a specter that's been looming on the charts for a week now actually - I remember commenting on this literally last Wednesday. It's just interesting that these open wave scenarios seem like they are better performers - so we'll see. Heh, just think, Wiz' ... you may actually get a severe event in May like you seem to think you should, IN MAY lol The pattern wants to throw EML's at s over the next few weeks but I think the jet structure/placement is killing us. The jet looks to get shot pretty far northward so the EML plumes riding along the southern edge of the jet move into Canada. and going back to the May thread...there are also emerging signals for things to turn very warm to hot rather quickly after this miserable weekend. 582dm heights trying to poke into our region second half of next week 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Gonna need things to speed up a few hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan2 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 hours ago, weatherwiz said: There looks to be a window of opportunity from northeast MA into northern CT perhaps for some rapid growing convection late afternoon right along what appears to be a theta-e ridge/higher instability axis. Some nice Hills with awest view on Rt 31 in Charlton near the old Dresser Hill Ice cream stand, or further south in Dudley Ma overlooking NE CT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Surprised that @weatherwiz isn't tossing the on the afternoon SPC 1730z OTLK ...Central and Northern Appalachians... An upper-level trough will move eastward across the Great Lakes region on Wednesday with west-northwesterly mid-level flow located across much of the northeastern U.S. At the surface, a cold front will advance southeastward into the lower Great Lakes region during the afternoon. A moist airmass will be in place ahead of the front with surface dewpoints in the lower to mid 60s F. Although Lake Erie and Lake Ontario will keep the airmass stable just downstream of the lakes, moderate instability is forecast to develop in much of New York and Pennsylvania by midday. Thunderstorms will develop along the western edge of the moderate instability and move eastward into central New York and northern Pennsylvania during the afternoon. NAM Forecast soundings along this corridor at 21Z/Wednesday show moderate deep-layer shear with very steep lapse rates in the boundary layer. This will be favorable for damaging wind gusts with supercells and organized multicell line segments. Supercells with large hail will also be possible, mainly with discrete storms that form further east in the stronger instability. A tornado threat may also develop during the mid to late afternoon. The greatest potential for tornadoes is forecast across eastern New York and in western New England, where 850 mb winds are forecast to be stronger and 0-3 km storm relative helicities are forecast to be in the 250 to 350 m2/s2 range during the afternoon. ..Broyles.. 05/25/2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, yoda said: Surprised that @weatherwiz isn't tossing the on the afternoon SPC 1730z OTLK It is very intriguing. Looks like that alludes to what I mentioned earlier regarding theta-e ridge that becomes established across northeast MA through western/central CT. This is a bit east then what SPC mentions but it's something to watch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 there really is a pretty impressive overlap of 3km CAPE/0-1km helicity (and 0-3km helicity) from like east-central Mass through CT late afternoon. Pretty long hodographs too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 @dendrite pin this otherwise this will bust and we won't get severe 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 NAM hodo at BDL 7 PM tomorrow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: NAM hodo at BDL 7 PM tomorrow Not bad…not bad at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry's Weather Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 How does this compare to that August threat last summer? I drove all the way out to Poughkeepsie for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: Not bad…not bad at all Pretty impressive environment and CAMs are showing convection around that environment at the time...which would likely be discrete too given the greater forcing still pretty far west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, Henry's Weather said: How does this compare to that August threat last summer? I drove all the way out to Poughkeepsie for that one. Hopefully not comparable. I was cleaning up the RFD debris in my yard until late September. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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