Hoosier Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 56 minutes ago, IWXwx said: @Hoosier The discussion concerning UHI reminded me of a discussion a few days ago about LAF. You and Tim mentioned a long-time sensor issue, but it also could be UHI. Coincidentally, a forecaster at IND mentioned it in the early morning discussion today, calling it a "micro-climate." "HIGHS WILL ONCE AGAIN BE IN THE MID TO UPPER 80S, WITH ISOLATED LOCATIONS IN NORTH CENTRAL INDIANA EXCEEDING 90, MOST NAMELY LAFAYETTE WHERE A WARMER MICROCLIMATE HAS BEEN OBSERVED" LAF has gotten ridiculous. It has gone from seeming to run a bit warm at times to running (well) above surrounding areas to the north, south, east, west. It hasn't been locally dry there either, so that doesn't explain it. I totally think they would hit 100 on a day with widespread mid 90s in the rest of central Indiana. I haven't been to LAF in years, so I'm not sure if there's been new construction by the airport or if the ASOS was moved or something. I do kinda wish Tim and I were still living there as it would be fun to troll him over the warmth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Well, prelim May data is in, and looks like another cool May for the region this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 6 hours ago, beavis1729 said: The UHI at MSP is ridiculous. At first I thought it mostly occurred in the winter due to more lower albedo, less radiational cooling over snow cover, etc. But it’s just as bad in the summer. St. Cloud, a bit north of MSP and much more rural, had a low of 70. It’s reasonable if UHI adds 2-3 degrees, but not 8. It’s a major problem that needs to be addressed by all of us, led by urban planners and engineers. Toronto is experiencing this as well. The overnight temperatures and overall UHI is really noticeable. The current government is on the path to suburbanize more of our green belt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenbelt_(Golden_Horseshoe) for anyone interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 at least tied the record of 92 in Madison today, set back in one of the big heat years, 1934 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 92 at ORD and MDW, and 93 at ex home today.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chicago Storm said: 92 at ORD and MDW, and 93 at ex home today. . Hopefully tomorrow doesn't fall short of 90. Will have to keep the more extensive clouds away long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Hopefully tomorrow doesn't fall short of 90. Will have to keep the more extensive clouds away long enough.I’ll bring a torch in with me tomorrow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Here's the Spring chart for our region with a look at the 3 months that comprise it. Warm March to a near avg April to a cool May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chicago Storm said: I’ll bring a torch in with me tomorrow. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: LAF has gotten ridiculous. It has gone from seeming to run a bit warm at times to running (well) above surrounding areas to the north, south, east, west. It hasn't been locally dry there either, so that doesn't explain it. I totally think they would hit 100 on a day with widespread mid 90s in the rest of central Indiana. I haven't been to LAF in years, so I'm not sure if there's been new construction by the airport or if the ASOS was moved or something. I do kinda wish Tim and I were still living there as it would be fun to troll him over the warmth I haven’t paid any attention to LAF in a long time. Is it really running that warm? And trolling me...you always can use IKK to do that. Especially dewpoints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Hit 92 at both MLI and DVN, 91 here today. Looks like some issues with more clouds/higher dews may make it a little tougher to hit 90 tomorrow in this area. Chances for scattered showers/storms increase though in coming days which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chicago WX said: I haven’t paid any attention to LAF in a long time. Is it really running that warm? And trolling me...you always can use IKK to do that. Especially dewpoints Yes. 91 there now. Look at surrounding areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Yes. 91 there now. Look at surrounding areas. Oh my Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 99 in La Crosse today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Appears we will be 99’d in MSP today. 5min obs been stuck there since 120pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogget Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Hit 94 here. Bad summer to execute new landscaping ideas. Watering new plants is getting to be a full-time job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 My great big AC just a mile away keeps me cool. For now at least. Inland has been in the low 90's the last 2 days with temps 10-15 degrees cooler here by the Lake. With the Lake still pretty cold, just like the ocean sea breezes of the afternoon, we get that here too until the water warms up later in July. Then AC is needed off and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Cedar Rapids officially hit 90º for the first time this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Records 6/4 & 6/5 Duluth 93 (90 1968); 94 (88 1925/1988) I-Falls 98 (92 1988); 91 2nd to 94 1988 Brainerd 100 (89 1988); 96 (92 1952) Hibbing 95 (88 1988); 94 (90 1988) Ashland 93 (92 1968); 94 (93 1988) Grand Forks 103 (96 1961); 99 (95 1988) Fargo 102 (95 1959); 98 (95 1939) Impressive stuff last couple days. More near record to record heat possible tomorrow as well. Staying above normal well into next week, so top 5 heat still possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 6, 2021 Author Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, madwx said: 99 in La Crosse today I recall them hitting 108 in 1995. Not sure about the surroundings there but maybe some kind of valley effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 6, 2021 Author Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Chicago WX said: Oh my Would be fun to play over/under on the number of 90s at LAF in met summer. Might have to set it at about 69.5 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hoosier said: I recall them hitting 108 in 1995. Not sure about the surroundings there but maybe some kind of valley effects? Yep, 7/13/95. Tied with 7/14/36 as the all time high at that station. BTW in 5/31/34 it was 107. Early June heat up here got nothing on that one. That region has a topo of bluffs and valleys, so very possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartman Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Only hit 84. NWS forecast high today was a little too warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, OrdIowPitMsp said: Appears we will be 99’d in MSP today. 5min obs been stuck there since 120pm Kind of sucks to be at 99 for over 2hrs and not attain the 100. Still impressive for so early though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Spartman said: Only hit 84. NWS forecast high today was a little too warm. 4 degrees above average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 I recall them hitting 108 in 1995. Not sure about the surroundings there but maybe some kind of valley effects?Was actually up there back in December. They deal with effects from the valley, upslope and downslope. The airport sits at just about the lowest spot in the valley, with the highest bluffs just west. No doubt the reason hot days end up higher end around there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Thunderstorms are likely almost every single day next week. Have not seen a forecast like this in quite some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: Thunderstorms are likely almost every single day next week. Have not seen a forecast like this in quite some time Sunday A chance of showers, with thunderstorms also possible after 3pm. Increasing clouds, with a high near 85. Light south wind increasing to 5 to 9 mph in the morning. Chance of precipitation is 30%. Sunday Night A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 69. South wind 7 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%. Monday A chance of showers and thunderstorms, then showers and possibly a thunderstorm after 9am. High near 82. South wind 6 to 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms. Monday Night Showers and possibly a thunderstorm before 9pm, then a chance of showers and thunderstorms between 9pm and 3am, then a chance of showers after 3am. Low around 69. South wind 5 to 7 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms. Tuesday A chance of showers before 9am, then a chance of showers and thunderstorms between 9am and 3pm, then showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm after 3pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 84. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms. Tuesday Night Showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm before 9pm, then a chance of showers and thunderstorms after 9pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 69. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Wednesday A chance of showers and thunderstorms, then showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm after 3pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 83. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Wednesday Night Showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm before 9pm, then a chance of showers and thunderstorms between 9pm and 3am, then a chance of showers after 3am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 69. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Thursday A chance of showers before 9am, then a chance of showers and thunderstorms between 9am and 3pm, then showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm after 3pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 84. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Thursday Night Showers and thunderstorms likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 69. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Friday Showers and thunderstorms likely. Partly sunny, with a high near 85. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Friday Night Showers and thunderstorms likely. Partly cloudy, with a low around 67. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Saturday A 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 84. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 minute ago, StormfanaticInd said: Thunderstorms are likely almost every single day next week. Have not seen a forecast like this in quite some time It looks like a Florida-type pattern, which is always full of localized 1"+ bullseyes and holes. Will need at least three or four days in that kind of pattern to get a soaking rain everywhere. Would much prefer an MCS that shares the wealth more, but that's really hard to come by this year. Really tired of backdoor cold fronts and dry easterlies. That crap is getting really old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 minute ago, frostfern said: It looks like a Florida-type pattern, which is always full of localized 1"+ bullseyes and holes. Will need at least three or four days in that kind of pattern to get a soaking rain everywhere. Would much prefer an MCS that shares the wealth more, but that's really hard to come by this year. Really tired of backdoor cold fronts and dry easterlies. That crap is getting really old. Localized flash flooding could become a problem in this pattern but we need the rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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