Powerball Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, TexMexWx said: Woah wait a 10% sigtor countour in the latest outlook just barely northeast of here EDIT: We're in or close to being in all sig severe hazards here in the Metroplex. Actually, all of the Collin County suburbs (Plano, Frisco, McKinney, Allen, etc.) are in the 10% hatched SigTor area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WhirlingWx Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Powerball said: Actually, all of the Collin County suburbs (Plano, Frisco, McKinney, Allen, etc.) are in the 10% hatched SigTor area. You're right, now with the updated map on SPC I see that the 10% hatched is like maybe 10 miles north/northwest of me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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weatherextreme Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 Looks like the SPC is not out right sold on sig tornadoes with this setup, but is mentioning as more a possibility. Given rich boundary-layer moisture coupled with the large MLCAPE, there is concern for at least conditional significant tornado potential across a portion of north TX into southeast OK. If upscale growth occurs too quickly, this may not be realized, but have highlighted a corridor of enhanced tornado potential in this region. Otherwise, upscale growth will occur at some point this evening rendering a predominant severe wind threat spreading east-northeast towards the Mid-South through tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhirlingWx Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Yeah it's a conditional threat with multiple things that can work against it, but the potential is there to point it out. Plus, with as much CAPE as we are forecasted to have, weird mesoscale accidents happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, weatherextreme said: Looks like the SPC is not out right sold on sig tornadoes with this setup, but is mentioning as more a possibility. Given rich boundary-layer moisture coupled with the large MLCAPE, there is concern for at least conditional significant tornado potential across a portion of north TX into southeast OK. If upscale growth occurs too quickly, this may not be realized, but have highlighted a corridor of enhanced tornado potential in this region. Otherwise, upscale growth will occur at some point this evening rendering a predominant severe wind threat spreading east-northeast towards the Mid-South through tonight. I'm not impressed with the tornado threat frankly, with the veered wind profile above 925mb and the (relatively) limited low-level shear. The hail threat is legit though, as well as the potential for downburst winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhirlingWx Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I just stepped outside for the first time today (lol) and it feels the soupiest it's been all year. Full sunshine too. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SluggerWx Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Holy 12z HRRR helicity swaths for NW/northern TX this afternoon... There's another 200 mile swath showing up on the NSSL that tracks from Odessa all the way to the western outskirts of DFW metroplex starting around 6-7pm tonight thru tomorrow morning.Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluggerWx Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 There's another 200 mile swath showing up on the NSSL that tracks from Odessa all the way to the western outskirts of DFW metroplex starting around 6-7pm tonight thru tomorrow morning.Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using TapatalkActually, these mega swaths are more apparent on the last few runs of the HRRR (like you posted). Kind of alarming to see the same tracks show up on the 12z, 13z, 14z, 15z and 16z run.It seems like normally there's deviation across 5 runs, but these mega swaths are there for 5 straight runs!Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese007 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Well I guess SPC was onto something with the original threat area after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhirlingWx Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 These southeast US 5% risks keep producing tornadoes, which frankly doesn't impact our risk much but these systems sure seem to want to drop 'em. Shear is still pretty weak here though and I don't think that's expected to change much on a large scale (obviously this is more in reference to the tornado threat in particular). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 000 FXUS64 KFWD 031832 AFDFWD Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Fort Worth TX 132 PM CDT Mon May 3 2021 ...New Short Term, Aviation... .SHORT TERM... /NEW/ /Today and Tonight/ Severe thunderstorms capable of producing significant large hail, damaging winds, and tornadoes will be possible late this afternoon into tonight. All North and Central Texas residents need to stay weather aware today given the possibility of significant severe weather. Make sure to have multiple ways of receiving any weather alerts, and have a plan in case you are in the path of hazardous weather. A rapid evolution of today and tonight`s forecast has taken place within the last 24 hours. Minor changes in the timing of the front and rapid moisture return have contributed to an increasing potential for significant severe weather starting late this afternoon. A cold front is now draped northeast to southwest from near Bowie to Graham, slowly advancing to the southeast. Meanwhile, dew points throughout the region have surged into the lower 70s ahead of the front. At the moment, a stout capping inversion is keeping convection from developing. This, however, is expected to change in the next few hours. Radiational heating will continue ahead of the front, leading to greater destabilization across the region. CAMs continue to favor an area around Stephenville for initial thunderstorm development, which coincides with recent RAP analysis of a developing area of greater moisture convergence. An incoming shortwave, coupled with the surface front and a pseudo-dryline will come together to produce explosive thunderstorm development initially to the west/southwest of the DFW Metroplex. Storms will then migrate eastward through North Texas. Steep mid-level lapse rates will lead to CAPE values exceeding 4000 J/kg which would translate to significantly large hail. Deep layer shear and a strong southerly low-level flow will also increase the potential for damaging winds and tornadoes. The overall tornado potential will depend on the evolution of the storms across North Texas. If storms are able to remain discrete, a greater tornado potential may develop in areas east of I-35 and north of I-30. An atypical setup this evening will also lead to a potential for severe storms behind the front. Given continued steep lapse rates and high amounts of instability, a few elevated supercells capable of large hail will be possible across North Texas after around 10pm. The main line of storms associated with the front will continue moving to the southeast through the night, likely exiting our far eastern and southeastern counties closer to sunrise Tuesday. Cloudy skies will persist through much of tomorrow morning, but should gradually disperse by tomorrow afternoon. In contrast with today`s temperatures in the upper 80s to lower 90s, tomorrow`s highs will stay in the 80s across North Texas to mid 70s across Central Texas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhirlingWx Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 That's a very thoughtful discussion by FWD. I really am hoping we dodge a bullet with any significant severe storms, but again, it's conditional days like these that have produced our most noteworthy severe weather events for the past several years. I have a ton of work to catch up on, but if I have time and the situation presents itself, there's a park within a couple miles of my house that gives me a slightly elevated perch to look off miles to the west that I could go to for a bit and see if I can view anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yoda Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2000 OTLK maintains 10% sig tor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 STW coming in a few hours sounds like for SE NM and W TX -- https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0497.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormChazer Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I'll be headed out shortly down to McAlester to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese007 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Mesoscale Discussion 0498 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0314 PM CDT Mon May 03 2021 Areas affected...Northern Texas and southeast Oklahoma Concerning...Severe potential...Tornado Watch likely Valid 032014Z - 032215Z Probability of Watch Issuance...95 percent SUMMARY...Strong to severe thunderstorms are expected to develop across north Texas and south-central Oklahoma between 5-7 PM CDT. These storms will pose a risk for large hail and a few tornadoes. A watch is likely by 21 UTC. DISCUSSION...Surface observations from north TX and southern OK reveal a surface low northeast of Abilene, TX with a stalled cold front draped to the southwest and a dryline extending to the south. To the northeast of this low, a stationary front is noted across southern to northeast OK. Recent GOES visible imagery shows a shallow, but growing, cumulus field west of the DFW metro into southeast OK east of the stationary boundary. A 19 UTC FWD sounding shows considerable MLCIN remains in place, and should keep convection at bay in the near term. However, continued diurnal heating and increasing ascent over the region (due to the approach of an upper-level wave from the west) will help erode lingering inhibition by the 5-7 PM CDT time frame. Deep-layer shear is forecast to increase as stronger flow associated with the synoptic trough moves over the region, which will support initially discrete cells along the dryline and stationary boundary. Steep mid-level lapse rates noted in the 19 UTC FWD sounding and dewpoints increasing into the upper 60s/low 70s will support MLCAPE values near 3000-4000 J/kg. Consequently, severe hail appears likely and a few instances of large (2+") hail are probable with any initial discrete storms. The KFWS VWP recently observed around 100 m2/s2 0-1 km SRH, which may support at least a low-end tornado threat across north TX. The tornado threat will likely be higher along the Red River and northward into south/southeast OK in the vicinity of the triple point and along the stationary boundary where more backed low-level winds are noted and environmental vertical vorticity is higher. Although the potential for a few tornadoes exists with any initial discrete convection, rapid upscale growth is possible within an hour or two after initiation, and may limit the overall tornado potential. Nonetheless, a tornado watch is likely by 21 UTC. ..Moore/Grams.. 05/03/2021 ...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product... ATTN...WFO...SHV...TSA...FWD...OUN...SJT... LAT...LON 32349878 33399800 34149751 34849731 35219655 35269553 34959507 34309498 33569502 32899532 32439620 31919717 31539805 31409867 31639898 32349878 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Just now, cheese007 said: Mesoscale Discussion 0498 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0314 PM CDT Mon May 03 2021 Areas affected...Northern Texas and southeast Oklahoma Concerning...Severe potential...Tornado Watch likely Valid 032014Z - 032215Z Probability of Watch Issuance...95 percent SUMMARY...Strong to severe thunderstorms are expected to develop across north Texas and south-central Oklahoma between 5-7 PM CDT. These storms will pose a risk for large hail and a few tornadoes. A watch is likely by 21 UTC. DISCUSSION...Surface observations from north TX and southern OK reveal a surface low northeast of Abilene, TX with a stalled cold front draped to the southwest and a dryline extending to the south. To the northeast of this low, a stationary front is noted across southern to northeast OK. Recent GOES visible imagery shows a shallow, but growing, cumulus field west of the DFW metro into southeast OK east of the stationary boundary. A 19 UTC FWD sounding shows considerable MLCIN remains in place, and should keep convection at bay in the near term. However, continued diurnal heating and increasing ascent over the region (due to the approach of an upper-level wave from the west) will help erode lingering inhibition by the 5-7 PM CDT time frame. Deep-layer shear is forecast to increase as stronger flow associated with the synoptic trough moves over the region, which will support initially discrete cells along the dryline and stationary boundary. Steep mid-level lapse rates noted in the 19 UTC FWD sounding and dewpoints increasing into the upper 60s/low 70s will support MLCAPE values near 3000-4000 J/kg. Consequently, severe hail appears likely and a few instances of large (2+") hail are probable with any initial discrete storms. The KFWS VWP recently observed around 100 m2/s2 0-1 km SRH, which may support at least a low-end tornado threat across north TX. The tornado threat will likely be higher along the Red River and northward into south/southeast OK in the vicinity of the triple point and along the stationary boundary where more backed low-level winds are noted and environmental vertical vorticity is higher. Although the potential for a few tornadoes exists with any initial discrete convection, rapid upscale growth is possible within an hour or two after initiation, and may limit the overall tornado potential. Nonetheless, a tornado watch is likely by 21 UTC. ..Moore/Grams.. 05/03/2021 ...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product... ATTN...WFO...SHV...TSA...FWD...OUN...SJT... LAT...LON 32349878 33399800 34149751 34849731 35219655 35269553 34959507 34309498 33569502 32899532 32439620 31919717 31539805 31409867 31639898 32349878 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese007 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 3-4K CAPE is some nasty stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Just now, cheese007 said: 3-4K CAPE is some nasty stuff! 5000 J/KG MUCAPE popping up on the SPC mesoanalysis page now. Also, LIs of -12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwgrrc Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Gosh no. I have an airport pick up at 7-ish. Probably the worst time to show up at DFW... Should I stay home for while or arrive there early and hide in the garage? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 You can now start to see what looks to be gravity waves on the visible satellite, and the CU field increasing. This is all on the nose of the 700mb jet streak. Should start seeing action rev up soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witness Protection Program Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 The lower levels of those massive semi-circle parking garages seem like a good option, especially Terminal D's, since the west side is wrapped and mostly shielded by the terminal. I'd duck in if the radar looks risky, I bet the parking fee is cheaper than the insurance deductable in America's hail capital. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormChazer Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 There's the Watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witness Protection Program Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Is it the dryline or front that is the visible line on the DFW and Abilene radars, stretching from Lake Bridgeport and across the NW tip of Parker County down to Santa Anna, then trails west towards Ballinger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwgrrc Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Witness Protection Program said: The lower levels of those massive semi-circle parking garages seem like a good option, especially Terminal D's, since the west side is wrapped and mostly shielded by the terminal. I'd duck in if the radar looks risky, I bet the parking fee is cheaper than the insurance deductable in America's hail capital. haha Thanks so much! I need to watch radar closely from now on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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