Bevo Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 The OT format for the NFL is long past the need for revising. Too huge of an advantage for the coin toss winner. Chiefs/Bills was literally determined by a coin toss. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bevo said: The OT format for the NFL is long past the need for revising. Too huge of an advantage for the coin toss winner. Chiefs/Bills was literally determined by a coin toss. It's the playoffs. Why not just put 15 more minutes on the clock, whoever is ahead at the end wins, 15 more if tied? It's not that hard. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, olafminesaw said: It's the playoffs. Why not just put 15 more minutes on the clock, whoever is ahead at the end wins, 15 more if tied? It's not that hard. While I agree to some extent, your assessment assumes the other team cannot field a defense thar can keep the other team out of the end zone. All they needed was one stop and they couldn’t get it. It’s a 2 sided game not just offense. I like the revised format where a FG doesn’t win it like it used to on your first possession (start with good field position drive 15 yards kick a 50 yarder) but, last night is a perfect example, if your defense cannot keep the other team out of the end zone when they absolutely need it, that team does not deserve to win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow dog Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: While I agree to some extent, your assessment assumes the other team cannot field a defense thar can keep the other team out of the end zone. All they needed was one stop and they couldn’t get it. It’s a 2 sided game not just offense. I like the revised format where a FG doesn’t win it like it used to on your first possession (start with good field position drive 15 yards kick a 50 yarder) but, last night is a perfect example, if your defense cannot keep the other team out of the end zone when they absolutely need it, that team does not deserve to win The thing is, neither could the KC defense keep the Bills out of the endzone, thus the argument that a coin toss should not carry so much weight in deciding the outcome.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, olafminesaw said: It's the playoffs. Why not just put 15 more minutes on the clock, whoever is ahead at the end wins, 15 more if tied? It's not that hard. That would be better than the current format. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: While I agree to some extent, your assessment assumes the other team cannot field a defense thar can keep the other team out of the end zone. All they needed was one stop and they couldn’t get it. It’s a 2 sided game not just offense. I like the revised format where a FG doesn’t win it like it used to on your first possession (start with good field position drive 15 yards kick a 50 yarder) but, last night is a perfect example, if your defense cannot keep the other team out of the end zone when they absolutely need it, that team does not deserve to win Had the Bills won that toss, the shoe is on the other foot. Too much of an advantage rests on a flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snownado Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 At the very least the other team should be given the chance to match their touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: While I agree to some extent, your assessment assumes the other team cannot field a defense thar can keep the other team out of the end zone. All they needed was one stop and they couldn’t get it. It’s a 2 sided game not just offense. I like the revised format where a FG doesn’t win it like it used to on your first possession (start with good field position drive 15 yards kick a 50 yarder) but, last night is a perfect example, if your defense cannot keep the other team out of the end zone when they absolutely need it, that team does not deserve to win I do kinda agree. Problem is, so many rules these days favor offenses. I think overall, the rule is reasonably fair, in terms of giving each team equal chances of success. People also don't consider that all else being equal, a teams chance of winning after winning the toss is lower than the opposing team's chance of winning if they get a defensive stop. I think the reality though is that sports first and foremost are about entertainment. And the opportunity to see both teams go up and down the field a couple times with a clean slate is way more exciting than when one star QB capitalizes on his team's chance at the exclusion of the other star QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatLander48 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, olafminesaw said: It's the playoffs. Why not just put 15 more minutes on the clock, whoever is ahead at the end wins, 15 more if tied? It's not that hard. I agree with this, though I'd make it more like 10 minutes. Everyone gets two timeouts and one challenge maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snownado Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Another thing that I think is stupid is having divisions in baseball. Why not just have one division in each league? It's not fair for some teams to be stuck in harder divisions than others. Then again, I guess MLB is more concerned about entertainment than fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Bevo said: Had the Bills won that toss, the shoe is on the other foot. Too much of an advantage rests on a flip. 12 minutes ago, FlatLander48 said: I agree with this, though I'd make it more like 10 minutes. Everyone gets two timeouts and one challenge maybe? I think my point is you’re assuming every OT game is an offensive shootout when many are 9-9 or 12-12 low scoring contests where playing an extra quarter is likely to result in not much scoring. At some point in football your professional defense needs to earn their paycheck and stop the other team. There had to be a winner and the bills had their chance. Just hold them to a dang FG and by your logic they’d win bc they’d score a TD. I absolutely don’t think playing another quarter of football would’ve been beneficial besides likely causing more injuries to the team going to the conference championship putting them at a disadvantage going in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmaker13 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Possible best storm in several years this weekend for NC. Hard to get excited with the markets in freefall and possible WWIII looming 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Snownado said: At the very least the other team should be given the chance to match their touchdown. OK. Let’s say they match it. Tied again. Now what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snownado Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, jburns said: OK. Let’s say they match it. Tied again. Now what? Keep going until one team has more points than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, Snownado said: Keep going until one team has more points than the other. OK so team one gets the ball for the second time and scores again. Is that it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snownado Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, jburns said: OK so team one gets the ball for the second time and scores again. Is that it? No. The other team has an another opportunity to match them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Snownado said: No. The other team has an another opportunity to match them. I see a problem here. The program seems to be stuck in a loop. Besides it is never completely fair. If team one scores team two knows it now does not have to worry about punting on fourth down so it has 4 plays to get each first down on its drive instead of three. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow dog Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 IMO, collage football has the OT correct. To make going last fair, each team switches turns going first.,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, jburns said: I see a problem here. The program seems to be stuck in a loop. Besides it is never completely fair. If team one scores team two knows it now does not have to worry about punting on fourth down so it has 4 plays to get each first down on its drive instead of three. I like beer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Snow dog said: IMO, collage football has the OT correct. To make going last fair, each team switches turns going first.,. It certainly better than the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Has anyone on the forum other than the Florida folks NOT seen winter weather this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Snow dog said: IMO, collage football has the OT correct. To make going last fair, each team switches turns going first.,. I like the college football model for college. The only problem I have with it is it’s gimmicky. It doesn’t force a team to drive. Running plays inside the redzone is a heck of a lot simpler than driving down the field to get to the redzone. I don’t like it for the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDawg Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: I like the college football model for college. The only problem I have with it is it’s gimmicky. It doesn’t force a team to drive. Running plays inside the redzone is a heck of a lot simpler than driving down the field to get to the redzone. I don’t like it for the NFL I've always thought a college system from further back would suit the NFL well. Drives start at midfield or the opposite 40, forcing teams to have to get a first down or two to even attempt a field goal, and it's far enough back the whole playbook is open including deep. Other than that rules are the same as college, trade possessions until there is a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: I like the college football model for college. The only problem I have with it is it’s gimmicky. It doesn’t force a team to drive. Running plays inside the redzone is a heck of a lot simpler than driving down the field to get to the redzone. I don’t like it for the NFL I agree with your point about long drives but the main issue with overtime is fairness. Guaranteed red zone chances would be more fair than the current setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Prismshine Productions Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Has anyone on the forum other than the Florida folks NOT seen winter weather this season? Panhandle got snow twice this winter before Columbia, SC got theirs Sent from my SM-S115DL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snownado Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, NorthHillsWx said: Has anyone on the forum other than the Florida folks NOT seen winter weather this season? Birmingham to Atlanta corridor has seen very little to no snow this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatherNature Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, jburns said: It certainly better than the NFL. My biggest pet peeve is when people say “Well they could of stopped them!”… Sure Buffalo could of stopped them from scoring a touchdown… but the argument is we NEVER got to see if the Chiefs could stop the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 hours ago, lilj4425 said: I like beer. While watching tic tac toe... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wncsnow Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 We start threads for anything now eh? 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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