paweather Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 7:59 PM, Bubbler86 said: I think signing Harper has doomed them for awhile. Expand and Rueben's idea was to win and win right away, it wasn't bad it worked in 2008 and they spent a ton of money in Free Agency and Trades to get the critical pieces back then. Now, they are spending dollars like Harper but don't have a complete team around him. Pitching is terrible outside of Nola and even he is up and down. Bullpen is horrible. I want them to go to the Moneyball approach like the A's did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:02 PM, paweather said: and Rueben's idea was to win and win right away, it wasn't bad it worked in 2008 and they spent a ton of money in Free Agency and Trades to get the critical pieces back then. Now, they are spending dollars like Harper but don't have a complete team around him. Pitching is terrible outside of Nola and even he is up and down. Bullpen is horrible. I want them to go to the Moneyball approach like the A's did. Expand Moneyball is more fun for the fans, IMO. Plucky winners are easy to root on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:02 PM, TimB84 said: And Cutch. Expand Grampy Cutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:03 PM, Bubbler86 said: Moneyball is more fun for the fans, IMO. Plucky winners are easy to root on. Expand Yep agreed. get the farm system in place and working, and play the young guys who would go out everyday and bust their arse to compete and win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:02 PM, TimB84 said: And Cutch. Expand Terrible slump this year, I like him but he isn't the same as when he was with the Pirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:05 PM, paweather said: Terrible slump this year, I like him but he isn't the same as when he was with the Pirates. Expand Pirates and Phillies representative pics of Cutch below. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Now time to get back to the O's For Training, and his remaining 13 game winning streak. HAHA! Hey you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:07 PM, Bubbler86 said: Pirates and Phillies representative pics of Cutch below. Expand LOLLLLL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:05 PM, paweather said: Terrible slump this year, I like him but he isn't the same as when he was with the Pirates. Expand I’ll always be grateful to him for giving me the chance to watch playoff baseball for probably the only time in my adult life, and he’s probably my favorite Pirate of all time, but man did his production mysteriously fall off a cliff at a young age. It’s understandable now that he’s almost 35, but it happened suddenly by the time he was 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 The team I admire most in MLB? The Rays. Again this year they were largely discounted as they are every year...and look where they are... Now real quick, someone fire off the starting 9. Yeah...I didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:02 PM, TimB84 said: And Cutch. Expand On 6/2/2021 at 8:04 PM, Bubbler86 said: Grampy Cutch Expand Had season tickets in Harrisburg when Cutch played for the Altoona Curve. Man was he fun to watch back then... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:09 PM, Itstrainingtime said: The team I admire most in MLB? The Rays. Again this year they were largely discounted as they are every year...and look where they are... Now real quick, someone fire off the starting 9. Yeah...I didn't think so. Expand TB is red hot in general. They cannot do attendance well there but man do they work wonders on small budgets in different sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:09 PM, Itstrainingtime said: The team I admire most in MLB? The Rays. Again this year they were largely discounted as they are every year...and look where they are... Now real quick, someone fire off the starting 9. Yeah...I didn't think so. Expand YOU ARE EXACTLY SPOT ON! The Rays wow, and they have done that in the past as well and no I can't give you one name off the starting 9. I admire them for how they built that roster and compete as well as they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:09 PM, TimB84 said: I’ll always be grateful to him for giving me the chance to watch playoff baseball for probably the only time in my adult life, and he’s probably my favorite Pirate of all time, but man did his production mysteriously fall off a cliff at a young age. It’s understandable now that he’s almost 35, but it happened suddenly by the time he was 30. Expand Yes he did. Last year he was better until the ACL injury put him out for the season. He has fallen in performance and as you said at a younger age than what would think it would have been. He knows we are talking about him so in a month he will be over the 300 BA. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:12 PM, Bubbler86 said: TB is red hot in general. They cannot do attendance well there but man do they work wonders on small budgets in different sports. Expand On 6/2/2021 at 8:13 PM, paweather said: YOU ARE EXACTLY SPOT ON! The Rays wow, and they have done that in the past as well and no I can't give you one name off the starting 9. I admire them for how they built that roster and compete as well as they do. Expand Major league results with minor league vibe (attendance, star power, etc.) but they get it done. Have to nod your cap to 'em. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:22 PM, Itstrainingtime said: Major league results with minor league vibe (attendance, star power, etc.) but they get it done. Have to nod your cap to 'em. Expand It's the thing I dislike about the Red Sox. Too much spending on players who are not always committed. More fun back in the days of Jim Rice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Dale Murphy, Jim Rice, The Bull Greg Luzinski, Jack Clark, Dave Kingman, Eddie Murray, Michael Jack Schmidt... Do they still star in today's game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 The Nam has all our backs in the next 2-3 days...east or west. 18Z Namming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:25 PM, Bubbler86 said: It's the thing I dislike about the Red Sox. Too much spending on players who are not always committed. More fun back in the days of Jim Rice. Expand dude. Xander, Devers, Verdugo are all amazing yo watch and very very cost-controlled (changes for Xander soon but still). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 11:11 PM, canderson said: dude. Xander, Devers, Verdugo are all amazing yo watch and very very cost-controlled (changes for Xander soon but still). Expand I am a classic, old fashioned guy. I was referring to the ilk of Carl Crawford and Pablo Sandoval. Since TB was brought up I thought of Crawford right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 11:22 PM, Bubbler86 said: I am a classic, old fashioned guy. I was referring to the ilk of Carl Crawford and Pablo Sandoval. Since TB was brought up I thought of Crawford right away. Expand I almost got kicked out of Camden yards in September 2011 for yelling at Carl Crawford. I came thisclose to jumping over a fence ….. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 12:15 AM, canderson said: I almost got kicked out of Camden yards in September 2011 for yelling at Carl Crawford. I came thisclose to jumping over a fence ….. Expand You'd fit right in at an NBA arena. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 12:54 PM, Bubbler86 said: So for my 5000th post I am going to dedicate it to @Blizzard of 93 to remind him that any snow we get this month still technically counts in the 20-21 winter season. Keep up the hope! Expand Lol...I am honored to be mentioned in your 5000th post! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:03 PM, Bubbler86 said: Moneyball is more fun for the fans, IMO. Plucky winners are easy to root on. Expand Moneyball is not fun for the fans when teams like the A’s and Ray’s trade away players when they get into their last 2 years of arbitration and their salary starts to increase too much for their small budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:09 PM, Itstrainingtime said: The team I admire most in MLB? The Rays. Again this year they were largely discounted as they are every year...and look where they are... Now real quick, someone fire off the starting 9. Yeah...I didn't think so. Expand Lol... Don’t worry, their good players will be traded away before too long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:25 PM, Bubbler86 said: It's the thing I dislike about the Red Sox. Too much spending on players who are not always committed. More fun back in the days of Jim Rice. Expand Back in the days with 100 years of No World Series victory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 12:52 AM, Blizzard of 93 said: Back in the days with 100 years of No World Series victory? Expand Before my time. I am a Dewey Evans and Jim Rice disciple. Then Nomar and Kevin Millar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 12:47 AM, Blizzard of 93 said: Moneyball is not fun for the fans when teams like the A’s and Ray’s trade away players when they get into their last 2 years of arbitration and their salary starts to increase too much for their small budget. Expand At the end of the day, the Royals have as many titles as the Yankees in the past 20 years. That’s incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 12:47 AM, Blizzard of 93 said: Moneyball is not fun for the fans when teams like the A’s and Ray’s trade away players when they get into their last 2 years of arbitration and their salary starts to increase too much for their small budget. Expand Like NCAA. Just when you get to know someone, they are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 1:01 AM, TimB84 said: At the end of the day, the Royals have as many titles as the Yankees in the past 20 years. That’s incredible. Expand And TB has two World Series appearances during that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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