CoastalWx Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, backedgeapproaching said: They germinate in fall and overwinter and then will produce flowers/seeds in spring that drop and start the process over again. Recommend anything to kill it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Anyone have experience with bare root plants? I was looking at buying a couple bare root forsythia. When can those be planted and how fast do they grow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: Anyone have experience with bare root plants? I was looking at buying a couple bare root forsythia. When can those be planted and how fast do they grow? Keep them moist and dormant and plant them as soon as you can get them in. Forsythia grows like a weed and can easily be rooted from cuttings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: Recommend anything to kill it? If its small area, you can try to pull it, but it might leave some roots/stolons. You can get this at big box stores...dont shoot the messenger about using chemicals, just passing along info... https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ortho-Weed-B-Gon-32-oz-Chickweed-Clover-and-Oxalis-Killer-For-Lawns-Ready-To-Spray-0398710/206427519?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&&mtc=Shopping-RM-F_DYNM-G-D28O-028_001_CHEMICALS-ORTHO-NA-NA-SMART-NA-NA-MK490343300_9016834187_FY22_3411&cm_mmc=Shopping-RM-F_DYNM-G-D28O-028_001_CHEMICALS-ORTHO-NA-NA-SMART-NA-NA-MK490343300_9016834187_FY22_3411-71700000086577261-58700007370051735-92700065989446756&gclid=CjwKCAiAg6yRBhBNEiwAeVyL0IQVTwNEeIKKhUHrWaHtS6YmtqUcjy3fIJEqY6JeiN6nZokk6jwCERoCC9sQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 4 hours ago, dendrite said: Looks like chicken feed. Yep, it would be nice if you could train them to be more picky and just eat weeds and not everything in sight, that would be pretty sweet..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, backedgeapproaching said: If its small area, you can try to pull it, but it might leave some roots/stolons. You can get this at big box stores...dont shoot the messenger about using chemicals, just passing along info... https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ortho-Weed-B-Gon-32-oz-Chickweed-Clover-and-Oxalis-Killer-For-Lawns-Ready-To-Spray-0398710/206427519?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&&mtc=Shopping-RM-F_DYNM-G-D28O-028_001_CHEMICALS-ORTHO-NA-NA-SMART-NA-NA-MK490343300_9016834187_FY22_3411&cm_mmc=Shopping-RM-F_DYNM-G-D28O-028_001_CHEMICALS-ORTHO-NA-NA-SMART-NA-NA-MK490343300_9016834187_FY22_3411-71700000086577261-58700007370051735-92700065989446756&gclid=CjwKCAiAg6yRBhBNEiwAeVyL0IQVTwNEeIKKhUHrWaHtS6YmtqUcjy3fIJEqY6JeiN6nZokk6jwCERoCC9sQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Well we need to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, backedgeapproaching said: Yep, it would be nice if you could train them to be more picky and just eat weeds and not everything in sight, that would be pretty sweet..lol. I wish I could train wild turkeys to eat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I wish I could train wild turkeys to eat them. Get some goats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 hours ago, dendrite said: Keep them moist and dormant and plant them as soon as you can get them in. Forsythia grows like a weed and can easily be rooted from cuttings. So if I get them next week plant em? Even if frost is coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 hours ago, CoastalWx said: Recommend anything to kill it? Gasoline should do the trick, but at 4.50 a gallon, use sparingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: So if I get them next week plant em? Even if frost is coming? Up to you. If you can keep them dormant you can wait. But it's forsythia. It's like the first thing to bloom every spring. The root system isn't established yet though. Do you have a cold, dark basement or garage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 4 hours ago, CoastalWx said: Recommend anything to kill it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, dendrite said: Up to you. If you can keep them dormant you can wait. But it's forsythia. It's like the first thing to bloom every spring. The root system isn't established yet though. Do you have a cold, dark basement or garage? I don’t… or not really. If it won’t kill them, I’ll plant them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 11 hours ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: I don’t… or not really. If it won’t kill them, I’ll plant them I could always try sending or rooting some cuttings for you too if it dies. Mine is way overgrown. How large are the plants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, dendrite said: I could always try sending or rooting some cuttings for you too if it dies. Mine is way overgrown. How large are the plants? Bare root 12-24” https://www.michiganbulb.com/product/lynwood-gold-forsythia-hedge?p=0819680&pid=73426&gclid=CjwKCAiAg6yRBhBNEiwAeVyL0Fz2O3-E-oUMZUTvhEEQfxwisxPylfrYM59ui7Vio7MQDVSg0hsM4hoCiQwQAvD_BwE instructions are sparse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Why not just wait and get some this spring from a nursery or box store? You can find them almost anywhere that sells trees and shrubs. They will probably have cold hardy cultivars for our region as well…probably much larger plants too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 In the fall I ripped up my entire backyard and restarted with new soil/grass seed as the yard was literally 100% weeds. Managed to successfully grow grass and it looks great, but I know this weed seeds are probably still under that soil so I’m gonna be following/asking questions in the near future about good pre-emergents , weed killer etc. My yard doesn’t have to look like a golf course but I definitely want to keep it looking good. The following were weeds I identified prior to the re-do: Crabgrass, spurge, clover, ground ivy, nutsedge, sweet violet. The clover was particularly bad in the spring and spurge in the last summer. Should be fun lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Do we have any apple rootstock experts out there? I've been researching them for awhile, but I'm torn between a few Geneva types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 First signs of green-up on some lawns in the area. Not yet at mi casa. IIRC, I think mine is one of the last ones in the neighborhood to take shape. How early can one put down a spring fertilizer? Is there time enough to do a first-of-season treatment and some overseeding before putting down any pre-emergent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, moneypitmike said: First signs of green-up on some lawns in the area. Not yet at mi casa. IIRC, I think mine is one of the last ones in the neighborhood to take shape. How early can one put down a spring fertilizer? Is there time enough to do a first-of-season treatment and some overseeding before putting down any pre-emergent? We will start a thread next week. Way too early for fert. Typically the crabgrass preventer goes down when forsythia start to bloom. You can put down a straight starter fert prior to that to assist the greenup, but it’s not totally necessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 oh boy, start up the lawn thread. can't wait to see what challenges i'll have this season. stay tuned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: We will start a thread next week. Way too early for fert. Typically the crabgrass preventer goes down when forsythia start to bloom. You can put down a straight starter fert prior to that to assist the greenup, but it’s not totally necessary. what do you use for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 40 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: oh boy, start up the lawn thread. can't wait to see what challenges i'll have this season. stay tuned 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, dendrite said: Like lime through the grass roots...these are the days of our lawns. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCD17 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/12/2022 at 6:42 PM, Sn0waddict said: In the fall I ripped up my entire backyard and restarted with new soil/grass seed as the yard was literally 100% weeds. Managed to successfully grow grass and it looks great, but I know this weed seeds are probably still under that soil so I’m gonna be following/asking questions in the near future about good pre-emergents , weed killer etc. My yard doesn’t have to look like a golf course but I definitely want to keep it looking good. The following were weeds I identified prior to the re-do: Crabgrass, spurge, clover, ground ivy, nutsedge, sweet violet. The clover was particularly bad in the spring and spurge in the last summer. Should be fun lol. Good luck with your project. Just a reminder that clover isn't a weed. It was only labeled a weed by the herbicide manufacturers in the early 20th century because they couldn't figure out how to kill everything else on your list without killing clover. So it was easier to just call it a weed and make people kill it off. It's green, soft to walk on, doesn't grow over 4" high, is drought tolerant, and feeds pollinators when it flowers. And it's nitrogen-fixing, which means it puts nitrogen back into the soil rather than having to dump bags of nitrogen-rich fertilizer, which comes from the oil industry. I had a "weed-infested" yard that I've been slowly turning into grass/clover mix. No lime, no fertilizer, watering during excessive hot/dry spells only. It's not perfect, but it's getting better each year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Lava Rock said: what do you use for this? Lesco. Simply the best. Better than all the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Lesco. Simply the best. Better than all the rest. I thought you used Dimension for something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Lesco. Simply the best. Better than all the rest. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: I thought you used Dimension for something? That's the crab grass prevention product within Lesco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 7:08 PM, backedgeapproaching said: If its small area, you can try to pull it, but it might leave some roots/stolons. You can get this at big box stores...dont shoot the messenger about using chemicals, just passing along info... https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ortho-Weed-B-Gon-32-oz-Chickweed-Clover-and-Oxalis-Killer-For-Lawns-Ready-To-Spray-0398710/206427519?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&&mtc=Shopping-RM-F_DYNM-G-D28O-028_001_CHEMICALS-ORTHO-NA-NA-SMART-NA-NA-MK490343300_9016834187_FY22_3411&cm_mmc=Shopping-RM-F_DYNM-G-D28O-028_001_CHEMICALS-ORTHO-NA-NA-SMART-NA-NA-MK490343300_9016834187_FY22_3411-71700000086577261-58700007370051735-92700065989446756&gclid=CjwKCAiAg6yRBhBNEiwAeVyL0IQVTwNEeIKKhUHrWaHtS6YmtqUcjy3fIJEqY6JeiN6nZokk6jwCERoCC9sQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Getting back to this, would now be a good time to put this down? I don't want it to effect the lawn from waking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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