mahk_webstah Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 The funny thing about this is if SNE was place about 200-300 miles S and E we would have been hit by probably 5 Major Storms in one year. Dec 09, Feb 5 2010, Feb 12 2010, Storm a couple days ago, Now this storm. We are just getting really unlucky You are giving me an idea....a few thousand tug boats....think of all the jobs it would create! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 I will be skiing... again... You had some bad eggnog today? Not at all. The guys out east can hope they get snow..but this probably hasn't stopped trending east yet. Just not our time in regards to winter storms. There's yrs it wants to snow and yrs it doesn't. I think we know what kind of year this is. I'll still hold out some hope for a trend back west. I've said all along I'd be happy with 4-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 The funny thing about this is if SNE was place about 200-300 miles S and E we would have been hit by probably 5 Major Storms in one year. Dec 09, Feb 5 2010, Feb 12 2010, Storm a couple days ago, Now this storm. We are just getting really unlucky lol You win some and you lose some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolland Death Band Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Suckered again. This thing is STONE DEAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Does anyone want to go golfing next weekend for NY..shouldn't be any snowcover anywhere in SNE. Some of the courses might open up Couple courses open down here, and later next week looks beautiful, looking forward to the warmth if its not going to snow, I have had enough of cold, wind, and snowless ground. Come join us, its 50 a man, automatic two downs, press when your happy, and 5 dollar junk!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbosch Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 The storm was not locked in yesterday, nor is it dead yet. Breathe and enjoy the holidays. I'm enjoying the light snow finally starting to collect. I may be able to add a T to my seasonal total. I'll take it. Let's see what the ensembles have to say, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC48 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I will admit it looks a little on the bleak side but there is still ironically a chance that this could still come a few or so nautical miles northwest of its currently progged position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Its not razor sharp cutoff, but its a decent gradient...it basically has 0.75" at BOS to 0.25" at ORH to 0.10" at the Ct River Valley. What would be the cause for that? Is it b/c the storm deepens so strongly that it wraps up really tightly? Or is it just b/c of the configuration of the storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Ice threat on the Euro in the long range? Nasty little high in Quebec as that lakes cutter comes east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I find it much easier to deal with lack of snow when SNE is getting rain or mix but the Mtns are getting crushed. At least the storms are hitting. But - this OTS pattern can make one a little jaded. Especially W. NE & E. NY weenies. The fact that most NE ski areas are still aob 50% trail count says a lot. At least this storm looks to break up / change the pattern a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPSUSuperstorm2010 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Obviously the Cape and eastern MA are in the game whatever. congrats Thanks Sam, I know that is quite hard for you to say. Anyways models seem to really under perform when it comes to their handling of the comma head and CCB on the western side of the low. With such an intense SLP so close to the Cape and Islands, I wonder if we should see more than 1-2" of QPF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivers Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I will admit it looks a little on the bleak side but there is still ironically a chance that this could still come a few or so nautical miles northwest of its currently progged position. I agree ,we will have changes for sure in the next 4 days you can count on that. I think we still can have something in the middle . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 Ice threat on the Euro in the long range? Nasty little high in Quebec as that lakes cutter comes east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I find it much easier to deal with lack of snow when SNE is getting rain or mix but the Mtns are getting crushed. At least the storms are hitting. But - this OTS pattern can make one a little jaded. Especially W. NE & E. NY weenies. The fact that most NE ski areas are still aob 50% trail count says a lot. At least this storm looks to break up / change the pattern a bit. Those guys got 30 inches in the Feb 26 KU last season while all of us poured rain. I think they can wait a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Thanks Sam, I know that is quite hard for you to say. Anyways models seem to really under perform when it comes to their handling of the comma head and CCB on the western side of the low. With such an intense SLP so close to the Cape and Islands, I wonder if we should see more than 1-2" of QPF. Road trip? I've always wanted to try skiing the dunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Whatever the outcome is I will say I have throughly enjoyed tracking the potential over the past several days and even don't mind that I have been up for about 30 consecutive hours now. While I would be disappointed if nothing happens it's only b/c I obviously want a storm lol but I also know that this outcome was certainly a possibility. The most fun part has been the learning! Can't go wrong with that and I don't mind not sleeping as long as I'm being productive, which I have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 Thanks Sam, I know that is quite hard for you to say. Anyways models seem to really under perform when it comes to their handling of the comma head and CCB on the western side of the low. With such an intense SLP so close to the Cape and Islands, I wonder if we should see more than 1-2" of QPF. You'll be lucky to see a flake of synoptic snow if this east trend is for real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Then we can party like its dec 08 and hit the restart button on winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Those guys got 30 inches in the Feb 26 KU last season while all of us poured rain. I think they can wait a little. Only elevations. Most of us got 3-4" of pinger ridden slush. Had to be over 1000' for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Hey, Thanks! Life is good. I don't need to fret over a storm/non-storm. I'll take whatever I can get. You always knew that but now you have had life's lesson's graphically handed to you. To you, I wish you good health and happiness in 2011! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Only elevations. Most of us got 3-4" of pinger ridden slush. Had to be over 1000' for that one. Yeah... 10-12" here Seriously, SNH, CT Valley really could use a few mod events or a big hit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston-winter08 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Thanks Sam, I know that is quite hard for you to say. Anyways models seem to really under perform when it comes to their handling of the comma head and CCB on the western side of the low. With such an intense SLP so close to the Cape and Islands, I wonder if we should see more than 1-2" of QPF. the issue here is the trend, not the fact that it went slightly east...at this rate, the GGEM may be right IMO, if the cape is in the game, all of SNE is in the game...we're talking about huge deviations in expected track (not just a 40 mile shift that means the difference between 6" and 15" for Boston), but a track that may result in clear skies from Chatham to Albany versus the potential for SN+ for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston-winter08 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 You'll be lucky to see a flake of synoptic snow if this east trend is for real 100% agree, the cape is now on the 12z EURO where most of SNE was at 00z...the trend itself is not a good sign, hopefully we can reverse it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 Positive Kev is back for now On the other hand at this point there is only one way for this to swing It seems to me everything is about as far east and late phased as it can be IF there is going to be any changes IF... it is back to the west especially give the GFS Individual ensemble members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Yeah... 10-12" here Seriously, SNH, CT Valley really could use a few mod events or a big hit... Yeah - there's a whole lot of us who are heading on 10 months with no event over 1". Pretty much the entire valley from Hartford to Brattleboro. Also large sections of the Hudson Valley. Most of the old timers i talk to in Greenfield say this has been one of the longest snow droughts they can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Well it seems the Euro has the southern system ok and the idea of the phase is good. But all those vortmaxes keeping the trof wider has fooked us. But eminently changeable at this time range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston-winter08 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 the fact that the NAM still doesn't even have this storm in its range gives me some hope, seeing as how i've seen that model alone waver among solutions up to 24 hours out (frame 4 of 15) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I said this too, as a call into the radio show last night: AND THAT PORTIONS OF THE EVOLVING UPSTREAM CONDITIONS ARE ONLY NOW ENTERING THE MORE DENSELY POPULATED OBSERVATIONAL NETWORK...WE WILL LIKELY SEE A LARGE REDUCTION IN THE SOLUTION ENVELOPE WITHIN THE NEXT 1-2 MODEL CYCLES...BEGINNING WITH THE 12Z CYCLE. I think it important because that relay is still not complete Yet, it has started, and it ain't off to a very good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Reading around some of the different threads, especially the winter complaint thread in OT, I just don't get some people. I fully understand being upset and all, I mean I think all of us in a way would be upset if nothing happened but some just take it to a whole new level, it's like everytime a model shows a massive storm some EXPECT that it will actually occur and are fully COUNTING on it to occur...shouldn't everyone of learned by now never to get fully 100% emotionally involved in what the models show in the medium or long range and to take the solutions cautiously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Well it seems the Euro has the southern system ok and the idea of the phase is good. But all those vortmaxes keeping the trof wider has fooked us. But eminently changeable at this time range. I suggest one more day to let all the players find their actual positions on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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