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Spring/Summer 2021 Banter/Complaint Thread


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Its the 10th anniversary of the major tornado outbreak that hit Oklahoma and surrounding areas as part of an epic outbreak sequence from the 21st to 26th. It was one of the most exciting tornado outbreaks I've ever followed with a near perfect synoptic setup that even Jim Tang approved of! The forgotten EF5 of the previous decade formed as  known as El Reno I. Other notable violent tornadoes included the Chickasha–Blanchard–Newcastle EF4 and Bradley–Washington–Goldsby EF4. The evening was very memorable as intense footage was being shown on TV as the media tends to latch on to any new juice related to the hot topic of the week. All hell started breaking loose as not only were violent supercells heading towards OKC metro, but new clusters were forming in the Dallas region and central KS. Of course nothing interesting like that day happens anymore, in the Plains.

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the forecast
becomes murkier as multiple mitigating factors in play that suggest
the widespread convective potential is lower across the forecast
area than previously thought. There are growing signs of a split in
the favored areas for rainfall and convection...with the MCS riding
the instability gradient into the lower Ohio and western Tennessee
Valleys by tonight while the second area focuses to the northwest of
the region across northern Illinois into northern Indiana and lower
Michigan as a small low level jet transports moisture and enhances
lift around the top of the 850mb low. This will potentially place
much of the forecast area in between the better instability and
moisture to the southwest and stronger forcing aloft to the north
and northwest through tonight. There are even hints of weak mid
level subsidence and ridging over the area which further muddies
widespread convective concerns.
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11 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said:

the forecast
becomes murkier as multiple mitigating factors in play that suggest
the widespread convective potential is lower across the forecast
area than previously thought. There are growing signs of a split in
the favored areas for rainfall and convection...with the MCS riding
the instability gradient into the lower Ohio and western Tennessee
Valleys by tonight while the second area focuses to the northwest of
the region across northern Illinois into northern Indiana and lower
Michigan as a small low level jet transports moisture and enhances
lift around the top of the 850mb low. This will potentially place
much of the forecast area in between the better instability and
moisture to the southwest and stronger forcing aloft to the north
and northwest through tonight. There are even hints of weak mid
level subsidence and ridging over the area which further muddies
widespread convective concerns.

Sad.  This is what typically happens here in Michigan though.  Warm sector cut off and pushed south by upstream MCS.  NW flow ridge-rider type events are the only good ones east of the Mississippi these days.  These big wound-up closed lows are usually garbage outside the plains and deep south.

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16 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said:

the forecast
becomes murkier as multiple mitigating factors in play that suggest
the widespread convective potential is lower across the forecast
area than previously thought. There are growing signs of a split in
the favored areas for rainfall and convection...with the MCS riding
the instability gradient into the lower Ohio and western Tennessee
Valleys by tonight while the second area focuses to the northwest of
the region across northern Illinois into northern Indiana and lower
Michigan as a small low level jet transports moisture and enhances
lift around the top of the 850mb low. This will potentially place
much of the forecast area in between the better instability and
moisture to the southwest and stronger forcing aloft to the north
and northwest through tonight. There are even hints of weak mid
level subsidence and ridging over the area which further muddies
widespread convective concerns.

Our mets are the best. They called this one. Looks like I cleared the tippy bucket for nothing. Literally nothing.

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43 minutes ago, bowtie` said:

Our mets are the best. They called this one. Looks like I cleared the tippy bucket for nothing. Literally nothing.

If the sun comes out there might be some low-top popups tomorrow afternoon under the cold pool.  Maybe a graupel shower.  More like early November weather.  This season has been so boring.  :(

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You guys inspired me to look this up.

There have been no confirmed tornadoes in Indiana so far this year.  We are threatening to make it through May without one, which has only happened 4 times -- 1950 (when tornado records were still sketchy), 1984, 2005 and 2010.

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9 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

You guys inspired me to look this up.

There have been no confirmed tornadoes in Indiana so far this year.  We are threatening to make it through May without one, which has only happened 4 times -- 1950 (when tornado records were still sketchy), 1984, 2005 and 2010.

In 2010 May was boring, but I thought June/July 2010 was active, at least along the Michigan/Indiana border.  I don't remember any big tornadoes though, just a couple really rocking derechos / QLCS type systems.  I think there were some more significant tornadoes in Wisconsin.

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1 hour ago, Hoosier said:

You guys inspired me to look this up.

There have been no confirmed tornadoes in Indiana so far this year.  We are threatening to make it through May without one, which has only happened 4 times -- 1950 (when tornado records were still sketchy), 1984, 2005 and 2010.

This is even crazier.sdate2021-01-01200000edate2021-05-27200000varcountphenomenav1TOsignificancev1Wcmapjetdpi100.thumb.png.a9dd2ccd592d8807b99cb118574f0fb7.png

 

Btw the 3 years listed? 2 of them 84 and 10 were very active in June in the region 

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This season has been pretty awful for Tornado Alley as well. Most of those reports in KS happened on Wednesday, and notice the complete dearth of tornado reports in OK.

There were the 2 weak rain-wrapped tornadoes that hit north Dallas last week, but aside from that, there have been no damaging wind reports this season and barely a handful of large hail reports (none of which IMBY, I might add) in the immediate DFW Metroplex.

 

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10 hours ago, Powerball said:

Since when have Alabama and Mississippi been desirable?

Having moved to Ohio from Texas I can say for certain that if either of those two places were included in a transfer I would have learned to deal with it and moved there just for the weather.  However, I was speaking of the sunbelt in general.  I can’t tolerate 6-8 months of cold and snow then a crap shoot for the other 4-6.  My ideal area would be NC or Texas again.  I literally had everyone in Texas that I worked with ask why Ohio, now I know why, people don’t move this far north unless they have to.

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