CheeselandSkies Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 6 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said: Nature has a way of balancing things out so I would be on the lookout for some extremely active years soon Every year I keep thinking that and every year it's more of this crap. Even the much-anticipated stretch in 2019 underproduced. Yes there was Dayton in this sub but most of the days turned out underwhelming compared to their ceiling. I was thinking Northern IL was primed for Rochelle 2.0 that day (and was actually chasing this time), but the surface winds veered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Climate change has ended real thunderstorm weather in the Great Lakes. Instead we have the perpetual Texas to Alabama monsoon with a dry block to the north. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, frostfern said: Climate change has ended real thunderstorm weather in the Great Lakes. Instead we have the perpetual Texas to Alabama monsoon with a dry block to the north. There will never be thunder again north of 40N. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoosier said: There will never be thunder again north of 40N. I notice there is now more thunder north of 45N. EML plume always heads for the arrowhead of Minnesota. Duluth is now a better severe weather spot. The screw zone is between 40 and 45, east of the Mississippi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 The real screw zone is imby and you can’t convince me otherwise 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Meltdowns in non-snow months, this sub is evolving 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Meltdowns in non-snow months, this sub is evolving needed some change.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 At least we can start heating the lake up proper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 there are lots of bad takes over the past month and I'm fully prepared to bump them all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 9 hours ago, frostfern said: I notice there is now more thunder north of 45N. EML plume always heads for the arrowhead of Minnesota. Duluth is now a better severe weather spot. The screw zone is between 40 and 45, east of the Mississippi. I take the lack of severe weather as a good sign for better snow. I don't have an exact study to back it up but I do know that the best severe weather of my life was about 1996-2002 when we were having mostly sub par winters. A notable increase in snowfall and decrease in severe weather has been seen over the last 2 decades. Probably one of the most notorious stretches of severe weather in our areas history was between 1953 and 1956. Tornadoes galore....sandwiched in with all mild winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Actually just had an actual thunderstorm 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXYankee Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 21 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: I take the lack of severe weather as a good sign for better snow. Yeah no thanks, I’d rather have a weekly tornado outbreak over more snow, we get enough of that already that won’t leave until almost May. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthIllinois Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Been keeping track of the Chicagoland weather for the past six months and comparing it with the listed averages as per the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. I've found that Feb-May were about 10-15 degrees colder than average, and now June is looking to be 10 degrees warmer than average. Basically, we got virtually zero nice weather this year, went straight from cold to hot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, NorthIllinois said: Been keeping track of the Chicagoland weather for the past six months and comparing it with the listed averages as per the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. I've found that Feb-May were about 10-15 degrees colder than average, and now June is looking to be 10 degrees warmer than average. Basically, we got virtually zero nice weather this year, went straight from cold to hot. February to May wasn't even close to 10 degrees below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 yeah, we had lots of nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthIllinois Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, Hoosier said: February to May wasn't even close to 10 degrees below average. Were you actually keeping track day by day and comparing it to the listed averages? I was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 in for the lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, NorthIllinois said: Were you actually keeping track day by day and comparing it to the listed averages? I was. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Just looking at summer a little more closely with my modelling method shows quite a variable summer with temps, and plenty of rain/thunder chances. Can't talk to the svr part for everyone, but the chances are there, especially my way. Edit: Added map for my thinking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 that's it, Hoosier has to officially pass his Mod position to NorthIllinois 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 ...and abandon all modeling for Brian D's MS Paint renderings. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Here's an approximation of February-May temps. Not even in the same area code as 10 below average in northern IL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Here's an approximation of February-May temps. Not even in the same area code as 10 below average in northern IL. It’s actually pretty impressive how much of the US managed below normal temperatures for a 4 month period. You don’t see that much anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 ^ Is that map relative to the new 1991-2020 normals? Would be interesting to see the same map, but vs. the 1961-1990 normals instead. In some areas, 1991-2020 is 2-4F higher than 1961-1990, due to a combination of background warming and UHI. I think the purples would become greens, and the greens would become yellows (in most areas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, beavis1729 said: ^ Is that map relative to the new 1991-2020 normals? Would be interesting to see the same map, but vs. the 1961-1990 normals instead. In some areas, 1991-2020 is 2-4F higher than 1961-1990, due to a combination of background warming and UHI. I think the purples would become greens, and the greens would become yellows (in most areas). Yes, they did switch over to 1991-2020 normals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 11 hours ago, Brian D said: Just looking at summer a little more closely with my modelling method shows quite a variable summer with temps, and plenty of rain/thunder chances. Can't talk to the svr part for everyone, but the chances are there, especially my way. Edit: Added map for my thinking. Yea. Your way. There's always thunderstorms in Minnesota in the summer. I grantee here will be below average precip and boring as hell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 I have to play video games with a good headset to experience thunderstorms. The real ones ended 10 to 15 years ago around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, Jonger said: I have to play video games with a good headset to experience thunderstorms. The real ones ended 10 to 15 years ago around here. Every once in a while there's a good one in late August or early September here. Spring and early summer has been dead for years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laferri2 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Jonger said: I have to play video games with a good headset to experience thunderstorms. The real ones ended 10 to 15 years ago around here. I haven't experienced a real thunderstorm since I moved to Macomb County, MI eleven years ago. I went to Michigan State from 02-07 and they had some awesome storms. For eleven years I've watched awesome storm systems roll off the lakes on the west side of the state and just absolutely die as soon as they hit the Oakland/Macomb county line. It's enough to make me think about buying a decent truck and spend a few weekends a summer chasing storms out on the west side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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