Spring Banter

[Bostonseminole]

 

 

4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I don't know, the media doesn't sway me. I get a vaccine for both my health and for my loved ones. There is enough information out there to weed through any fear mongering.

I hardly listen to the news, but you have to stay on top of the mood if you are trading stocks, so I have no choice but to listen to the crap.

[STILL N OF PIKE]

9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I don't know, the media doesn't sway me. I get a vaccine for both my health and for my loved ones. There is enough information out there to weed through any fear mongering.

I wasn't even referring to vaccinations. That's a whole other story lol. They seem overwhelming safe from all the data i have seen. That said there is no safety data over 6 months which should have folks cautiously concerned given there is no liability. I am by NO means saying that vaccinations aren't the right thing to do..i believe they are, but this is basically a giant phase 3 safety study that millions are part of right now and that is not hyperbole given the usual time lines involved in looking at safety data.

[WhitinsvilleWX]

5 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

.  No one really follows them anyway.  

A few Karen’s maybe

You haven't been to Boston, Cambridge or Brookline lately? 

Holy moly, all you see are masked people on the street. Its rare to see someone without one. Its a sea of faceless people as far as the eye can see.

[CoastalWx]

Just now, PhineasC said:

I stopped watching all political news. I don't follow any of it at this point. I never have any idea what Congress is up to.

You strike me as a little high strung lol. I honestly laugh at the news. The headlines from a local station around here love alliteration. I mean it's downright cheesy at times. This is why I enjoy some COVID or stock talk around here. I feel more in the know reading these threads at times compared to watching the news. 

[Brian5671]

I stopped watching most local newscasts years ago.   (most of that you can read online and you have places like this for weather)    I occassionally watch a national news broadcast at 6:30

[CoastalWx]

One thing I have realized over the past year: we are truly living in the dumbest time of our history( thank you Jim Murray from 98.5).  Common sense for whatever reason has gone completely out the window. This whole "if you aren't with us, your against us" policy that is being applied to everything is downright insane. I feel like common sense thinking is just a thing of the past. 

[WhitinsvilleWX]

3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

 The headlines from a local station around here love alliteration. I mean it's downright cheesy at times. 

Channel 7 was the worst for alliteration. I rarely watch the news anymore. Cable or local. I'll catch Harv at 10:20 on MeTV while I'm waiting for Hogans Heroes to come on, hoping its a Hochstetter of Burkhalter episode. 

[PhineasC]

12 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I don't know, the media doesn't sway me. I get a vaccine for both my health and for my loved ones. There is enough information out there to weed through any fear mongering.

Nothing wrong with making an informed choice. No one begrudges you for making a choice. I can tell you from the "refuser" side of the debate, none of us care if you get the jab. Feel free. It's wonderful and a remarkable achievement that such an effective vaccine has been made available so fast. Just don't mandate your choice for everyone else, is all we ask.

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

One thing I have realized over the past year: we are truly living in the dumbest time of our history( thank you Jim Murray from 98.5).  Common sense for whatever reason has gone completely out the window. This whole "if you aren't with us, your against us" policy that is being applied to everything is downright insane. I feel like common sense thinking is just a thing of the past. 

 

[snowman21]

1 minute ago, PhineasC said:

Nothing wrong with making an informed choice. No one begrudges you for making a choice. I can tell you from the "refuser" side of the debate, none of us care if you get the jab. Feel free. It's wonderful and a remarkable achievement that such an effective vaccine has been made available so fast. Just don't mandate your choice for everyone else, is all we ask.

The problem is not a government mandate, but a societal one. If airlines won't let you fly or stadiums won't let you in without your digital certificate proving vaccination, then what? At some point there are things we have to do that we don't like but are required to participate in a modern society.

[DomNH]

2 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Nothing wrong with making an informed choice. No one begrudges you for making a choice. I can tell you from the "refuser" side of the debate, none of us care if you get the jab. Feel free. It's wonderful and a remarkable achievement that such an effective vaccine has been made available so fast. Just don't mandate your choice for everyone else, is all we ask.

And on the other side I could not care less whether or not you get it. I don't understand the intense finger pointing that goes on now. It's not even if you're not with me you're against me. It's if you're not with me you're a POS. I hate it.

[PhineasC]

7 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

You strike me as a little high strung lol. I honestly laugh at the news. The headlines from a local station around here love alliteration. I mean it's downright cheesy at times. This is why I enjoy some COVID or stock talk around here. I feel more in the know reading these threads at times compared to watching the news. 

I don't find the news (which is incessantly beating a negative drum about social unrest and racism these days) to be very entertaining, but to each his own, I guess.

I have been sued over COVID policies already, as have several of my customers. Unfortunately, that has definitely created a "high-strung" environment for me and many other business owners who are concerned about what is coming next. We have zero liability protections from frivolous COVID-related lawsuits as we go back to "normal operations." There is a lot of money on the line here. I don't expect most to get this, that's fine.

 

 

[PhineasC]

Just now, snowman21 said:

The problem is not a government mandate, but a societal one. If airlines won't let you fly or stadiums won't let you in without your digital certificate proving vaccination, then what? At some point there are things we have to do that we don't like but are required to participate in a modern society.

Then you have to stop doing those things. I am not a fan of the pressure campaign some seem to want to force everyone (including kids) to get an emergency vaccine just so they can "participate in a modern society." That seems wrong.

[weatherwiz]

35 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:

I keep reading and hearing about "variants" plural, as if there are many and popping up every day. The only ones I've heard of is the UK B.1.1.7 and SA variants and I believe the UK one is the dominant one at this point. The problem is that the US is terrible at doing widespread sequencing to confirm what is actually present and where.

I think there are hundreds or even thousands of different strains but the ones you hear most commonly about are the ones which are said to more more contagious and in the case of the Brazilian variant, more deadly. But this is why you get some who test positive but never display symptoms b/c they likely had a strain that just wasn't potent...and this lead to the questions about whether those who are asymptomatic can be spreader or not.

The virus can mutate all it wants...so long as any of the mutations that develop aren't more contagious or deadly  and the ones that are more commonly discussed about are ones that fit these profiles. There is actually also a New York variant which is believed to be the #1 spreader here in CT. 

[CoastalWx]

Just now, PhineasC said:

I don't find the news (which is incessantly beating a negative drum about social unrest and racism these days) to be very entertaining, but to each his own, I guess.

I have been sued over COVID policies already, as have several of my customers. Unfortunately, that has definitely created a "high-strung" environment for me and many other business owners who are concerned about what is coming next. We have zero liability protections from frivolous COVID-related lawsuits as we go back to "normal operations." There is a lot of money on the line here. I don't expect most to get this, that's fine.

 

 

I get it, sorry you had to deal with it. It may go back what I was saying earlier about dumbest time in our history. 

[ORH_wxman]

9 minutes ago, WhitinsvilleWX said:

You haven't been to Boston, Cambridge or Brookline lately? 

Holy moly, all you see are masked people on the street. Its rare to see someone without one. Its a sea of faceless people as far as the eye can see.

Around here it's prob like 1 out of 3 outside walking I see with masks on (I'm not counting parking lots where people are entering and exiting buildings....I'm referring to people walking their dog or jogging, etc)

 

[dryslot]

53 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

everyone's ignoring most of the stuff here now (except masks indoors) example-  Grocery stores still have the one way stickers on the floor and 6 feet markers by the checkouts...worthless...

The local hannaford finally took down the coral that they had to get to the registers, Now you can go to anyone you choose instead of waiting in line to be told to which one to go too..........smh.

[powderfreak]

11 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

 

I have been sued over COVID policies already, as have several of my customers. Unfortunately, that has definitely created a "high-strung" environment for me and many other business owners who are concerned about what is coming next. We have zero liability protections from frivolous COVID-related lawsuits as we go back to "normal operations." There is a lot of money on the line here. I don't expect most to get this, that's fine.

 

 

Yeah I figured it was pretty personal for you as I don’t know anyone as passionate as you to discuss COVID on a daily basis.  There had to be something big at stake. Sorry dude.

[NorEastermass128]

4 minutes ago, dryslot said:

The local hannaford finally took down the coral that they had to get to the registers, Now you can go to anyone you choose instead of waiting in line to be told to which one to go too..........smh.

Ha...those have been gone around here since late last summer/early fall. 

[dryslot]

5 minutes ago, NorEastermass128 said:

Ha...those have been gone around here since late last summer/early fall. 

The arrows on the floor remain but i make it a point to go the opposite direction mainly because its lame with all folks wearing masks and i'm not walking down another aisle to walk up the next to get the item i'm looking for.

[Lava Rock]

54 minutes ago, snowman21 said:

No one ever paid attention to those stickers. Interesting idea at first, but after a week or two largely ignored, and stores at that time were more concerned with disinfecting carriages and checkout lines. I'll be curious to see how many businesses continue with the precautions in a month from now like restaurants with the plastic dividers, gyms with all of their PITA rules, etc.

CDC just announced some sort of message that says "stop the disinfectant theatrics".

[PhineasC]

4 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Yeah I figured it was pretty personal for you as I don’t know anyone as passionate as you to discuss COVID on a daily basis.  There had to be something big at stake. Sorry dude.

Did you know that there are many new laws and statutes on the books in states because of COVID? None of them have been fully tested in court so there is no precedence to say how they will be enforced. Many of those stimulus bills passed at the Federal and state levels were chock full of new laws and regulations like this. People, businesses, and the govt now have very broad power to do whatever they want in the name of "furthering public health and safety."

Here is one Stowe should look out for that we dealt with: if someone is removed from your place of business for whatever reason, they can later claim that they were removed from the premises because they raised a concern over other coworkers or patrons not wearing masks correctly, and that person can receive "whistleblower" protections and any action taken against them can be considered retaliation against a whistleblower. Not wearing a mask properly can be considered a "criminal act" that a person has a duty to blow the whistle on. They do not need to get COVID or even be at risk themselves at all.

This is basically the modern version of slipping on a banana peel and claiming an injury settlement, except there is no case law to cap damages and insurance policies do not cover COVID claims yet (perhaps never).

[Lava Rock]

22 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

I think there are hundreds or even thousands of different strains but the ones you hear most commonly about are the ones which are said to more more contagious and in the case of the Brazilian variant, more deadly. But this is why you get some who test positive but never display symptoms b/c they likely had a strain that just wasn't potent...and this lead to the questions about whether those who are asymptomatic can be spreader or not.

The virus can mutate all it wants...so long as any of the mutations that develop aren't more contagious or deadly  and the ones that are more commonly discussed about are ones that fit these profiles. There is actually also a New York variant which is believed to be the #1 spreader here in CT. 

variants are not the same as strains. There are genetic differences that can equate to antigenic differences that can impact degree of immunity.

[CoastalWx]

This seems fishy to me. Like we know masks don’t “stop” particles from passing through, but prevent more projectile spread. Agenda?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987720333028#b0245
 

 

[Brian5671]

26 minutes ago, dryslot said:

The local hannaford finally took down the coral that they had to get to the registers, Now you can go to anyone you choose instead of waiting in line to be told to which one to go too..........smh.

silly.   How exactly did that prevent the spread of covid?  Whole foods here still has it....

[dryslot]

Just now, Brian5671 said:

silly.   How exactly did that prevent the spread of covid?  Whole foods here still has it....

It didn't, That just falls under the "due to an overabundance of caution" umbrella.

[Brian5671]

I wonder if hot food/soup buffets will ever come back in supermarkets...granted it's been shown that COVID spread from surfaces is very low, but I wonder how many people would be willing to scoop a thing of potato salad into a plastic cup with a lid now?

[PhineasC]

Just now, dryslot said:

It didn't, That just falls under the "due to an overabundance of caution" umbrella.

"Safety first and foremost..."

A lot of folks have died over a statement like that taken to it's logical endpoint.

[Damage In Tolland]

2 minutes ago, mreaves said:

Do you actually know what the definition of socialism is?  I would think that private companies, deciding on their own, what type of rules they want to implement is actually at the very heart of capitalism and free enterprise.

I am referring to this idea that the government is going to mandate vaccine passports. Whether it’s the govt, sports teams, airlines ... whomever. It is a socialist concept . This is a free country. No one should be forced to prove they had Covid vaccine or be shunned if they chose not to . This is not communist China or Cuba.

[weathafella]

47 minutes ago, WhitinsvilleWX said:

You haven't been to Boston, Cambridge or Brookline lately? 

Holy moly, all you see are masked people on the street. Its rare to see someone without one. Its a sea of faceless people as far as the eye can see.

It’s insane actually!    During the day when people are out, I put my mask on as I leave my property and let it dangle around my chin while walking the dog.   People fully masked glare at me.   I avoid engaging anyone but if I did I’d ask why.  If they said it was the rules.   I’d ask if they ever exceeded the speed limit or parked too long for their meter.   I love taking my long walk at night after dark when the only people out are not wearing masks.   That’s what I loved when we were in FL.  Indoors in public spaces people masked.   But no one does outdoors except people who just arrived from NYC or Boston....lol.   One thing is on a chilly night people often mask to keep their face warm.  My wife is like that when it’s cold out.