HimoorWx Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: Bob Dylan was old school rap! If you listen to Like A Rolling Stone, the cadence of parts of it sound very much like a precursor to rap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, PhineasC said: Seems like the kind of guy who flips immediately from whining about drought to whining about flooded gardens and rotting roots. Naw. All Stein, all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 This 2nd dose is kicking my ass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 minute ago, dendrite said: This 2nd dose is kicking my ass. Rectally taken? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 This 2nd dose is kicking my ass. Wonder if some of these harsher side effects are all due to the high vax dose and/or the carrier lipids. Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Rectally taken?Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Rectally taken? That was 100.8. Then I tried the mouth. 2 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, dendrite said: That was 100.8. Then I tried the mouth. ATM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiwara79 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 well, look at this. suicides decreased across most countries during the heart of the lockdowns last spring. united states saw about a 10% decrease. one of the largest drops in 20 years in fact. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/04/24/surprisingly-suicide-has-become-rarer-during-the-pandemic i fully expect a rash of "wait 6 more months" or some other anecdotal stories to counter-refute this, but suffice to say -- another narrative has been busted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, fujiwara79 said: "wait 6 more months" or some other anecdotal stories to counter-refute this, but suffice to say -- another narrative has been busted. to open up and flatten the curve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Just now, White Rain said: Who created this narrative in your view and what does it mean? Should we encourage lock downs in pandemics to decrease suicide rates? Locking people in their homes is good for their health? FWIW, increased suicides from the pandemic was the prevailing view from medical experts, not some conspiracy theory. He is a recluse I think. Suicides are a lagging indicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Lava Rock said: Wonder if some of these harsher side effects are all due to the high vax dose and/or the carrier lipids. Interesting question. My first thought was the high dose of mRNA in the Moderna vax compared to Pfizer. The anecdotal info I saw was that Moderna caused the most issue after the second dose. But, I'm starting to see the Pfizer vax with just as many anecdotal stories. The fever and other side effects after the second dose scream neutrophil involvement and cytokine release so it could be a localized poly effect from the liposome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: ATM? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 minute ago, WhitinsvilleWX said: I’ve never seen it done with a thermometer before so maybe dendy can show us pics... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: Bob Dylan was old school rap! Youtube Bobby Darin, "Me and Mr. Hohner" (1969) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I am very disturbed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, PhineasC said: He is a recluse I think. Suicides are a lagging indicator. How do we know that suicides are a lagging indicator? Is this based on all our prior experiences with pandemic lockdowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, fujiwara79 said: well, look at this. suicides decreased across most countries during the heart of the lockdowns last spring. united states saw about a 10% decrease. one of the largest drops in 20 years in fact. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/04/24/surprisingly-suicide-has-become-rarer-during-the-pandemic i fully expect a rash of "wait 6 more months" or some other anecdotal stories to counter-refute this, but suffice to say -- another narrative has been busted. Suicides were down compared to the two years before. I was told everyone was jumping off bridges everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, klw said: How do we know that suicides are a lagging indicator? Is this based on all our prior experiences with pandemic lockdowns? Google science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, klw said: How do we know that suicides are a lagging indicator? Is this based on all our prior experiences with pandemic lockdowns? Phineass knows it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 All I want for my bday is good wishes from @PhineasC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, dendrite said: That was 100.8. Then I tried the mouth. It always pays to go with what’s dominant. As always ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Scheduled for me first dose next Friday ... I know 6 people that are completed. And everyone of them experienced different severity, ranging from nothing to couched and pissed off for two days, but all report no affect by the first of the two. Who knows - based upon that it seems it's an utter crap shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 My uncle became part of a rare group today. Had his second shot 4 weeks ago and tested positive today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I don't buy at all that suicides were down. Unless there are some peer reviewed studies with hardcore statistics that is a crock of crap. Numerous stories of people calling hotlines for help and not being able to get help and ending up taking their lives. Hell for those who had been doing meetings (such as AA, or psychologists, therapists, etc) there were no in-person meetings (obviously across some parts of the country where restrictions were less there were), or it was impossible to get a meeting. for those with mental health conditions this has been absolute hell and torture. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: I don't buy at all that suicides were down. Unless there are some peer reviewed studies with hardcore statistics that is a crock of crap. Numerous stories of people calling hotlines for help and not being able to get help and ending up taking their lives. Hell for those who had been doing meetings (such as AA, or psychologists, therapists, etc) there were no in-person meetings (obviously across some parts of the country where restrictions were less there were), or it was impossible to get a meeting. for those with mental health conditions this has been absolute hell and torture. Here is one but it is from just one state (Mass) and early on in the pandemic. I would not take much from it. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2775359 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 And this study from Japan suggests a rise after a decline https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-020-01042-z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 As you (and others) have mentioned it will take a while to gather the data. Can’t call it either way yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 My uncle became part of a rare group today. Had his second shot 4 weeks ago and tested positive todayI know these types of stories are rare, but I've heard more breakthrough stories lately, mainly from msm. I try not to watch but it's their new click bait fear stories. Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Just now, Lava Rock said: I know these types of stories are rare, but I've heard more breakthrough stories lately, mainly from msm. I try not to watch but it's their new click bait fear stories. Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk Yeah... it’s definitely a weird move to harp on the minute amount of break through infections. And to put a sinister spin on it like this wasn’t supposed to happen. People who do get the breakthrough almost never get sick enough to require hospitalization. My uncle is in his late 60s and said he has a stuffy nose, that’s it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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