Spring Banter

[weatherwiz]

Just now, powderfreak said:

Why not wake up an hour before work then?  Get a shower, a nice breakfast, watch some SportsCenter.  Do your normal routine then transition into work.

But I get it, everyone is different.  Some just need the physical act of going to work to feel productive, even if you are doing the same tasks in a different building.

I absolutely would love to do that...wake up an hour before work, eat a nice solid breakfast, do a few other things but just too exhausted. I'm currently in the process of finding a primary care doctor b/c it's been so long but I sleep like dog crap at night...wake up every few hours. Sometimes I fall back to sleep right away but then other times I'll wake up like 3:30 AM wide awake and then I fall asleep like an hour before it's time to get up. I always wake up more exhausted then when I go to sleep. When I work at home now I usually get up like 7:50 and when I go in around 6:10. I think when I move closer to work that will help a ton. 

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

2 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Why not wake up an hour before work then?  Get a shower, a nice breakfast, watch some SportsCenter.  Do your normal routine then transition into work.

But I get it, everyone is different.  Some just need the physical act of going to work to feel productive, even if you are doing the same tasks in a different building.

Yea that’s wierd. I get up at the same time but eat a healthier bfast, hit the gym, maybe hit the grocery store...get some to do‘s done before work I otherwise would barely have time for after.

[weatherwiz]

3 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Have a family and we’ll revisit this post.

I know people who have kids and don't like working from home either

[PhineasC]

Just now, powderfreak said:

Why not wake up an hour before work then?  Get a shower, a nice breakfast, watch some SportsCenter.  Do your normal routine then transition into work.

But I get it, everyone is different.  Some just need the physical act of going to work to feel productive, even if you are doing the same tasks in a different building.

Some also need the oversight and direction...

I have found that employees do abuse WFH sometimes. Often, this topic brings out this idea that WFH is a panacea that always works out and those who want to be at the office must be suck-ups or bad at their jobs. Bosses who are wary of WFH must be micromanagers who don't trust their teams. That's an oversimplification. Good bosses love employees who can easily WFH and crush their tasks. It gives you a great carrot to retain them and keep them from leaving to go elsewhere. 

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

6 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

I know people who have kids and don't like working from home either

Barely anyone with young kids do. 

https://www.netigate.net/articles/human-resources/working-from-home-survey-results-on-the-new-normal/

https://www.pwc.com/us/en/library/covid-19/us-remote-work-survey.html

[HIPPYVALLEY]

And when you really want to get out of that WFH meeting: 

Zoom Escaper is a tool to help you escape Zoom meetings and other videoconferencing scenarios. It allows you to self-sabotage your audio stream, making your presence unbearable to others.

https://zoomescaper.com
 

 

[kdxken]

2 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

I know people who have kids and don't like working from home either

I hated it. This was back in the day when most people would die to work from home.

[HoarfrostHubb]

I do prefer to differentiate my home and work life... although I have been doing more work at home after hours/at night... I also don't mind my commute, probably because it is pretty short (30 minutes) with not much traffic most days.

[PhineasC]

Yeah, no meetings! Work from home! We need nap pods! I have been here for six months boss, time for a raise! You didn't give me any tasks today so I just took the day off,  boss! Thanks for the raise boss, maybe I will stay another year! Sorry, I took another job today boss! Bye!

[ORH_wxman]

I liked my previous setup better where I was going into the office 1 day per week. Maybe 2. 

The problem with going 100% remote is that our meetings are a lot less efficient...and I have a lot of meeting being in project management. We used to schedule most meetings when we were all in office together (usually one day per week).

 So i personally think the “mostly work from home” model is better than 100%. 

[Supernovice]

2 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Barely anyone with young kids do. 

https://www.netigate.net/articles/human-resources/working-from-home-survey-results-on-the-new-normal/

I have 2 kids under 4 and absolutely love working from home. My oldest- never saw him for the first year of his life. I was out the door before he got up, and home well after he went to bed. I changed jobs pre Covid to correct this but...now...the extra time at home is invaluable. Coming down for lunch, putting them down for a nap...just coming down to say hello. It has been a game changer. 

[weatherwiz]

2 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Barely anyone with young kids do. 

https://www.netigate.net/articles/human-resources/working-from-home-survey-results-on-the-new-normal/

The studies that are going to continue coming out about working from home are going to be extremely interesting. I certainly see alot of positives to be able to work from home...hell, I forget when it was (maybe early summer) but in my hour lunch break I took a shower, got blood drawn for a blood test, and got lunch all in 50 minutes. But to work from home on a permanent basis...IDK. I don't think I could do it or would like it...but I'm sure there are people who absolutely love it. 

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

Just now, ORH_wxman said:

I liked my previous setup better where I was going into the office 1 day per week. Maybe 2. 

The problem with going 100% remote is that our meetings are a lot less efficient...and I have a lot of meeting being in project management. We used to schedule most meetings when we were all in office together (usually one day per week).

 So i personally think the “mostly work from home” model is better than 100%. 

Ideally, I’d prefer 3 days wfh 2 days office. Agree.

[powderfreak]

1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

I liked my previous setup better where I was going into the office 1 day per week. Maybe 2. 

The problem with going 100% remote is that our meetings are a lot less efficient...and I have a lot of meeting being in project management. We used to schedule most meetings when we were all in office together (usually one day per week).

 So i personally think the “mostly work from home” model is better than 100%. 

Agreed and that makes sense.  Seems many are going that route.  That would be my personal preference if in that situation.  A couple days to connect personally in a team setting, but also have concrete tasks and jobs to accomplish before the next gathering.  It’s a good compromise as a company too... less office space as you just need enough to accommodate a given team on any day and not the full staff. 

[HoarfrostHubb]

I really want snow days back next year...and snow

[WhitinsvilleWX]

10 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

And when you really want to get out of that WFH meeting: 

self-sabotage your audio stream, making your presence unbearable to others.

https://zoomescaper.com
 

 

Just pull a Toobin. That will self sabotage pretty well.

[HIPPYVALLEY]

2 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

I really want snow days back next year...and snow

Greenfield gave 3 to the kids this year which was awesome!   

[kdxken]

7 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Ideally, I’d prefer 3 days wfh 2 days office. Agree.

Flip it.

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

Just now, kdxken said:

Flip it.

Flip this:

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

4 minutes ago, kdxken said:

Flip it.

But yea...it should be flexible where not everyone needs to do it the same way. If someone wants to be in the office 5 days, fine. 

[weatherwiz]

I thought the best part of working from home last summer was going to be easier storm chasing...especially living a 2 minute drive from BDL...BUT WE DIDN'T GET CRAP last summer for thunderstorms outside of the mid-August event. It was a very disappointing summer last year in terms of convection here. That was the only reason I loved working 6-3...I could get done working in time to chase...but we couldn't get crap. 

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

Work from home will stop the minute there is a whole scale reduction in productivity across the board.

My buddy does accounting/tax work and he figured he’d be work from home pretty much from now on. The place he works for is bringing people back starting next month a few days a week, and plans to have everyone back full time by the summer.

Most people just move their mouse every 15 minutes to remain “active” and I guess that wasn’t cutting it.

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

1 minute ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Work from home will stop the minute there is a whole scale reduction in productivity across the board.

My buddy does accounting/tax work and he figured he’d be work from home pretty much from now on. The place he works for is bringing people back starting next month a few days a week, and plans to have everyone back full time by the summer.

Most people just move their mouse every 15 minutes to remain “active” and I guess that wasn’t cutting it.

Lol. Those people aren’t productive in the office either. Get rid of them.

[Ginx snewx]

1 hour ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

It does. It’s a win from every angle.

Unless you are a person who profits off of commuters. From Restaurants to Bodega to the hot dog stand

[PhineasC]

WFH is not good for junior employees who have not developed good work habits. It robs them of valuable networking time and the chance to watch more senior employees in action. It's actually pretty unfair to them to force them into a strictly WFH environment right out of the gate. They may think it's a good thing to have that much freedom at first, but it usually isn't.

And LOL at the "just fire them" line. Clearly no one here is an employer who has been sued for wrongful termination after they "just fired someone" for not doing their job. WFH also complicates this issue more as well. I have lived this. It's not so simple to fire someone.

This topic isn't as straightforward as some here are making it, but I get that some have a bit of a socialist bent and see employers all as capitalistic fat cats out to screw the working man. Life sure is simple to some folks.

[PhineasC]

There is definitely a generational gap here. Millennials are known for having basically zero loyalty to their employer and being ready to jump at the drop of a hat for even a tiny raise. I could see how someone who views himself as a mercenary wouldn't care about actual team building because he plans to leave within 6 months. He would be content to never see any of his coworkers. People should remember it's a two-way street, however. Don't cry when your employer suddenly drops you like it's hot and upgrades to the guy who covers your tasks and still comes into the office to gel with the team. It would be silly for the employer to pick the WFH guy over that type of person.

[WxWatcher007]

 

18 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

I thought the best part of working from home last summer was going to be easier storm chasing...especially living a 2 minute drive from BDL...BUT WE DIDN'T GET CRAP last summer for thunderstorms outside of the mid-August event. It was a very disappointing summer last year in terms of convection here. That was the only reason I loved working 6-3...I could get done working in time to chase...but we couldn't get crap. 

The thing I like about chasing tropical is that usually you have a sense of something 5-10 days before gametime. I've gotten good enough sniffing out potential that I can reshape my calendar one or two weeks out and put in notice to take time off about 5-7 days out. Still tough because the peak of the season falls during our peak season, so my trips end up being quick turnaround, but it does make planning a lot easier. Quite a bit harder for blizzards and even more for LES, but still workable. 

[mreaves]

38 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

I liked my previous setup better where I was going into the office 1 day per week. Maybe 2. 

The problem with going 100% remote is that our meetings are a lot less efficient...and I have a lot of meeting being in project management. We used to schedule most meetings when we were all in office together (usually one day per week).

 So i personally think the “mostly work from home” model is better than 100%. 

That’s where I land too. The biggest thing, for me, is flexibility.  I really liked the fact that I didn’t have to get up at 5:00 am and shovel the driveway and drive on crappy roads to get to work. Our prior wfh policy was so inflexible that I never bothered doing it.  However, collaboration can be more difficult. I think a split week would be a great compromise and work well for most. 

[Ginx snewx]

5 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

There is definitely a generational gap here. Millennials are known for having basically zero loyalty to their employer and being ready to jump at the drop of a hat for even a tiny raise. I could see how someone who views himself as a mercenary wouldn't care about actual team building because he plans to leave within 6 months. He would be content to never see any of his coworkers. People should remember it's a two-way street, however. Don't cry when your employer suddenly drops you like it's hot and upgrades to the guy who covers your tasks and still comes into the office to gel with the team. It would be silly for the employer to pick the WFH guy over that type of person.

Loyalty gets you nothing however. Most companies only see numbers not humans. Corporate America run by hedge funds and greed has ruined any sense of family and loyalty in many businesses. I don't blame people for moving on.

[weatherwiz]

1 minute ago, WxWatcher007 said:

 

The thing I like about chasing tropical is that usually you have a sense of something 5-10 days before gametime. I've gotten good enough sniffing out potential that I can reshape my calendar one or two weeks out and put in notice to take time off about 5-7 days out. Still tough because the peak of the season falls during our peak season, so my trips end up being quick turnaround, but it does make planning a lot easier. Quite a bit harder for blizzards and even more for LES, but still workable. 

I would certainly love to chase a hurricane some day...but after almost dying with Earl I may re-think that lol.