Hailstoned Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 On 3/29/2021 at 7:10 AM, TwoDogNight said: SREC is replaced by SMART, right? Still SREC on my account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Oopsie J&J. 15 million doses need to be tossed I guess one of their plants was not yet authorized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Wife and a daughter got COVID, daughter recovered in 3 days, wife is miserable but improving slowly. She is on day 6. No symptoms for me but will get tested Saturday. Strange virus, it spread quick with little incubation period and everyone we know in our cluster had different symptoms.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Oopsie J&J. 15 million doses need to be tossed I guess one of their plants was not yet authorized Ouch. I have always said my concern is almost all about the manufacturing side versus the "science." Corners can be cut in manufacturing in the rush to be first and claim marketshare. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Just now, Bostonseminole said: Wife and a daughter got COVID, daughter recovered in 3 days, wife is miserable but improving slowly. She is on day 6. No symptoms for me but will get tested Saturday. Strange virus, it spread quick with little incubation period and everyone we know in our cluster had different symptoms. . The list of COVID symptoms is comically long and includes many things people randomly wake up with all the time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 The list of COVID symptoms is comically long and includes many things people randomly wake up with all the time.It was mostly the common stuff, but if you assume the cluster all got the same variant, its just interestingWife - ached, fatigue, sore throatDaughter - fever, dizziness and coughFriend - cough fatigueFriend - sore throat Friend - coughAnyway just found it interesting . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Just now, Bostonseminole said: It was mostly the common stuff, but if you assume the cluster all got the same variant, its just interesting Wife - ached, fatigue, sore throat Daughter - fever, dizziness and cough Friend - cough fatigue Friend - sore throat Friend - cough Anyway just found it interesting . This virus is a great mimic, for sure. Makes it even harder to pin down spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Hoosier said: May be some of the first documented instances of fully vaccinated people being hospitalized in the United States? Still, you greatly, greatly cut your odds of needing to be hospitalized if you get vaccinated. Over 100 fully vaccinated people contract COVID-19 in Washington state, officials say Most cases were patients who experienced only mild symptoms, if any, according to a press release from the Washington State Department ofHealth. However, at least eight people with breakthrough cases have been hospitalized. The Washington State Department of Health is also investigating two potential breakthrough cases where the individuals died. Both patients were over 80 years old and suffered from underlying health issues. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/100-fully-vaccinated-people-contract-covid-19-washington/story?id=76784838 100 out of 1.2 million who were fully vaccinated in Washington. That’s 0.1% I like how you left that part of the article out of your snippet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 hours ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Just got #2. My horn growth is a bit stunted Contact your doctor if your horn lasts more than 4 hours. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitinsvilleWX Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Contact your doctor if your horn lasts more than 4 hours. Or if it falls off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 I'm still debating if I should get the shot. I want to go to baseball games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRTA22 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Got covid now. Body chills, sweating, sinus pressure and mild headache with a slight cough. Also extreme fatigue The first symptom i noticed was the sinus pressure. The fatigue is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bch2014 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, PhineasC said: Ouch. I have always said my concern is almost all about the manufacturing side versus the "science." Corners can be cut in manufacturing in the rush to be first and claim marketshare. I mean, doesn’t this suggest a robust QC process that catches issues, rather than a manufacturer that is cutting corners? J&J is doing everything by the book-there are drug manufacturing issues all the time-just not usually with the entire world watching. AZ is the manufacturer that seems to be the shadiest of any. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Getting back to the israel isn’t like us argument....we have many similarities. 1. A sizable swath of anti mask anti vax people 2. Broad skepticism of the government 3. Youthful disdain for any mitigation 4. A lot of racial diversity and economic imbalance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 minute ago, bch2014 said: I mean, doesn’t this suggest a robust QC process that catches issues, rather than a manufacturer that is cutting corners? J&J is doing everything by the book-there are drug manufacturing issues all the time-just not usually with the entire world watching. Good point. Maybe the take is they are on top of things and achieving strong quality control. These companies want profits but I do believe they want high quality. Their desire to avoid negative quality and PR outweighs their desire to cut corners. I think they are on the ball overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, bch2014 said: I mean, doesn’t this suggest a robust QC process that catches issues, rather than a manufacturer that is cutting corners? J&J is doing everything by the book-there are drug manufacturing issues all the time-just not usually with the entire world watching. AZ is the manufacturer that seems to be the shadiest of any. The factory (in Baltimore of all places) made a major error and mixed up ingredients between two vaccines... https://fox40.com/news/national-and-world-news/15-million-jj-vaccine-doses-lost-due-to-factory-error-report-says/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Good point. Maybe the take is they are on top of things and achieving strong quality control. These companies want profits but I do believe they want high quality. Their desire to avoid negative quality and PR outweighs their desire to cut corners. I think they are on the ball overall. That's one way of looking at it. They made a major mistake that could have really hurt people. Glad it was caught. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Bostonseminole said: Wife and a daughter got COVID, daughter recovered in 3 days, wife is miserable but improving slowly. She is on day 6. No symptoms for me but will get tested Saturday. Strange virus, it spread quick with little incubation period and everyone we know in our cluster had different symptoms. . I found out today one of our contractors had it recently and went deaf! Never heard of that as a symptom before. Hope his ears come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bch2014 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, PhineasC said: The factory (in Baltimore of all places) made a major error and mixed up ingredients between two vaccines... https://fox40.com/news/national-and-world-news/15-million-jj-vaccine-doses-lost-due-to-factory-error-report-says/ I’m aware of that-I guess what I’m saying is given that all J&J doses given thus far have been from the Netherlands, it’s not as if someone has been injected with a faulty vaccine. As long as issues are caught before the product is “consumed,” I don’t see an issue. I work for a large CPG company and before we bring a new copacker aboard, there are always test runs and errors that are made during those tests-Nobody would accuse of food poisoning though-because the products are never released to retailers! Agree with PF that the incentives to not producing a faulty product are far greater than pushing it out faster. Heck, these vaccines aren’t even all that profitable for these drug companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, SJonesWX said: 100 out of 1.2 million who were fully vaccinated in Washington. That’s 0.1% I like how you left that part of the article out of your snippet My main intent with that post was the hospitalizations. Anyone following this even a little bit knows that the vaccines aren't 100% at preventing illness, but the trial data did indicate no hospitalizations. Now we have 8 of those in WA. Though like Phin said, the need for hospitalization is a bit subjective and it would be interesting to know if these hospitalizations were a borderline call or if those people are gravely ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, MJO812 said: I'm still debating if I should get the shot. I want to go to baseball games why not get it? What are you worried will happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: why not get it? What are you worried will happen? Hmmmm.. how about Alzheimer’s, dimentia or the myriad of other possible side effects studies are showing? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said: Hmmmm.. how about Alzheimer’s, dimentia or the myriad of other possible side effects studies are showing? How about getting COVID instead and dying? How about helping the country get to herd immunity so we can get back to living? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bch2014 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: How about getting COVID instead and dying? How about helping the country get to herd immunity so we can get back to living? Alzheimer’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: How about getting COVID instead and dying? How about helping the country get to herd immunity so we can get back to living? There’s many many folks that will take their chances with Covid over far worse long term effects. To each their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, bch2014 said: Alzheimer’s? I havent seen any studies on that...anything credible that's not from anti vaxx website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: There’s many many folks that will take their chances with Covid over far worse long term effects. To each their own how can anyone know what these "Far worse long term effects" are LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, Brian5671 said: how can anyone know what these "Far worse long term effects" are LOL In fairness, there are plenty of people talking about "long term effects" from COVID of which there is no proof either. Plenty of unfounded fear to go around. That said, if you are considering the vaccine at all, you probably should just get it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: I havent seen any studies on that...anything credible that's not from anti vaxx website? Well then you are not doing your due diligence. Maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not. At least do some research. It’s not hard to find 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Well then you are not doing your due diligence. Maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not. At least do some research. It’s not hard to find https://www.contagionlive.com/view/gene-linked-between-alzheimer-s-disease-and-covid-19 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.beingpatient.com/vaccines-alzheimers-prevention/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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