BuffaloWeather Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 GSB Cities The 2020 - 2021 Snow Season Normal Average to Date This Time Last Season Normal Seasons Average All Time Season Snowfall Record Binghamton 84.5 57.1 58.5 83.4 135.2 inches (2016 - 2017) Buffalo 65.4 72.4 56.5 94.7 199.4 inches (1976 - 1977) Syracuse 57.0 92.4 64.0 123.8 192.1 inches (1992 - 1993) Rochester 55.1 70.5 77.4 99.5 161.7 inches (1959 - 1960) Albany 50.2 42.4 41.2 60.2 112.5 inches (1970 - 1971) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: GSB Cities The 2020 - 2021 Snow Season Normal Average to Date This Time Last Season Normal Seasons Average All Time Season Snowfall Record Binghamton 84.5 57.1 58.5 83.4 135.2 inches (2016 - 2017) Buffalo 65.4 72.4 56.5 94.7 199.4 inches (1976 - 1977) Syracuse 57.0 92.4 64.0 123.8 192.1 inches (1992 - 1993) Rochester 55.1 70.5 77.4 99.5 161.7 inches (1959 - 1960) Albany 50.2 42.4 41.2 60.2 112.5 inches (1970 - 1971) Out of if the “Big 3” Buf, Roc and SYR I think Buff has the best chance to achieve normal. I’m also beginning to wonder if SYR average is about to go down. That 123seems like it will be tough to maintain going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Thinksnow18 said: Out of if the “Big 3” Buf, Roc and SYR I think Buff has the best chance to achieve normal. I’m also beginning to wonder if SYR average is about to go down. That 123seems like it will be tough to maintain going forward. https://www.tsforecast.com/seasonalsnowfall.html Syracuse has been killing it the last 30 years. It seems the previous 40 the average was much less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Thinksnow18 said: Out of if the “Big 3” Buf, Roc and SYR I think Buff has the best chance to achieve normal. I’m also beginning to wonder if SYR average is about to go down. That 123seems like it will be tough to maintain going forward. Why would that be? Other than a couple below avg seasons affecting the long term avg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 SYR average from 1950-1980 was 110.2" 1960-1990 was 109.13" 1970-2000 was 121.3" 1980-2010 was 128.4" 1990-2020 was 123.8" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Some goodies on the euro..Few snow chances over the next 8 days verbatim.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Syrmax said: Why would that be? Other than a couple below avg seasons affecting the long term avg? Global warming leading to less arctic intrusions and less NW flow. It's a valid hypothesis TBH. The same can be said for all areas that rely on LES to get yearly averages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 Did SYR ever move their reporting station in the last 70 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 SYR was a snowbelt for the 2000s averaging 134" a year. 2001-2002 59.4 2002-2003 153.2 2003-2004 181.3 2004-2005 136.2 2005-2006 124.6 2006-2007 140.2 2007-2008 109.1 2008-2009 149.6 2009-2010 106.2 2010-2011 179.4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 Actually 1990-2000 was even more at 140.2" 1991-1992 166.9 1992-1993 192.1 1993-1994 163.8 1994-1995 66.9 1995-1996 170.9 1996-1997 131.1 1997-1998 134.7 1998-1999 98.3 1999-2000 85.8 2000-2001 191.9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 Between 1990-2010 their average was 137.1". Even without global warming, statistically (unless reporting station moved) they are due for a regression. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Did SYR ever move their reporting station in the last 70 years? I believe in 1949 the official reporting station was moved from downtown to the Syracuse airport. The airport is about 6 or 7 miles north of the city closer to the traditional snow belt area. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I don't know what the flip has happened to Syracuse over the past 2 years. Seems it does everything not to snow here. Interesting note on the radar being goofy again...just like with that early February storm. The "heavier" returns move over us and it practically shuts down. The weaker returns move over and it's back to light snow. These easterly winds really seem to play havoc with the upper levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Between 1990-2010 their average was 137.1". Even without global warming, statistically (unless reporting station moved) they are due for a regression. Well...regression doesn't HAVE to be 50 t0 80 inch winters"... they could be a bit more generous. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 Also, I forgot to factor in the X factor in Tughill moving to central NY. That is probably by far the most important factor statistically speaking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, BuffaloWeather said: Also, I forgot to factor in the X factor in Tughill moving to central NY. That is probably by far the most important factor statistically speaking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Also, I forgot to factor in the X factor in Tughill moving to central NY. That is probably by far the most important factor statistically speaking. I love that I laugh at all of these jokes now... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Where else have you lived? We need to do a statistical analysis to see if their snowfall was below normal while you lived there. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Well he has killed the tug and surrounding areas for a minimum of 5 years.. Watch how carols numbers have progressively gone down.. This year is even worse lol Soon the tug will be the new syracuse.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Muskegon, Michigan for the past decade before moving here. Their average has gone down nearly 30 inches since 30 years ago...this especially happened while I lived there. LOL Shifting snow: Long-term trends show lake-effect has changed in recent decades | wzzm13.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Some nice LE?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, 96blizz said: I love that I laugh at all of these jokes now... Haha! I'm embarrassed that you were taking them seriously! lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Muskegon, Michigan for the past decade before moving here. Their average has gone down nearly 30 inches a year since 30 years ago...this especially happened while I lived there. LOL Shifting snow: Long-term trends show lake-effect has changed in recent decades | wzzm13.com Those are some insane stats for Muskegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Snowing light to moderate ATM accumulation is confined to the snow already OTG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Those are some insane stats for Muskegon. I know, right!?! Crazy. They get most of their heaviest lake effect snow from a SW flow in front of cold clippers...and clipper patterns have greatly been missing this century. We've had more of these cutters up into the lakes which have caused more of a NW flow, which tends to miss them just to the south and clam Holland and Allegan...while you guys in Buffalo are on the other end getting the SW flow there. In the meantime, that SW flow is KILLING lake effect here in Syracuse...while we need more of that NW/WNW flow here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Muskegon, Michigan for the past decade before moving here. Their average has gone down nearly 30 inches a year since 30 years ago...this especially happened while I lived there. LOL Shifting snow: Long-term trends show lake-effect has changed in recent decades | wzzm13.com The people of Muskegon want to give you the key to the city... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: I know, right!?! Crazy. They get most of their heaviest lake effect snow from a SW flow in front of cold clippers...and clipper patterns have greatly been missing this century. We've had more of these cutters up into the lakes which have caused more of a NW flow, which tends to miss them just to the south and clam Holland and Allegan...while you guys in Buffalo are on the other end getting the SW flow there. In the meantime, that SW flow is KILLING lake effect here in Syracuse...while we need more of that NW/WNW flow here. We haven't exactly been killing it in Buffalo on SW flow. We've been far below average for 2 straight season too. We've had many terrible seasons the last decade including only 36" and 58" in back to back seasons from 2011-2013 and then again with 55" and 76" from 2015-2017. Our average was 78" for those 6 years. One could argue we've had it worst then Roc and Syr. https://www.weather.gov/buf/BuffaloSnow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloWeather said: We haven't exactly been killing it in Buffalo on SW flow. We've been far below average for 2 straight season too. We've had many terrible seasons the last decade including only 36" and 58" in back to back seasons from 2011-2013 and then again with 55" and 76" from 2015-2017. https://www.weather.gov/buf/BuffaloSnow Wow, that is bad too. The biggest factor there is the lack of COLD coming in with those winds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Muskegon, Michigan for the past decade before moving here. Their average has gone down nearly 30 inches since 30 years ago...this especially happened while I lived there. LOL Shifting snow: Long-term trends show lake-effect has changed in recent decades | wzzm13.com Would be interesting to see temp trends for that area to see if it actually correlates to their postulated reasons for the snowfall changes. I'm assuming they will but would be interesting to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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