Newman Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, hazwoper said: Has nothing to do with sun angle in this case. Good lord No clue what you're talking about. I just said it's 27F and not icy but wet...that's it. Sun angle plays a part till nightfall... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcane21 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, The Iceman said: No it isn't. That’s not a skill score graph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 If the freezing rain comes down too heavy, however, you won't see as much accrual. Those big rain drops will require a lot more energy to freeze compared to smaller drizzle drops. Also, you can't forget about the latent heat aspect of the rain turning from liquid to ice on contact. That is essentially why its so hard to get significant icing events sometimes. Because the surface naturally warms as the rain transitions in state from liquid -> solid.... Anyway, this isn't a long duration storm. It's modeled to be like an 8-10ish hour storm max. If you can lock in the cold just enough for those NW, I don't see how places escape a moderate icing event 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 My buddy in Wallingford Delco texted me he said the icing is very bad. Numerous accidents everywhere. Sun angle? Drink another dude... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Birds~69 said: No clue what you're talking about. I just said it's 27F and not icy but wet...that's it. Sun angle plays a part till nightfall... Guess the sun angle is no issue 200 miles to the south of us. Lol Some of you on this forum are not very bright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 Hrrr jumped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Birds~69 said: No clue what you're talking about. I just said it's 27F and not icy but wet...that's it. Sun angle plays a part till nightfall... 27f here Blue Bell light freezing mist attm accretion beginning on all surfaces. Not wet. Frozen glaze. Maybe you were walking on a brined road or sidewalk? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I’m out driving right now inNewtown Bucks County on my way to Levitown to pick up dinner. Rain is freezing to my windshield. Of course this is happening where I’m getting into heavier precipitation rates not where is barely coming down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Newman said: If the freezing rain comes down too heavy, however, you won't see as much accrual. Those big rain drops will require a lot more energy to freeze compared to smaller drizzle drops. Also, you can't forget about the latent heat aspect of the rain turning from liquid to ice on contact. That is essentially why its so hard to get significant icing events sometimes. Because the surface naturally warms as the rain transitions in state from liquid -> solid.... Anyway, this isn't a long duration storm. It's modeled to be like an 8-10ish hour storm max. If you can lock in the cold just enough for those NW, I don't see how places escape a moderate icing event Agree completely but if it’s not coming down hardly at all evaporates on the surface. The roads when I was out earlier we’re completely dry even though it was drizzling slightly now in Newtown it is raining at a decent clip and the roads are getting wet but not icy because been salted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 I think we r in the wrong thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, hazwoper said: Agree completely but if it’s not coming down hardly at all evaporates on the surface. The roads when I was out earlier we’re completely dry even though it was drizzling slightly now in Newtown it is raining at a decent clip and the roads are getting wet but not icy because been salted Completely agree. It's dry out there, so if rates are too little it obviously won't accrete. We were under a freezing fog advisory maybe a couple months back, and let me tell ya the roads were hella slippery even after something like that. I don't think todays storm and Tuesday are too comparable QPF wise. Tuesday will be loaded with gulf moisture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, hazwoper said: I’m out driving right now inNewtown Bucks County on my way to Levitown to pick up dinner. Rain is freezing to my windshield. Of course this is happening where I’m getting into heavier precipitation rates not where is barely coming down Wow, an L-Town reference. If you don't mind what restaurant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliviajames Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I think there is only three weeks in winter where people don’t bring up the sun angle . It is mid February people. Sun angle is limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Newtown to Levittown I'm sure it's F*****g awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Violentweatherfan said: Wow, an L-Town reference. If you don't mind what restaurant UGG Olive Garden. Not my choice my wife is a big fanUGG Olive Garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I am at Maple pointe middle school with light rain and my car shows a temp of 23°. Still people are driving like idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, hazwoper said: UGG Olive Garden. Not my choice my wife is a big fanUGG Olive Garden. UGG? Technically is in Levittown so mad props! You ought to try Pasta on Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said: 27f here Blue Bell light freezing mist attm accretion beginning on all surfaces. Not wet. Frozen glaze. Maybe you were walking on a brined road or sidewalk? You had many meltdowns/Ji's in the past...not busting. I walked in the street/sidewalks around 3pm and were wet. Recently drove toward the Montgomery Mall (202)...just wet. Checking police, nothing major...just 3. As dark approaches, of course things will get worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, hazwoper said: I am at Maple pointe middle school with light rain and my car shows a temp of 23°. Still people are driving like idiots It was a high school in my day. Carpet, air conditioning, and an elevator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, hazwoper said: I am at Maple pointe middle school with light rain and my car shows a temp of 23°. Still people are driving like idiots Drop the "e". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Violentweatherfan said: UGG? Technically is in Levittown so mad props! You ought to try Pasta on Time. Stopping at Italian people’s bakery for some fresh sandwich rolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, hazwoper said: Stopping at Italian people’s bakery for some fresh sandwich rolls They should have never moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 @hazwoper Seriously, pasta on time. L-Town Shopping Center 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Birds~69 said: You had many meltdowns/Ji's in the past...not busting. I walked in the street/sidewalks around 3pm and were wet. Recently drove toward the Montgomery Mall (202)...just wet. Checking police, nothing major...just 3. As dark approaches, of course things will get worse. What r you talking about meltdowns? Who pissed in your Wheaties bro? LMFAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Oliviajames said: I think there is only three weeks in winter where people don’t bring up the sun angle . It is mid February people. Sun angle is limited It's about 10° higher now (36°) than on Dec. 22nd, which can make a difference on blacktop and other darker surfaces, even on cloudy days. I never stress over it, it's just a piece of reality. It is kind of classic (later) February to have highs in the 30's on a sunny day with snow rapidly melting on southern exposures, and then get accumulating snow that night or the next day. I've had a foot or more of granular snow in shaded areas late in the month, with grass showing in other sunny areas. Some of that is in fact due to sun angle, I believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Lol, this thread is all over the map! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albedoman Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I think this thread is in as much chaos as the models. We all need to ingest more data to come up with reasonable expectations of this weeks wintry events. I surely believe what the models are currently depicting will depict the LV having a moderate to severe ice storm in this event or in the next one along with snow. These are simply all 24 hour now cast events for this week. Looking at these models to wish for heavy snow just cannot be done this weather pattern that is experiencing major upheaval. I see a huge warm up no matter what after the 24th and winter will finally turn the corner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Albedoman said: I think this thread is in as much chaos as the models. We all need to ingest more data to come up with reasonable expectations of this weeks wintry events. I surely believe what the models are currently depicting will depict the LV having a moderate to severe ice storm in this event or in the next one along with snow. These are simply all 24 hour now cast events for this week. Looking at these models to wish for heavy snow just cannot be done this weather pattern that is experiencing major upheaval. I see a huge warm up no matter what after the 24th and winter will finally turn the corner. I'm savoring my snowpack! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 NAM punched 50 miles further north at 0z 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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