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Feb 12-14th V-Day Weekend Potential Stuff


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I have to acknowledge I was too optimistic/aggressive on first real post I made to this thread. What we've seen is an adjustment to what probably was always a more realistic outcome in this setup, to have broadbrushed lighter totals and then a more focused corridor where mesoscale banding could enhance things. The 12z runs thus far show that nicely, 2-4" in that swath which should cut across roughly the I-80 to 88 corridors, and can't rule out 4-5" totals if the banding is stronger and more prolonged than expected given likelihood of >20:1 SLRs.

Finally, Sunday night into Monday is trending up, especially on 12z RGEM, which has a broad 4-6" across the CWA.

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1 hour ago, janetjanet998 said:

sort of an odd situation

the scattered very weak  north to south moving radar echoes over IL are light snow showers (drove through some this morning 

yet the stronger returns over eastern IA into Western IL moving east appear to be virga

 

those snow showers are below the mid level dry layer while the stronger returns moving eastward are higher up and evaporating as they fall through the dry layer

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5 minutes ago, janetjanet998 said:

the thin snow band goes right over the DVN radar site. with 15-20 dBZ echoes on the western edge vanishing and reappearing at higher levels relative to the radar beam more east

so wasteful

:(

 

I could see this all ending up north of us. Tricky setup for models. Seem splotchy with the snow. Frontogenic band will likely be north. 

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1 minute ago, StormChaser4Life said:

I could see this all ending up north of us. Tricky setup for models. Seem splotchy with the snow. Frontogenic band will likely be north. 

snow hitting the ground south central IA in that band as of 17z

CHARITON has 1 mil Vis 

and Ottumwa has very light snow

take that due east and its the northern part of the metro , but I assume there will be a slight north push with time

 

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20 minutes ago, janetjanet998 said:

snow hitting the ground south central IA in that band as of 17z

CHARITON has 1 mil Vis 

and Ottumwa has very light snow

take that due east and its the northern part of the metro , but I assume there will be a slight north push with time

 

Hrrr seems to be latched onto the idea of a band forming to our ne and backbuilding sw into us tonight. 

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2 hours ago, McHenrySnow said:

I wouldn't be surprised if some of you who have continuously gotten snow this week do okay. I'm hoping for an inch. Have yet to see an inch from a single event this week, so it might be a fool's errand. Regardless, it's nice to have snow on the ground and I'm trying to just come to peace with the fact that that's as good as it's going to get this winter. 

RFD had 1.1" last night. Had .5" here. How do you do overnight?

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Regarding lake enhancement tonight into Saturday morning for northwest Indiana, the Euro is farther west with the low level convergence axis than the other guidance, bringing solid enhancement as far west as GYY. It favors the Lake-Porter area and several miles either side for highest totals in the CWA through tomorrow evening. We currently have a WWA out for Porter County and if observational trends this evening support the Euro, we may have to extend the advisory into Lake IN. I think we may leave things as is for the afternoon issuance though.

 

 

 

 

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Snow is ongoing in a band across Iowa. This band will shift to the
east and over the area this evening. Substantial dry air is in place
ahead of this band, especially across northern Iowa and northern
Illinois. It is plausible that snow/flurries begin as early as 00z,
but more likely the accumulating snow will start a few hours
later from south to north (1-2z MDW, 3z at ORD). Morning AMDAR
soundings show that the dry air is not very strong initially, and
should be overcome quickly if no additional dry air moves in, but
our latest AMDAR soundings at MDW do show dry air is advecting in.
Confidence on snow onset is therefore only medium but current
thought is that we may need to push things back a bit if the dry
air trends continue.

Once snow begins, a prolonged light to moderate snow event will
unfold tonight into Saturday over the area TAF sites. Confidence is
fairly high in this event beginning over the southern part of the
Chicago metro (favoring MDW) before ORD and possibly by several
hours. This has the look of 1-2 SM snow for much of this event. Late
tonight into Saturday morning, approximately 08Z-15Z, there are some
signals for temporary sub 1SM visibility. Ceilings should lower
through the MVFR category tonight and temporary IFR is probable
Saturday, although when on Saturday morning is still too low of
confidence to include at this distance in the TAF.

Total accumulation of this dry and powdery snow is forecast at 2 to
3 inches at ORD and MDW by Saturday afternoon. If moderate rates are
more frequent, namely at MDW, that could be exceeded.
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The main axis of snowfall amounts in the 2-4" range has shifted a
bit north, focused more around the I-80/88 corridors with this
update, with amounts lowered to for our southernmost counties to
an inch or less. PoP trends for Saturday morning are a bit
unclear, as we`ll begin losing the better jet support, resulting
in an overall weakening to the already modest mid-level f-gen.
This may allow lingering light snow near/south of I-80 to
dwindle, before additional ascent from an incoming shortwave
pushes across our northwestern locales. Have trimmed PoPs south
and east of I-57 as a result, and left the categorical/definites
going elsewhere.
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Just now, ILSNOW said:

KLOT


The main axis of snowfall amounts in the 2-4" range has shifted a
bit north, focused more around the I-80/88 corridors with this
update, with amounts lowered to for our southernmost counties to
an inch or less. PoP trends for Saturday morning are a bit
unclear, as we`ll begin losing the better jet support, resulting
in an overall weakening to the already modest mid-level f-gen.
This may allow lingering light snow near/south of I-80 to
dwindle, before additional ascent from an incoming shortwave
pushes across our northwestern locales. Have trimmed PoPs south
and east of I-57 as a result, and left the categorical/definites
going elsewhere.

Sounds about right. Dead on arrival. I give up on this winter. Lol 

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