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February 7th Storm Threat Discussion/Obs


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Will join the party at 4-6" -- snow modelling does not seem to fit the pressure evolution very well, and then northward displacement of max snow axis has worked in past two storms, why not this one? ... 6-8" would be the upper end of possible outcomes given the speed. Good luck anyway. Great looks later in the 18z run for additional significant snowfalls. 

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Just now, WinterWxLuvr said:

I’ve seen Jan 2011 thrown around with this storm and I can’t see why. IIRC we got hammered by the closed h5 low as it came through. We don’t have that unless I haven’t been paying attention

yea, i think more so a couple days ago when it looked like it was trending stronger.  i think the association with this one could have been just the quick thump in a short amount of time.  87 was around a foot in 6-8 hours.  jan 2011 was a scaled down version of that.

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1 minute ago, 87storms said:

this was one of my favorite snowstorms, though i was too young to know why/how it became a surprise (and borderline freakish) snowstorm.  i was actually peeking at analogs this week because i thought this may have some similarities with the milder temps leading in, but it didn't show up.  i think that one was a bombogenesis and caught forecasters off guard as it tracked up the coast.  it's also in the ku book.  jan 2011 is probably the closest to that one that i've seen, and feb 2014 as far as rates are concerned.

Was a senior in HS and Feb was the greatest snow month for fun I've ever had. Bumper skiing all over the neighbornood. Bonfire midnight sledding parties with cases of OE800 tall boys packed in the snow at Strathmore. Cops came a few times to hang out and talk. Not to break it up. Life was so different back then but too many people did too many dumb thing in general and the party has been over since. 

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3 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

I’ve seen Jan 2011 thrown around with this storm and I can’t see why. IIRC we got hammered by the closed h5 low as it came through. We don’t have that unless I haven’t been paying attention

Jan 2011 was a big upper level bowling ball overnight. Not even close imo. Maybe temps and such. Dynamics/features? It's like comparing a ford mustang gt to a ford focus. They're both cars but kinda stops there 

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Just now, Bob Chill said:

Jan 2011 was a big upper level bowling ball overnight. Not even close imo. Maybe temps and such. Dynamics/features? It's like comparing a ford mustang gt to a ford focus. They're both cars but kinda stops there 

Thanks. I am sometimes starting to worry about my memory but I thought I remembered that one pretty well.

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Just now, Buddy1987 said:

LOTS of reports in the south of precip quickly flipping over to shreds of paper, even with marginal temps. Upstairs is def cold!

Exactly. And it starts right off the deck. Even 925s are fine. The warm air is literally a tiny slice of an otheriwse a good column. Soundings matter. Not all "warmish" events are the same. If the warmth was thick I would have quite different thoughts right now. I've experienced enough marginal storms where the entire first half of precip is rain even with good 850s. Those ingredients arent present with this one

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2 minutes ago, Bob Chill said:

Exactly. And it starts right off the deck. Even 925s are fine. The warm air is literally a tiny slice of an otheriwse a good column. Soundings matter. Not all "warmish" events are the same. If the warmth was thick I would have quite different thoughts right now. I've experienced enough marginal storms where the entire first half of precip is rain even with good 850s. Those ingredients arent present with this one

How far up can the temperature be above freezing before it starts to melt? I’ve seen some snow at really warm temperatures before, really surprising. Maybe it depends on a bunch of things?

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