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3 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

If it were that easy, Redfield, NY would be a city not a village lol.

My freshman year of college was spent in Oswego before transferring to the University at Buffalo. The year I was up there was the “10 feet in 8 days” year in February 2007 (winter 06-07) We got over 240” that season. The snowiest parts of the tughill surpassed 300. It was an insane 90 days of weather. Buffalo was also quite snowy, but more cold than anything else. The city of Buffalo itself isn’t in the best location for persistent lake snow being on the NE tip of Erie, but when the fetch and steering winds align SW over Erie.... look out. The “October storm” was quite memorable. Nearly 2 feet in mere hours with thundersnow. I’m not sure I’ll ever get the opportunity to live in such a snowy place again. Apple isn’t based in any super snowy cities or areas :(

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5 minutes ago, leesburg 04 said:

Whatever the disturbance is that is causing the light snow to persist here I ain't mad. A nice solid snow Wednesday night, very little melting on Thursday cold day on Friday with persistent snow showers freshening up the pack. Feels like winter here.

Come here and check out the ambiance. You’ll love it lol

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1 hour ago, jayyy said:

My freshman year of college was spent in Oswego before transferring to the University at Buffalo. The year I was up there was the “10 feet in 8 days” year in February 2007 (winter 06-07) We got over 240” that season. The snowiest parts of the tughill surpassed 300. It was an insane 90 days of weather. Buffalo was also quite snowy, but more cold than anything else. The city of Buffalo itself isn’t in the best location for persistent lake snow being on the NE tip of Erie, but when the fetch and steering winds align SW over Erie.... look out. The “October storm” was quite memorable. Nearly 2 feet in mere hours with thundersnow. I’m not sure I’ll ever get the opportunity to live in such a snowy place again. Apple isn’t based in any super snowy cities or areas :(

Western NY ain't a bad place to be if you can find a decent job (or if you're retired). My wife and I have been up here since 2003. We live in western Monroe county (near Brockport). Pretty nice, still lots of farmland and open space. We average about 100" of snow but are not in one of the prime lake effect belts where bands set up and dump 60" in a day. It comes in frequent smaller amounts, lots of days with 1-3". An occasional synoptic storm as well, I'd say most winters there is one big event in the 12-24" range. This year we're well below average but still have had nearly 50" with a solid 8" or so on the ground right now.

We lived in Maryland and Virginia for 10 years and I actually preferred the climate down there. I'm more of a summer person and frankly am getting tired of the long, dark, cold winters. The biggest problems are the lack of sun from November - March, sometimes you can go weeks without any sun. And the springs often tend to be delayed, cold, wet. That's partly due to the cold lakes being nearby. On the other hand, summer and fall are glorious.

We'll probably retire in Virginia or NC though we're also toying with the idea of shaking things up and spending some time out west. Time will tell...

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This picture from my old house just popped up in my Facebook feed, from Feb 2010.  The WAA snow before blizzard 2 of Feb 9-10, 2010.  About 4-5 inches in two hours, then sleet/drizzle lull, then at 6am the house shook as if hit by an earth quake.  Pouring snow, 50mph winds and whiteout conditions.  Now that was a way to run a winter!

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2 hours ago, frd said:

Pretty bad calls about cold in the East.  In this 10 day mean the real cold never got into SE Canada and the last few days the cold is lessening,  but diminishing core remains out West.

I will simply blame the Pac, the Nina and the base state.  

So, next winter when someone says the AO will go negative or the NAO will go negative I will simply say, so what. 

 

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we had a +PNA for long stretches in December and early January and that did no good either.  

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Look at this SWS out of Dallas NWS:

 

...BRIEF MODERATE SNOW NEAR AREA LAKES IN MONTAGUE...NORTHEASTERN
ERATH... HOPKINS...RAINS...LAMAR...PALO PINTO...COLLIN...FANNIN...
ELLIS... DALLAS...HOOD...VAN ZANDT...DENTON...PARKER...DELTA...
ROCKWALL...HUNT...SOMERVELL...KAUFMAN...JOHNSON...WISE...JACK...
TARRANT...COOKE AND GRAYSON COUNTIES...

At 1030 AM CST, there have been multiple reports of localized light
to moderate snow downstream of area lakes.  These areas of snow are
usually narrow bands confined to areas near and south of area lakes.
Visibility may be reduced to less than 1 mile in snow for brief
periods of time.  These rapidly changing conditions could surprise
drivers.  Slow down and drive with extreme caution.

 

LES in Texas

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43 minutes ago, coh said:

Western NY ain't a bad place to be if you can find a decent job (or if you're retired). My wife and I have been up here since 2003. We live in western Monroe county (near Brockport). Pretty nice, still lots of farmland and open space. We average about 100" of snow but are not in one of the prime lake effect belts where bands set up and dump 60" in a day. It comes in frequent smaller amounts, lots of days with 1-3". An occasional synoptic storm as well, I'd say most winters there is one big event in the 12-24" range. This year we're well below average but still have had nearly 50" with a solid 8" or so on the ground right now.

We lived in Maryland and Virginia for 10 years and I actually preferred the climate down there. I'm more of a summer person and frankly am getting tired of the long, dark, cold winters. The biggest problems are the lack of sun from November - March, sometimes you can go weeks without any sun. And the springs often tend to be delayed, cold, wet. That's partly due to the cold lakes being nearby. On the other hand, summer and fall are glorious.

We'll probably retire in Virginia or NC though we're also toying with the idea of shaking things up and spending some time out west. Time will tell...

Sounds like you live in a beautiful spot. I still enjoy the big snows (at this point, any snow) on the rare occasion it appears in southern FfxCo...just hate cleaning it up now. We're probably heading for one of the Carolinas or Florida in a couple years for a pre-retirement move. The beach will eventually win out.

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1 minute ago, psuhoffman said:

we had a +PNA for long stretches in December and early January and that did no good either.  

More poor luck chaos. We know it is easier to score in Jan or Feb, ( our best climo naturally ), versus December. The + PNA arrived at a time when Canada was loaded with Pac puke air. 

A better Pac now would have helped. But, its more than that. 

Have you seen this year, and at times in the last 4 years,  the increasing difficulty to get into a good snow pattern for our area. There is a reason for that too.   

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4 minutes ago, North Balti Zen said:

Tulsa is under a WSW for 6-10 inches of snow Sunday into Monday with a high of 10 and a low of -2. Oklahoma City same but 9 and -4. 

Just. I mean. 

It sucks being on the East coast , even Nashville is in deep winter.

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?x=145&y=95&site=ohx&zmx=&zmy=&map_x=145&map_y=95#.YCa3rmhKiUk

 

 

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46 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

That's great. As much as I like the east, there is nothing like being out west. It's just gorgeous out there. Utah, Montana, Colorado, and Wyoming. My goodness. 

Agreed. In grad school a group of us drove out to Seattle to spend a couple of months at U of Washington. Utah was stunning. We didn't even have time to stop at any of the parks,  but the views from the highway were gorgeous. On the way back went through Montana and hit Yellowstone. Have to get out there again. Have also spent quite a bit of time in the Boulder area, but that was 30 years ago. Beautiful country but I hear the front range has become quite over-populated now, housing costs skyrocketing, traffic.

 

20 minutes ago, vastateofmind said:

Sounds like you live in a beautiful spot. I still enjoy the big snows (at this point, any snow) on the rare occasion it appears in southern FfxCo...just hate cleaning it up now. We're probably heading for one of the Carolinas or Florida in a couple years for a pre-retirement move. The beach will eventually win out.

We'd love to move to a warm beach area at some point. Used to vacation on Cape Hatteras when we were living down your way. Lake Ontario beaches just ain't the same! I know people living around Charleston SC and also Tybee Island GA and they love it down there. We'll see. Snow removal is definitely wearing on me, especially clearing the roof which is prone to serious ice dams when conditions are right. Old house, poorly insulated attic and lots of snow is not a great combination for an aging body!

 

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On 2/12/2021 at 8:46 AM, WxWatcher007 said:

That's great. As much as I like the east, there is nothing like being out west. It's just gorgeous out there. Utah, Montana, Colorado, and Wyoming. My goodness. 

Don't leave out California Washington & Oregon.  Utah & Washington are my favorites for stunning beauty...Even though I ended up in the Oregon High Desert.

Any place west of the high plains is a different world than the east 

7th winter here and would never even consider living on the east coast again.  

Outdoor recreation is off the charts and summers are insanely beautiful.. unless you love all the rain, humidity & bugs then the east coast is your place. 

Come and visit.  The photo is from the trail near my home.

https://www.visitbend.com/

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Scraff said:

Can everyone hold back on weather talk for a sec. I’m busy working. It’s a rough life, but someone gotta do it!

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Yooooooo hook me up with some of that double promise, I'll give you a growler of my homebrewed oatmeal raisin brown.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Scuddz said:

Yooooooo hook me up with some of that double promise, I'll give you a growler of my homebrewed oatmeal raisin brown.

 

 

I only have one can. LOLz. I could easily hook you up with some samples though from my other breweries that I officially work with. Duclaw / Tall Tales / Ten Eyck / Charm City Mead Works. Seriously. Let me know! I’d love to try your beer! B)

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4 minutes ago, Scraff said:

I only have one can. LOLz. I could easily hook you up with some samples though from my other breweries that I officially work with. Duclaw / Tall Tales / Ten Eyck / Charm City Mead Works. Seriously. Let me know! I’d love to try your beer! B)

My wife just saw the chocolate land release so I'm likely heading there myself later.  

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