SnowenOutThere Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Hey @psuhoffman when are you going to open a ski resort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewell2188 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 So as we near the end of “winter” what would y’all’s opinion be on how and why we failed on so many potential big events in the mid Atlantic?? It truly did seem like it was all around us this year but we could never score area wide and why the models even short term models failed badly on many events? Last week was a prime example, many of us expected to start snow and several hours of snow only to wake up to sleet from the start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillvilleWx Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 49 minutes ago, jewell2188 said: So as we near the end of “winter” what would y’all’s opinion be on how and why we failed on so many potential big events in the mid Atlantic?? It truly did seem like it was all around us this year but we could never score area wide and why the models even short term models failed badly on many events? Last week was a prime example, many of us expected to start snow and several hours of snow only to wake up to sleet from the start. The big storm that was missed was more of a situation where climo came back to bite with regards to how the storm unfolded. You need anomalous amplification of the trough with a farther south transfer, as well a primary as lower latitude to prevent either being skipped over, or warm air flooding through the mid-levels to cause an abrupt change in ptype. That last part was why the failures were more common this year. WAA snowfalls are efficient when the antecedent airmass ahead of the storm is more arctic in nature and not an in-situ situation where there's moderating boundary layer temps due to a vacating high pressure, or weakening high over Quebec/Northern New England. It can produce some prolific snowfall. The timing was off several times, and WAA ALWAYS is under-modeled in the Mid Atlantic. That's where knowing climo is important. The higher elevated areas north and west of the fall line will ultimately win more times than not due to colder temps favored to hang around longer. With so many storms taking the WAA route, and pretty much all of them with in-situ CAD signatures as fresh arctic air was not present during the systems, it ended up being even more pronounced in the favored regions, adding to the frustration. You NEED fresh arctic cold in the low lands/east of the fall line to score big events. Those are fewer and far between historically, however. I know a lot of people are frustrated, especially with models busting terribly this year for whatever reason. It MAY have something to do with lower data feeds from aviation thanks to Covid? I don't have the answer to that specificity. The fact they were able to sniff out events pretty well this year was a positive, but the short term was rough. It was an anomaly in performance compared to the past. We'll see if there's a shift later next fall/winter. Meteorology, not modelology 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 FYI...vaccine appointments at M&T Bank stadium available now. Hurry. covidvax.maryland.gov. Was able to schedule 3 folks we know over 65 already. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: FYI...vaccine appointments at M&T Bank stadium available now. Hurry. covidvax.maryland.gov. Was able to schedule 3 folks we know over 65 already. just went through the initial information for my mom and no appointments available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, mappy said: just went through the initial information for my mom and no appointments available. Yup, we just tried again and it's all booked. 7am is the time, that's when new appointments drop. We ended up getting 5 appointments for friends and family 65+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, WxUSAF said: Yup, we just tried again and it's all booked. 7am is the time, that's when new appointments drop. We ended up getting 5 appointments for friends and family 65+. good to know. ill try again tomorrow morning. thanks friend. she's been trying for weeks and no such luck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vastateofmind Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 9 hours ago, MillvilleWx said: Meteorology, not modelology. That's my biggest takeaway from your post, @MillvilleWx. And why I still have much to learn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I hate that you can’t like your own posts lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 So what's the deal with this? I have never experienced one of these. Are there going to be swarms of these things everywhere? Is my dog going to be jumping up and eating them out of mid air? Am I going to need to use my windshield wipers while driving? Will I need a tennis racket to get to my car lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LP08 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said: So what's the deal with this? I have never experienced one of these. Are there going to be swarms of these things everywhere? Is my dog going to be jumping up and eating them out of mid air? Am I going to need to use my windshield wipers while driving? Will I need a tennis racket to get to my car lol? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said: So what's the deal with this? I have never experienced one of these. Are there going to be swarms of these things everywhere? Is my dog going to be jumping up and eating them out of mid air? Am I going to need to use my windshield wipers while driving? Will I need a tennis racket to get to my car lol? Life as you know it is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, WinterWxLuvr said: Life as you know it is over Summer of the 17 year cicadas coupled with the 10 year anniversaries of Irene and the M 5.8 earthquake.. shit is about to go down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said: Life as you know it is over 4 minutes ago, LP08 said: Yes. But will Loudon be on a two hour delay to clear the Cicadas? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LP08 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said: But will Loudon be on a two hour delay to clear the Cicadas? Fauquier is already closed. I was in High School. I carried around a badminton racket in my yard and just went to town. They fly into your cars, hair, everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, LP08 said: Fauquier is already closed. I was in High School. I carried around a badminton racket in my yard and just went to town. They fly into your cars, hair, everywhere. Man, that sounds fun as hell. I'm not sure my kids (2 and 4) will like it much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said: But will Loudon be on a two hour delay to clear the Cicadas? Funny enough back in 2004 I worked in Rockville and lived in Leesburg and Rockville was invaded it was insane and there were very few out here in LoudOUn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said: So what's the deal with this? I have never experienced one of these. Are there going to be swarms of these things everywhere? Is my dog going to be jumping up and eating them out of mid air? Am I going to need to use my windshield wipers while driving? Will I need a tennis racket to get to my car lol? Not really. They mostly just sit in the trees and make a shit ton of noise. I was camping in a tent for a week during the 2004 cicada's and basically never slept the entire week. By the way they are awesome bait for fishing. If you are into that kind of thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, clskinsfan said: Not really. They mostly just sit in the trees and make a shit ton of noise. I was camping in a tent for a week during the 2004 cicada's and basically never slept the entire week. The cicadas are noisy as hell every year in my neighborhood it seems. It's like there's always a dull roar in summer evenings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleocene Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said: So what's the deal with this? I have never experienced one of these. Are there going to be swarms of these things everywhere? Is my dog going to be jumping up and eating them out of mid air? Am I going to need to use my windshield wipers while driving? Will I need a tennis racket to get to my car lol? I was in Harrisburg PA for these in 2004 and it was pretty interesting. There were fewer of them in areas that were more heavily/recently developed. At the time I lived in a townhouse built in the 90s and didn't see any. My dad, however, lived in a more rural-agricultural-forest type area, and there were literally ZILLIONS of them. They formed carpets under the trees. The sound was deafening. It was pretty amazing, really. I'm not sure what they're like here in the inner burbs of DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 So what's the deal with the ones I hear every summer? Are those just part of some season ones that aren't on a 17 year cycle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve25 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 If you live in an area with trees, they're going to be EVERYWHERE. If you live in an area with mostly just buildings, you probably won't experience too many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said: So what's the deal with the ones I hear every summer? Are those just part of some season ones that aren't on a 17 year cycle? There are broods that come out every year. Different species. Its just the big one is every 17 years. Some of them come out a year early or a year late as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Steve25 said: If you live in an area with trees, they're going to be EVERYWHERE. If you live in an area with mostly just buildings, you probably won't experience too many of them. Well the "people's republic of Takoma Park" considers it a crime against humanity to cut a tree down so we've got like an entire forest here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, clskinsfan said: There are broods that come out every year. Different species. Its just the big one is every 17 years. Some of them come out a year early or a year late as well. Super interesting. I'm very ignorant on this stuff. So the ones that come out every 17 years are for some reason larger than the ones we see every year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailylurker Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 hours ago, mappy said: good to know. ill try again tomorrow morning. thanks friend. she's been trying for weeks and no such luck Gotta register everywhere and anywhere. I live in AA county where it doesn't snow and my parents had to go to PG county. Others I know have gone as far as Salisbury. I just messaged a couple older friends telling them about M&T stadium. I pre registered already and I'm only 42. I'm waiting for a cancelation so I can get in early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said: But will Loudon be on a two hour delay to clear the Cicadas? Fauquier will be closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 39 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said: So what's the deal with this? I have never experienced one of these. Are there going to be swarms of these things everywhere? Is my dog going to be jumping up and eating them out of mid air? Am I going to need to use my windshield wipers while driving? Will I need a tennis racket to get to my car lol? lol they wont be that bad. they will stay in trees and other vegetated areas. but they are very loud. I do recall in 2004 when I was dating a guy who lived in Loudon County, driving down Route 7 near NOVA college and a swarm of them were on the move and flew in the car. Freaked me out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, dailylurker said: Gotta register everywhere and anywhere. I live in AA county where it doesn't snow and my parents had to go to PG county. Others I know have gone as far as Salisbury. I just messaged a couple older friends telling them about M&T stadium. I pre registered already and I'm only 42. I'm waiting for a cancelation so I can get in early. I'm going to call her this evening and tell her she needs to try every damn day to get registered, at 7am. Otherwise, lll do it for her and she will just have to drive to wherever I can get her an appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXW176 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Re the cicadas: They’ve already started to invade my home. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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