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February Banter 2021


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30 minutes ago, H2O said:

Its funny.  I won't say one bad word about people who have been able to get the shot.  They deserve it and I hope more are able to.  I will say that for almost a year my work has required me to show up to the office every day and my employment is essential.  Some would say pretty damn essential.  But somehow we are group 1c.  Thankfully my wife and one kid just got their first on Friday because preschool teachers.  So just biding my time and hoping it happens sooner than later.

VA has been a free for all. Once they open up your group you log on to a website and hope you can snag a spot. I got lucky. Period. My wife still hasnt gotten hers. I will give props to the way it is being administered though. It is efficient and well run. I never waited more than 5 minutes for either shot and they are doing a fantastic job in the Winchester area handling it. 

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9 minutes ago, nj2va said:

I have to say I’m scratching my head at how this has been rolled out by the states/localities.  A friend of mine works for the county so is considered essential to keeping the local government running which I totally get - but has been virtually working at home for the last year (and will continue to for the rest of the year).  Meanwhile, grocery workers aren’t essential.  :blink:

 

Just now, clskinsfan said:

VA has been a free for all. Once they open up your group you log on to a website and hope you can snag a spot. I got lucky. Period. My wife still hasnt gotten hers. I will give props to the way it is being administered though. It is efficient and well run. I never waited more than 5 minutes for either shot and they are doing a fantastic job in the Winchester area handling it. 

I don't want to turn this into another COVID thread with debates on all that stuff that made the one earlier this year go sour.  I'm sure they are trying to do the best they can with what they had to start with and prioritize.  If things are improving with all of it then we just have to hope more and more will be allowed to get it and people stay healthy.  thats all I care about.  

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Just now, North Balti Zen said:

The following percentage of this board lives in Union Bridge:

.0000000000000000000000000000000000000001%

I...I..didn't think it was possible to make a more IMBY post than what i've seen lately.  I was mistaken.  All you can do is tip the cap.

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Here in the 50 corridor from DC to Annapolis...

We get what, 3-4 hours of snow before the flip? Say from 11 to 15Z? Even averaging 1/2"/hr rates (moderate snow), the bar for all snow is 2" here. This is where the NAM3 Ferrier SLR (snow NOT including sleet) is useful. It has 1-2" of snow before the flip. 

How much sleet after that? Figure a 2-1 ratio (which might be generous), meaning we need 0.50" of liquid to get 1" of sleet. Just can't see this area getting more than 0.50 to <1.0" of sleet based on the projected QPF after 14-15Z.

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Just now, WhiteoutMD said:

Another day so I will ask what everyone's opinion is on Downtown DC receiving 3 inches over or under?  me under still.  

Absolutely under. Depends exactly where in the District -- NW DC obviously would have a better shot.

But yeah, take the under. Now. If it's snow AND sleet, I'd still probably take the under, but it'd be closer, obviously. 

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Just now, WxMan1 said:

Here in the 50 corridor from DC to Annapolis...

We get what, 3-4 hours of snow before the flip? Say from 11 to 15Z? Even averaging 1/2"/hr rates (moderate snow), the bar for all snow is 2" here. This is where the NAM3 Ferrier SLR (snow NOT including sleet) is useful. It has 1-2" of snow before the flip. 

How much sleet after that? Figure a 2-1 ratio (which might be generous), meaning we need 0.50" of liquid to get 1" of sleet. Just can't see this area getting more than 0.50 to <1.0" of sleet based on the projected QPF after 14-15Z.

Agree this looks like ice to me especially near the bay like Annapolis south and east.  The ice part might start getting play in the media today

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Just now, WhiteoutMD said:

Agree this looks like ice to me especially near the bay like Annapolis south and east.  The ice part might start getting play in the media today

FWIW, Ava did mention that those along the bay would see very little in the way of snow accumulation before the flip to sleet, and possibly 33 and rain. 

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6 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

Warning for my area includes very little ice. Pretty bullish with a 6-10 call. I like it. 

Pretty crazy when you have a ice storm in Shreveport, LA today. 

You're in a pretty good spot for this event. Can't imagine you won't crack 30" on the year from this, and I'd imagine three 6" events in any given year is an impressive feat in a Nina, even out there. Enjoy!!

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4 minutes ago, WxMan1 said:

Here in the 50 corridor from DC to Annapolis...

We get what, 3-4 hours of snow before the flip? Say from 11 to 15Z? Even averaging 1/2"/hr rates (moderate snow), the bar for all snow is 2" here. This is where the NAM3 Ferrier SLR (snow NOT including sleet) is useful. It has 1-2" of snow before the flip. 

How much sleet after that? Figure a 2-1 ratio (which might be generous), meaning we need 0.50" of liquid to get 1" of sleet. Just can't see this area getting more than 0.50 to <1.0" of sleet based on the projected QPF after 14-15Z.

I've been saying to friends that 2-4 Snow/Sleet and then glacier with freezing drizzle afterwards.  They are on me now with the warning text of 3-6 but im holding strong here in the Arlington/DC area.

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4 minutes ago, mappy said:

FWIW, Ava did mention that those along the bay would see very little in the way of snow accumulation before the flip to sleet, and possibly 33 and rain. 

Looking at the high location and strength of the wedge across the models... I’d doubt Annapolis sees 33 and rain. Solomons Island? My former alma mater St. Mary’s? Absolutely

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1 minute ago, chris21 said:

Looking at the high location and strength of the wedge across the models... I’d doubt Annapolis sees 33 and rain. Solomons Island? Mt former alma Mayer St. Mary’s? Absolutely

I was generalizing. I agree with your assessment, you will need to be pretty far south, and along the bay, to see 33 and rain, if at all. 

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1 minute ago, chris21 said:

Looking at the high location and strength of the wedge across the models... I’d doubt Annapolis sees 33 and rain. Solomons Island? Mt former alma Mayer St. Mary’s? Absolutely

Well factor in whatever climate and microclimate variables one needs to.  Its impossible to drill down to EVERY location and know who might warm enough to flip to rain

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2 minutes ago, LP08 said:

I've been saying to friends that 2-4 Snow/Sleet and then glacier with freezing drizzle afterwards.  They are on me now with the warning text of 3-6 but im holding strong here in the Arlington/DC area.

Yeah, I made a 1-3” snow/sleet call to friends for Arlington/DC with light glaze of ice on top.  I wanted to go higher but taking seasonal trends into account.  I’m excited for the storm unless it turns into 35 and white rain for 8 hours (which seems highly unlikely :)). 

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1 minute ago, vastateofmind said:

Indeed. And @mappy also offered a subtle admonishment there to temper the "CRUSH JOB IMBY!" glee that will, I'm sure, land on deaf ears.

It will. Snow is very much an IMBY thing. But to tell people, who will absolutely not see 4-8" from this, that they are fools for thinking its a disaster.... is a real asshole move. 

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