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Obs and nowcast Major Nor'easter near blizzard Sunday afternoon Jan 31 - Sunrise Wednesday Feb 3

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forkyfork
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so the december snow statistic rule works out again

forkyfork
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very impressive. it's consolidating right over the metro

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donsutherland1

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5 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

how is such a difference even possible, Don?

The storm rapidly developed along an Arctic front. Its heaviest snows fell north and east of New York City. Bridgeport likely experienced a localized heavy band within an area of heavy snowfall. Some additional accumulations:

New Jersey: Layton (3 NW) in Sussex County: 4.5”; New Brunswick: 10.0”; Newark: 7.5”

New York City: 7.6” (Mount Vernon just to the north and east of the City: 11.0”)

East of NYC:

Connecticut: Bridgeport: 25.5”; Waterbury: 18.0”

Long Island: Farmingdale (2 NE): 14.0”; Setauket: 18.1”

Much more recently, one saw a roughly similar difference over a somewhat shorter distance: The January 26-28, 2015 storm brought 9.8” to NYC and 6.5” to Newark. Islip received 24.9”.

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jm1220

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22 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

1.6" new here since last evening.

This storm is the Energizer Bunny; snow intensity is increasing again.

16.5" total since Sunday.  13" at the stake.

Smithtown, LI

Crazy right? Still snowing here. Up to 15” (estimate) here adding from last night/today. And again that could be a little conservative since the other totals around me were higher than what I thought mine was. I see Central Park didn’t measure again but they probably made it to 17.5”, not sure how much snow regenerated over the city but there was a period of light snow overnight at Central Park too. 

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6 minutes ago, Cfa said:

1.8” since last night. Storm total 12.0”.

We had many rounds of snow last night, i guess we should not have been too surprised, the models all showed 1-2" additional for the island in the overnight hours

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20 minutes ago, psv88 said:

We had many rounds of snow last night, i guess we should not have been too surprised, the models all showed 1-2" additional for the island in the overnight hours

Snowing again right now. Snowing for 4 days straight, I don’t think I’ve ever seen this before.

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donsutherland1

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954 
NOUS41 KOKX 031456
PNSOKX
CTZ005>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179-040253-

Public Information Statement
National Weather Service New York NY
953 AM EST Wed Feb 3 2021

...PRELIMINARY STORM TOTAL SNOW REPORTS RECEIVED DURING THE LAST 
24 HOURS FOR RECENT STORM...

Location                     Amount    Time/Date       Provider             

...Connecticut...

...Fairfield County...
4 SSE Sherman                19.0 in   0600 AM 02/03   Trained Spotter      
Fairfield                    16.0 in   0225 PM 02/02   Public               
Bridgeport Airport           15.8 in   0700 AM 02/03   Official NWS Obs     
Greenwich                    15.2 in   0730 PM 02/02   Public               
2 SW Newtown                 13.8 in   0900 AM 02/02   Amateur Radio        

...New Haven County...
1 WNW Ansonia                13.0 in   1037 AM 02/02   CO-OP Observer       
1 NNW Guilford               12.6 in   0700 AM 02/03   CO-OP Observer       
2 SE West Haven              11.0 in   1131 AM 02/02   Trained Spotter      

...New London County...
1 SSE Norwich                8.0 in    1055 AM 02/02   CO-OP Observer       

...New Jersey...

...Bergen County...
Westwood                     22.0 in   1200 PM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
Ridgewood                    20.1 in   0700 AM 02/03   Trained Spotter      
1 W Ho-Ho-Kus                20.1 in   1046 AM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
1 N Englewood                19.5 in   1011 AM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
East Rutherford              19.0 in   1110 AM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
Park Ridge                   17.0 in   0225 PM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
Glen Rock                    16.7 in   1207 PM 02/02   Public               

...Essex County...
1 NNE Livingston             17.0 in   0950 AM 02/02   Public               

...Hudson County...
Harrison                     18.0 in   0700 AM 02/03   CO-OP Observer       
Hoboken                      16.5 in   0515 AM 02/03   Emergency Mngr       

...Passaic County...
3 NE West Milford            24.7 in   0930 AM 02/02   Public               
Wayne                        15.0 in   1130 AM 02/02   Trained Spotter      

...Union County...
Newark Airport               18.2 in   0700 AM 02/03   Official NWS Obs     

...New York...

...Bronx County...
1 ENE Harlem                 17.8 in   1200 PM 02/02   CO-OP Observer       
1 W East Tremont             16.9 in   0300 PM 02/02   Trained Spotter      

...Kings County...
Bay Ridge                    18.2 in   0100 PM 02/02   Emergency Mngr       
2 N Crown Heights            17.3 in   1000 AM 02/02   Public               

...Nassau County...
1 N Syosset                  17.1 in   0700 AM 02/03   Trained Spotter      
1 WNW Plainview              15.1 in   0900 AM 02/02   Public               
1 WNW Herricks               14.3 in   1150 PM 02/02   Public               
1 NE Plandome                13.5 in   0930 AM 02/02   Public               
Port Washington              12.3 in   0405 PM 02/02   Public               
1 S Jericho                  11.7 in   1130 AM 02/02   Trained Spotter      

...New York County...
Central Park                 17.4 in   0700 AM 02/03   Official NWS Obs     

...Orange County...
2 N Orange Lake              22.3 in   0745 AM 02/03   Trained Spotter      
Port Jervis                  22.0 in   0700 AM 02/03   CO-OP Observer       
Newburgh                     21.2 in   0330 PM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
Monroe                       21.0 in   1215 PM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
Middletown                   20.4 in   0930 AM 02/02   Fire Dept/Rescue     
Gardnertown                  18.0 in   0230 PM 02/02   Trained Spotter      

...Putnam County...
Cold Spring                  19.5 in   1000 AM 02/02   Amateur Radio        
Mahopac                      18.0 in   1230 PM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
Putnam Valley                17.5 in   0300 PM 02/02   Broadcast Media      
2 NW Jefferson Valley        15.0 in   0800 AM 02/03   CO-OP Observer       
1 NNE Carmel                 13.2 in   0800 AM 02/03   CO-OP Observer       

...Queens County...
Whitestone                   17.5 in   0600 PM 02/02   Public               
Howard Beach                 17.0 in   0900 AM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
NYC/La Guardia               14.3 in   0700 AM 02/03   Official NWS Obs     
1 SSW Elmhurst               14.1 in   0745 PM 02/02   Public               
NYC/JFK                      12.6 in   0700 AM 02/03   Official NWS Obs     

...Rockland County...
1 NNW New City               19.0 in   1000 AM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
Pearl River                  17.3 in   1100 AM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
1 NNW Nanuet                 17.0 in   1000 AM 02/02   Amateur Radio        

...Suffolk County...
Commack                      17.0 in   0900 AM 02/03   Public               
1 S Centerport               15.1 in   0800 AM 02/03   CO-OP Observer       
1 NW Mount Sinai             15.0 in   1055 AM 02/02   CO-OP Observer       
Upton                        14.8 in   0700 AM 02/03   Official NWS Obs     
3 NNE Calverton              14.8 in   1049 AM 02/02   CO-OP Observer       
3 WNW Aquebogue              13.0 in   1057 AM 02/02   CO-OP Observer       
Islip Airport                11.8 in   0700 AM 02/03   Official NWS Obs     
Bridgehampton                4.5 in    1051 AM 02/02   CO-OP Observer       

...Westchester County...
1 NE Buchanan                21.0 in   0900 AM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
3 N Mount Kisco              20.5 in   0815 AM 02/03   Public               
Armonk                       19.7 in   0900 AM 02/02   Public               
2 SSW Yonkers                17.3 in   1000 PM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
Croton-on-Hudson             16.6 in   0900 AM 02/02   Trained Spotter      
1 N Armonk                   14.0 in   1000 AM 02/02   Amateur Radio        
1 N White Plains             14.0 in   1000 AM 02/02   Amateur Radio        
New Rochelle                 11.5 in   1000 AM 02/02   Amateur Radio        
&&
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The Jan 31-Feb 3 storm, now with 17.4 inches in Central Park as of 7 am this morning, now ties it for number 16 all time in NYC. It appears it will fall 0.8 inches short of cracking the top 10. In reality it probably did, but after the 16.8 inch report at midnight Feb1 they have only reported 0.6 inches in the last 32 hours? That's probably not correct and all anyone has to do is look at the observations from the last 32 hours to verify. It was probably closer to 2 inches since then at least. WTS the Consevancy still does a much better job than the zookeeper ever did. Oh those horrible under counts from years past. The horror, The horror.

Top 20 Snowstorms All Time
Central Park in NYC
(through 7 AM February 3, 2021)
Rank.Amount..Date
1……..27.5…..January 23, 2016
2……..26.9…..February 11-12, 2006
3……..25.8…..December 26-27, 1947
4……..21.0…..March 12-14, 1888
5……..20.9…..February 25-26, 2010
6……..20.2…..January 7-8, 1996
7……..20.0…..December 26-27, 2010
8……..19.8…..February 16-17, 2003
9……..19.0…..January 26-27, 2011
10…..18.1…..March 7-8, 1941
10…..18.1…..January 22-24, 1935
12…..18.0…..December 26, 1872
13…..17.7…..February 5-7, 1978
14…..17.6…..February 11-12, 1983
15…..17.5…..February 4-7, 1920
16…..17.4…..February 3-4, 1961
16....17.4...Jan 31-February 1,  2021
18…..16.0…..December 19-20, 1948
18…..16.0…..February 12-13, 1899
20…..15.3…..February 9-10, 1969

So much incorrect reporting on this storm. TWC one of the worst culprits kept repeating the mantra this is a top 10 storm all time in NYC, which of course leads to the question why do I bother watching TWC. As the above plainly proves, at least record keeping wise it is not. I won't even bother with all of the other incorrect things I heard. Does anyone check facts before reporting anymore?

One shot at Boston. Their mayor declared a state of emergency and closed all schools when they were expecting 3-5 inches of snow? You're kidding me right? I believe their final tally was 1.2 inches at midnight last night as most of the storm there it just rained.

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25 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

The Jan 31-Feb 3 storm, now with 17.4 inches in Central Park as of 7 am this morning, now ties it for number 16 all time in NYC. It appears it will fall 0.8 inches short of cracking the top 10. In reality it probably did, but after the 16.8 inch report at midnight Feb1 they have only reported 0.6 inches in the last 32 hours? That's probably not correct and all anyone has to do is look at the observations from the last 32 hours to verify. It was probably closer to 2 inches since then at least. WTS the Consevancy still does a much better job than the zookeeper ever did. Oh those horrible under counts from years past. The horror, The horror.

Top 20 Snowstorms All Time
Central Park in NYC
(through 7 AM February 3, 2021)
Rank.Amount..Date
1……..27.5…..January 23, 2016
2……..26.9…..February 11-12, 2006
3……..25.8…..December 26-27, 1947
4……..21.0…..March 12-14, 1888
5……..20.9…..February 25-26, 2010
6……..20.2…..January 7-8, 1996
7……..20.0…..December 26-27, 2010
8……..19.8…..February 16-17, 2003
9……..19.0…..January 26-27, 2011
10…..18.1…..March 7-8, 1941
11…..18.1…..January 22-24, 1935
12…..18.0…..December 26, 1872
13…..17.7…..February 5-7, 1978
14…..17.6…..February 11-12, 1983
15…..17.5…..February 4-7, 1920
16…..17.4…..February 3-4, 1961
16....17.4...Jan 31-February 1,  2021
18…..16.0…..December 19-20, 1948
19…..16.0…..February 12-13, 1899
20…..15.3…..February 9-10, 1969

So much incorrect reporting on this storm. TWC one of the worst culprits kept repeating the mantra this is a top 10 storm all time in NYC, which of course leads to the question why do I bother watching TWC. As the above plainly proves, at least record keeping wise it is not. I won't even bother with all of the other incorrect things I heard. Does anyone check facts before reporting anymore?

One shot at Boston. Their mayor declared a state of emergency and closed all schools when they were expecting 3-5 inches of snow? You're kidding me right? I believe their final tally was 1.2 inches at midnight last night as most of the storm there it just rained.

If it was 2-3 degrees colder in Boston they would’ve had 12” like places very close by did. Was an extremely close call there and models were too cold by just a tiny amount which meant mostly white rain in downtown and where Logan Airport is. Can’t speak for Central Park really but 17.4” wasn’t bad at all, may have been 18” but can’t complain too much. 

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16 hours ago, HVSnowLover said:

So Boston Logan is basically our version of jfk right on the water. That is one insane cutoff though can’t think of too many storms with that sharp of a cutoff say between jfk and cpk 

Just to further point out the ridiculous cutoff in BOS area. On Google Earth I measured 7.5 miles between Logan and Winchester, MA (1.2 inches to 18.2 inches). 16 inch difference going 7.5 miles NW of Logan. Thats basically the difference between JFK and LGA....Dont think there has ever been such a cutoff in our area.

 

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On 2/2/2021 at 8:02 AM, wxman said:

This matches me pretty close.  13.5" now on the ground but 15" storm total (conservatively).  

Yes..was up in Raritan and northern parts of Hillsborough  and they may have had 16-18. The amount of time we were in those death bands was relatively  short compared to areas just 10 miles to the north. Good storm but honestly did it even break into top 15 for our area?

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33 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

If it was 2-3 degrees colder in Boston they would’ve had 12” like places very close by did. Was an extremely close call there and models were too cold by just a tiny amount which meant mostly white rain in downtown and where Logan Airport is. Can’t speak for Central Park really but 17.4” wasn’t bad at all, may have been 18” but can’t complain too much. 

I'm not complaining about the measurement at Central Park just nitpicking.

As someone who has followed this for many decades, if this same storm happened while the Central Park Zookeeper was taking measurements this would have come in at 13.5 inches or some ridiculous figure like that, and everyone at the NWS and local mets would have known it was wrong, but they would have logged it, accepted it and reported it as fact. That's why I'm grateful for the Conservancy, they're not perfect but their so much better than what was.

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28 minutes ago, mikem81 said:

Just to further point out the ridiculous cutoff in BOS area. On Google Earth I measured 7.5 miles between Logan and Winchester, MA (1.2 inches to 18.2 inches). 16 inch difference going 7.5 miles NW of Logan. Thats basically the difference between JFK and LGA....Dont think there has ever been such a cutoff in our area.

 

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Yesterday someone posted in the SNE forum that where he lives in Winchester he measured 4 inches but on the other side of Winchester there was 16 inches. He speculated his area  that where he lived along the Aberjona River lies in a lower part of the town and that caused the great differences in snow between the 2 areas in town.

Topsfield Ma reported 5.5 while the bordering town of Boxford reported 20 inches. 

Longtime  Boston WCVB  met Harvey Leonard said the storm had the greatest snowfall variance in short distances that he has ever seen. 

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RU848789

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On 2/2/2021 at 1:54 PM, RU848789 said:

That last band of moderate to heavy snow delivered a 1/2" of snow, so we're up to 17.5" for the storm.  

And we got another 1/2" of very light fluffy snow from late evening through the overnight, so that brings me to 18.0' for this storm, which is just shy of my 19" prediction made on Saturday, but I'll take it. That last 1/2" was gone by 10 am though and I think the storm is finally over after 2 days of major snow and 2 more days of lingering light snow.  Simply an amazing event.  

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This was the 11th snowstorm in the OKX forecast zones since 09-10 with a 20”+ max.

 

2021

Jan 31-Feb 2....Blomingdale, NJ.....26.1

2018

Mar 21-22...Patchogue, NY......20.1

Mar 8....New Farfield, CT..........26.8

2017

Mar 14...Montgomery, NY.......23.5

2016

Jan 23..JFK,NY.........................30.5

2015

Jan 26-27....Orient,NY.............28.5

2013

Feb 8....Upton, NY..................30.9

2011

Jan 11-12.......Meriden, CT....29.0

2010

Feb 25-26...Mount Hope, NY...27.5

Dec 26........Elizabeth, NJ........31.5

2009

Dec 19-20....Upton, NY..........26.3

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