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Jan 31 - Feb 1 Event - STORM MODE THREAD


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21 minutes ago, Cobalt said:

Check this out. Definite west cluster that are likely a clobbering with the costal. Would explain why the 12 inch probabilities went up a fair bit (for reference, the larger L is the op Euro, the rest are the EPS low pressure cluster)

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I'd imagine the numbers PSU referenced for the ratio of SE to tucked has drastically changed. 

Seems like a pretty wide spread at such short range. 

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33 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

BTW I think you can still do pretty good with a more amped solution...I think a decent front end is likely and then so long as the storm exits more east then north (likely given the blocking) that deform axis will be shifting southeast as it exits and can clip you on the way out.  March 2018 was a good example of that.  

It will be interesting to see how the mesos roll as we get more into their wheelhouse. The Fgen banding area will make all the difference for some. As long as the front end stays good and there isn't too much warming, a modest back end is fine. GFS is the one model that still annoys me.

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3 minutes ago, caviman2201 said:

Wes just said on the CWG stream that he doesn't believe the GFS thermals - thinks Euro is right. Just to ease concerns.

Can I get GFS precip with euro thermals? TIA! 
 

 

Yes, precip and thermal profiles go hand in hand often...

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38 minutes ago, ChesterfieldVa80 said:

Why are the ensembles so much snowier down here in the Richmond area? Is this skewed by an outlier or too?

Euro/eps has been the coldest global leading in. I havent looked at nearly as many maps as others around here with this storm but I do know the euro suite is the most optimistic with cold. You're def getting plenty of precip. Just need CAD to flex. You know your climo better than me tho. That always matters in the midatlantic regardless of what models say

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LWX AFD Update at 9:00 PM

.SHORT TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/...
9:00 PM UPDATE: No change to the previous forecast at this time,
but some increase in expected snow totals may be necessary in
the next shift. Model guidance continue to increase in
confidence of 4-7" for most areas along and west of I-95, with
the higher end of that starting to look a little more likely.
Would like to see another round of guidance before bumping
things up just yet. For now, see the previous update and
discusison for more detailed thoughts. 
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Hey what does everyone think of the HRRR model 00z run with it running to 7pm Sunday. It seems to bring in the mix pretty quick but the coastal low seems to form pretty quick near the outer banks which is good for the second part of the system. 

HRRR is trash that far out


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1 minute ago, SnowenOutThere said:

Hey what does everyone think of the HRRR model 00z run with it running to 7pm Sunday. It seems to bring in the mix pretty quick but the coastal low seems to form pretty quick near the outer banks which is good for the second part of the system. 

I think you should avoid paying too much attention to the HRRR at 48h

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Just now, SnowenOutThere said:

Hey what does everyone think of the HRRR model 00z run with it running to 7pm Sunday. It seems to bring in the mix pretty quick but the coastal low seems to form pretty quick near the outer banks which is good for the second part of the system. 

Most people around here only use the HRRR right before the onset.  Late tomorrow night and Sunday morning it will get discussed more.  It’s not generally thought to be too useful past like 12 hours or so. 

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12 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

Hey what does everyone think of the HRRR model 00z run with it running to 7pm Sunday. It seems to bring in the mix pretty quick but the coastal low seems to form pretty quick near the outer banks which is good for the second part of the system. 

I never looks HRRR or CAMS beyond 24 hours before an event.

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