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1 minute ago, psuhoffman said:

I’m telling you I’ve noticed that any run that shows mixing and people freak out. I got several hours of sleet near IAD in 96. It sleeted into PA in 2003. I got some sleet up here during the psuhoffman storm and briefly during the Feb 11 2010 hecs and for a bit during the 15” March 2018 storm. I loved every one of them. People need to get over seeing a panel with non blue over them during a storm. At least not to the point they ignore the bigger picture. 

Weird you got sleet in Feb 11, 2010. I don't remember any sleet with that one. Seemed like a straight cold powder bomb, but maybe I'm not remembering right. Maybe there was a lull with sleet in the middle.

I think recency bias is part of the issue. I don't remember sleet in any of the 2009-2010 storms, and not in the 2016 storm either. I got sleet in 2003, but it was at the end and I was in College Park, which got less (and always seems to) than the surrounding area anyway.

You also tend to remember the great part of the storms and the end result more than anything that happened during it, though when you are getting sleeted on, it is agonizing waiting for the changeover. It was torture waiting for the changeover in January 2011, and then it dumped like 8 inches in three hours.

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Just now, MN Transplant said:

In a perfect scenario I think we’d like to see a bit more of a surface reflection at 84, but you can start to see it and it will stall as the 500 comes close.  That 500 track looks good.  Better than the open wave GFS at that point.

Even that gfs gave us 4-8” from the wrap around from DC north so... looking at the fgen and 850 winds at 84 hrs and seeing that band running along the PA line back into WV starting to pivot and develop south in WV in response to the upper level low catching up...I think that was going to pivot slowly across N VA and MD in the next 12 hours had that run continued. 

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2 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

Let’s be fair here. Any runs that show a more southern outcome ... you freak out. That’s when you somehow stop seeing the bigger picture. But I totally understand. This is an imby sport. But it works both ways.

I'd think a more southern outcome should make us all sweat a little bit...since psu dropped that bit about an outside chance it gets too far south and misses the transfer. @psuhoffman correct me if I interpreted that wrong.

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20 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

It depends. If the heaviest band is in northern Md I’d say this run will get an A+ rating. Time will tell. :lol:

Nam is likely too north with that feature but even if that’s the case look at the mid level winds and h5 track. That’s the northern extent you’re looking at there and it’s about to pivot back southeast. Look at the last 2 frames you can see it happening in WV. 

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Just now, losetoa6 said:

Icon is juiced again . Lays down 18" around the m/d line ....20"+ in York . 

 

Just now, losetoa6 said:

Icon is juiced again . Lays down 18" around the m/d line ....20"+ in York . 

Looks like almost 18” from Baltimore metro north and 24+ in York. Wild

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5 minutes ago, Wentzadelphia said:

Edit: Sorry SV maps overdo snow when it’s too warm so I never know how accurate it is for this model 

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Columbia deathband is alive and well!!! Going to see how the mesos handle this within 60 to see if I’m going down to Howard county for this one or not. 

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15 minutes ago, MN Transplant said:

Especially if the sleet is during the lull after the WAA anyway.  You aren’t “wasting” much precip.

Exactly. It’s typical to mix during the dry slot because the dry slot typically corresponds to the mid level warning cutting off the intense WAA lift and with less intense precip you can’t mix out the warm pockets.  That’s typical. It’s different from a solution that shows a legit flip during the heavy WAA precip or a track so far north we miss the deform on the back. 

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