Rtd208 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Miserable out there this morning. Picked up 0.25" of rain so far today. Current temp 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 up here in the Poconos we got 2" of snow that changed to rain now...drizzle now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Newark actually made the top 10 for snowiest DJF. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Dec through Feb Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 1960-1961 69.5 0 2 2010-2011 66.0 0 3 1995-1996 62.8 0 4 2013-2014 60.5 0 5 1993-1994 55.8 0 6 1977-1978 52.9 0 7 2009-2010 47.9 0 8 1947-1948 47.0 2 9 2020-2021 45.7 2 10 2002-2003 44.8 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmendevils8204 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Snowpacks are going to take some major body blows today and tomorrow with this steady rain and fog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, gmendevils8204 said: Snowpacks are going to take some major body blows today and tomorrow with this steady rain and fog. Yes, the snow fog has begun, kinda like our version of the Chinook... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Plenty of bare ground around LI. My neighborhood holds snow well, but now we have the fog. 2:30 this afternoon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 55 and sunny in Mt. Holly. 50 and barf at home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Getting the first sun of the day now here in SW Suffolk as the fog clears out. Late day high temperatures with 51° now in Wantagh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, bluewave said: Getting the first sun of the day now here in SW Suffolk as the fog clears out. Late day high temperatures with 51° now in Wantagh. Still foggy and dark here, but it is 50° Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dWave Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Partly sunny now, 52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Cloudy 40° still 9 inches otg. A different world here in the HV. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 48F under brilliant sunshine in Hastings 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, NorthShoreWx said: Still foggy and dark here, but it is 50° Warmest day of the month so far here on the South Shore at 52° and sunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Picked up 0.30" of rain for the day. Current temp 47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Rapidly disappearing snow cover: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Another round of rain will move into the region tomorrow. Temperatures will run 5°-10° cooler than today's highs. The first week of March will see variable temperatures, even as the week averages cooler than normal. A short but sharp cold shot is possible near the end of the first week of March. Afterward, the ensembles are in good agreement that there will be a warming trend. Statistical guidance based on the state of the ENSO and forecast teleconnections implies that the first half of March could wind up generally 1°-3° above normal in the Middle Atlantic and southern New England regions. The latest dynamical guidance is suggests temperature anomalies toward the bottom of that range for the first half of March. During the 1991-2020 base period, the March 1-10 temperature has averaged 39.7° in New York City and 40.9° in Philadelphia. Measurable snow fell on 10% of days for both cities. During cases when the AO was +1.000 or above and the PNA was negative, the state of the SOI often made the difference between a colder/snowier or warmer/less snowy outcome. When the SOI was negative, the mean temperature in New York City was 39.5° and it was 39.6° in Philadelphia. Measurable snow fell on 20% of days in New York City and 17% of days in Philadelphia (well above the climatological frequency). When the SOI was positive, the mean temperature in New York City was 41.6° and it was 42.3° in Philadelphia. In such cases, measurable snow was observed on 13% of days in both cities. In sum, if this data holds up, even as a milder regime settles in, there could be some chance of a measurable snow event during the first 10 days of March in the northern Middle Atlantic region. Interior sections would likely be favored for measurable snow, as would central and upstate New York and New England. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -0.5°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.7°C for the week centered around February 17. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.47°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.93°C. La Niña conditions will likely prevail at least through mid-March. The SOI was +1.44 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was +2.496 today. On February 26 the MJO was in Phase 5 at an amplitude of 1.046 (RMM). The February 25-adjusted amplitude was 1.184. Over the past five days, the MJO has moved from Phase 7 to Phase 5. Based on the latest guidance, no significant stratospheric warming event is likely through the first week of March. This will be the last notice about the state of the stratosphere until next winter, as the typical seasonal warming lies ahead in March. The significant December 16-17 snowstorm during what has been a blocky December suggests that seasonal snowfall prospects have increased especially from north of Philadelphia into southern New England. At New York City, there is a high probability based on historic cases that an additional 20" or more snow will accumulate after December. Since January 1, New York City has picked up 28.1" snow. Winters that saw December receive 10" or more snow, less than 10" in January, and then 10" or more in February in New York City, saw measurable snowfall in March or April in 83% of cases. Winter 2009-2010 was the exception where only a trace of snow was recorded. This group of winters saw 6" or more snow during the March-April period in 50% of the cases. All said, it is more likely than not that there will be measurable snowfall after February. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 100% probability that New York City will have a colder than normal February. February will likely finish with a mean temperature near 33.9° (1.4° below normal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 18 hours ago, uncle W said: NYC's coldest max this winter is 25 in late January...it makes two years in a row with 25 being the coldest max...coldest max in NYC in modern times was the nine max in January 1985...2019-20 as bad as it was did have a very cold outbreak with a max of 14 and another teen max in January...2017-18 had five days with a max in the teens...the most in recent years is six in 1978-79 and 1981-82... winters total teen max and lowest max for NYC...2001-02 has the highest... 2020-21...0....25 2019-20...0....25 2018-19...2....14 2017-18...5....13 2016-17...0....23 2015-16...1....15 2014-15...1....19 2013-14...3....17 2012-13...0....20 2011-12...0....27. 2010-11...0....23. 2009-10...0....20 2008-09...1....16 2007-08...0....20 2006-07...1....18 2005-06...0....24 2004-05...2....18 2003-04...4....15 2002-03...1....15 2001-02...0....31 2000-01...0....25 1999-00...1....19 1998-99...0....25. 1997-98...0....29. 1996-97...1....17 1995-96...3....17 1994-95...0....20 1993-94...5....10 1992-93...0....27 1991-92...0....23 1990-91...0....20 1989-90...1....18 1988-89...0....20. 1987-88...1....17 1986-87...1....19 1985-86...0....22 1984-85...1......9 1983-84...3....13 1982-83...0....21 1981-82...6....15 1980-81...3....14 1979-80...0....21 1978-79...6....13 1977-78...0....21 1976-77...5....12 1975-76...2....15 1974-75...0....27 1973-74...0....22 1972-73...1....18. 1971-72...1....15 1970-71...4....12 1969-70...3....14 1968-69...0....22 1967-68...4....13 1966-67...1....16 1965-66...1....19 1964-65...3....16 1963-64...0....22 1962-63...1....13 1961-62...0....24 1960-61...2....19 1959-60...0....23 1958-59...0....22 1957-58...2....10 1956-57...1....12 1955-56...1....18 1954-55...1....17 1953-54...0....21 1952-53...0....29. 1951-52...0....20 1950-51...0....20 1949-50...0....22 1948-49...0....22. 1947-48...2....18. ...................................................................... 1942-43...2......8. 1935-36...4....16 1934-35...5....16 1933-34...6......8. 1917-18.12......2. 9 in Jan 1985? I thought it was 7 with a low of -2 lol. How many times has NYC seen a high of single digits or lower and do you have a breakdown of when it happened and what the min/max were on those days? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 wow 2017-18 was wild, I didn't realize it was that cold....of course 100 years before that takes the cake lol, 1917-18 was much colder than the much ballyhooed 1933-34 winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 17 hours ago, bluewave said: Newark actually made the top 10 for snowiest DJF. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Dec through Feb Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 1960-1961 69.5 0 2 2010-2011 66.0 0 3 1995-1996 62.8 0 4 2013-2014 60.5 0 5 1993-1994 55.8 0 6 1977-1978 52.9 0 7 2009-2010 47.9 0 8 1947-1948 47.0 2 9 2020-2021 45.7 2 10 2002-2003 44.8 0 Allentown did too I think, #7? That list is interesting, 1995-96 ended up #1 by a wide margin and 2002-03 ended up being much better than this snow season was, by virtue of the largest event being much larger and also getting a major event in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 The last day of February is averaging 38degs. Month to date is 33.8[-1.3]. February will end at 34.0[-1.3]. Another Switch-eroo for the GFS. The first 10 days of March are averaging 35degs. (28/42), or -5.0---but no snow showing. The first 8 days of March two years ago were -10.0 with 10" of snow. 44*(78%RH) here at 6am. Was 43* at 3am. 46* by 9am. 50* by Noon. 46* again at 1pm. after precipitation started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: Allentown did too I think, #7? That list is interesting, 1995-96 ended up #1 by a wide margin and 2002-03 ended up being much better than this snow season was, by virtue of the largest event being much larger and also getting a major event in April. Very unusual to get a snowy winter with such a tucked in storm track. This is only the 3rd time since 1996 that EWR had near 10” or more of snow than ISP or BNL. I use BNL before 2010 due to missing ISP snowfall data. This winter featured the record south based blocking and record warm SSTs east of New England. So this allowed the ridge to build east of New England with storm tracks very close to Southern NJ. Most other years we had more of a benchmark storm track further east favoring Suffolk over Newark. Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Ending Date Islip Snowfall Newark Snowfall 2021-04-30 33.5 45.7 2020-04-30 6.8 6.9 2019-04-30 12.8 22.0 2018-04-30 65.9 39.4 2017-04-30 39.3 30.0 2016-04-30 41.4 32.8 2015-04-30 63.7 46.4 2014-04-30 63.7 61.1 2013-04-30 46.9 29.5 2012-04-30 4.7 8.8 2011-04-30 55.3 68.2 2010-04-30 53.8 47.9 Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Ending Date Newark Snowfall Oct 1 to Apr 30 BNL LI Snowfall 2009-04-30 27.1 43 2008-04-30 14.6 11.5 2007-04-30 16.5 9.5 2006-04-30 37.9 30.5 2005-04-30 43.4 78.5 2004-04-30 47.8 60.2 2003-04-30 53.1 62.1 2002-04-30 3.6 5.5 2001-04-30 39.3 51.2 2000-04-30 18.4 14.0 1999-04-30 12.8 23.0 1998-04-30 6.9 4.5 1997-04-30 16.3 18.0 1996-04-30 78.4 90.7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: 9 in Jan 1985? I thought it was 7 with a low of -2 lol. How many times has NYC seen a high of single digits or lower and do you have a breakdown of when it happened and what the min/max were on those days? Thanks! heres what I got saved... NYC's Arctic outbreaks... Max..Min...dates...snowdepth... 22.....06.....0........0.....0...2/13-14/2016 15......-1.....0........0.....0 35.....13.....0........0.....0 ....................................................................... 17.....09.....0........0.....0...1/14-16/2004 18.....02.....0........0.....0 24.....01.....0........0.....0 .................................................................... 29.....06...0.06...2.5......3"...1/9-11/2004 15.....01...0.09...3.2......5" 27.....07.....0........0.......4" ........................................................................ 42.....32.....T........T........3".....1/25-27/1994 32.....05...0.32...4.5.......7"... 31.....00...0.06...0.1.......7" ......................................................................... 35.....04...0.22...1.0.......5"1/18-20/1994 10......-2.....0........0........5" 15.....00.....0........0........5" ....................................................................... 23.....04...0.02...0.5.......3"....1/20-22/1985 09......-2.....0........0........3" 31.....09.....0........0........3" .......................................... ............................................................................ 35.....19.....0........0.....6" 1/16-18/1982 19.....00.....0........0.....5" 15.....00.....0........0.....5" .......................................................................... 37.....20...0.10...1.0.....1"...12/24-26/1980 20......-1.....0........0......T 23.....08.....0........0......T ............................................................................. 13.....04.....0........0......3"...2/17-19/1979 17.....00.....0........0......3" 28.....17...0.85" 12.7" 16" ............................................................................. 26.....07...0.06...0.6.....6"...1/16-18/1977 12......-2.....0........0......6" 13.....02.....0........0......6" .......................................................................... 28.....05.....0........0.......1"...1/22-24/1976 15......-1.....T........T........1" 22.....14.....0........0........1" ............................................................................. 13.....02.....0........0.......3"..1/8-10/1968 14......-1...0.03...0.4......3" 17.....03.....T........T........3" ............................................................................ 44.....25.....0........0.....0...2/7-9/1963 25......-2.....0........0.....0 34.....11......T........T.....0 ......................................................................... 24.....03.....0........0.....8"...2/1-3/1961 20......-2.....0........0.....8" 28.....07...0.60...6.0...14" .......................................................................... 23.....06.....0........0.....0...1/14-16/1957 12.....00...0.06...2.0....2" 25.....11...0.16...2.9....4" ........................................................................ 28.....10...0.30...3.6.....4"..2/2-4/1955 17.....00.....0........0......3" 37.....08.....0........0......3" ........................................................................ 24.....04.....0........0.......9"1/30-2/1/1948 20.....00.....0........0.......9" 26.....09.....0........0.......9" ......................................................................... 30.....05.....0........0.......2"..2/14-16/1943 08......-8.....0........0.......2"... 22.....04.....0........0.......1" .......................................................................... 25.....08.....T........T.......1"...12/19-21/1942 08......-4.....0........0.......1" 21......-1.....0........0.......1" ........................................................................... 24......-3.....T.........T.......5".....1/23-25/1936 16.....04.....0.........0.......5" 20.....08.....0.........0.......5" ........................................................................... 18.....02.....0.........0.....11".....1/27-29/1935 25......-1.....0.........0....10" 34.....16.....T.........T.......8" .......................................................................... 21......-7.....0.........0.......3".....2/8-10/1934 08....-15.....0.........0.......3" 26......-2.....0.........0.......3" .......................................................................... 12......-3.....0.........0.......9".....12/29-31/1933 15......-6.....T.........T.......9" 42.....15.....0.........0.......7" ........................................................................ 36.....03.....0.........0.......0.....1/25-27/1927 25......-1.....0.........0.......0 44.....22...0.02".....T.......0 ......................................................................... 42.....04...0.60"...4.9"...10".....1/27-29/1925 14......-2...0.02"...0.2"...10" 34.....13...0.75"...1.3"...11" ......................................................................... 30.....05...0.04"...0.4".....4".....2/16-18/1922 17......-2.....0.........0......4" 34.....08.....0.........0......4" ........................................................................ 26......-1.....0.........0.......3".....1/31-2/2/1920 24......-2.....T.........T.......3" 40.....22.....0.........0.......2" ........................................................................... 21.....01...0.05"...1.8".....2".....12/17-19/1919 11......-1.....0.........0.......2" 20.....10...0.11"...1.9".....3" ........................................................................... 31.....00.....0.........0........6".......2/4-6/1918 04......-6.....0.........0........6" 38.....01.....0.........0........5" ........................................................................... 08......-6.....0.12"...2.0".....3".....12/29-1/4 1917-18 02.....-13......0.........0.......3" 06......-7.......0.........0.......3" 10......-4.......0.........0.......3" 10.....02.......T.........T.......3" 12.....00.......0.........0.......2" 18......-3.......0.........0.......2" ............................................. 23.....08.....0.........0........0......2/11-13/1917 12.....03.....0.........0........0 24.....00.....0.........0........0 ............................................ 21.....02......T.........T.......T.....2/11-13/1914 10......-3......0........0.......T 26......-1...0.29"....1.6"....2" ............................................... 33.....09......T.........T.......0.....01/12-14/1914 09......-3......0........0.......0 18......-5......0........0.......0 ............................................ 19.....05....0.35"....3.5"....3".....1/12-14/1912 08......-3......0.........0.......3" 23.....02......0.........0.......2" ......................................... 26.....12......0.........0.......T.....2/9-11/1912 13.....00......0.........0.......T 21......-1......0.........0.......T .............................................. 11......-2.......0........0.....6" est...2/9-13/1899 07......-6.......0........0.....6" est 09......-2.......0........0.....6" est 09.....04.....0.23....5.3...10" est 11.....06.....0.47...10.7...20" est .............................................. 44.....06.....0.02....0.5....T...2/16-18/1896 07......-5........0........0.....T 26.....01........0........0.....T ..................................................................... 18.....06........0........0.....0...1/5-7/1896 12......-2........0........0.....0 25.....06........0........0.....0 ............................................... 11.....00........0........0....3" est...2/5-8/1895 10......-4.......0........0....3" est 13.....06.....0.17....2.5..5" est 08.....02.....0.13....2.5..7" est ............................................... 16.....01........0........0.....T est...1/21-23/1888 14.....00........0........0.....T est 24.....07........0........0.....T est ............................................. 12.....00.....0.10....1.0"....4" est...2/4-6/1886 07......-4........0........0......4" est 20.....03.....0.01"....0.2"...4" est ............................................... 16.....07........0........0.....3" est...1/11-13/1886 08.....02........0........0.....2" est 14.....02........0........0.....2" est... ............................................... 16......-1........0........0.....T...12/19-21/1884 07......-3........0........0.....T 36.....07........0........0.....T ................................................... 25.....10........0........0.....6" est...12/22-24/1883 10......-1.....0.01....0.1....6" est 31.....07.....0.80....7.5"..12" est .............................................. 13.....00........0........0.....0-t est 1/23-25/1882 06......-6........0........0.....0 29.....03.....0.32....0.5....T est... .......................................... 21.....03.....0.10....2.0"est 4" est...2/1-3/1881 09......-3........0........0......3" est 18.....01........0........0......3" est ....................................... 32.....10........0.........0......T est...12/28-1/1/1880-81 10.....04.....0.28....4.0".....4" est 04......-6........0.........0......3" est 10.....03........0.........0......3" est 16.....01........0.........0......2" est .......................................... 33.....03.....0.15"....0.0"....2" est...1/2-4/1879 07......-4........0.........0......2" est 26.....06........0.........0......1" est .............................................. coldest days on record for KNYC...Max in single digits... date...............max min mean 12/20/1884.......7...-4...1.5 12/20/1942.......8...-3...2.5 12/29/1917.......8...-6...1.0 12/30/1917.......2.-13..-5.5 12/30/1880.......4...-6..-1.0 12/31/1917.......6...-7..-0.5 01/03/1879.......7...-4...1.5 01/12/1886.......8....2...5.0 01/13/1912.......8...-3...2.5 01/13/1914.......9...-3...3.0 01/21/1985.......9...-2...3.5 01/24/1882.......6...-6...0.0 02/02/1881.......9...-3...3.0 02/05/1918.......4...-6..-1.0 02/05/1886.......7...-4...1.5 02/08/1895.......8....2...5.0 02/09/1934.......8.-15..-3.5 02/10/1899.......7...-6...0.5 02/11/1899.......9...-2...3.5 02/12/1899.......9....4...6.5 02/15/1943.......8...-8...0.0 02/17/1896.......7...-5...1.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, bluewave said: Very unusual to get a snowy winter with such a tucked in storm track. This is only the 3rd time since 1996 that EWR had near 10” or more of snow than ISP or BNL. I use BNL before 2010 due to missing ISP snowfall data. This winter featured the record south based blocking and record warm SSTs east of New England. So this allowed the ridge to build east of New England with storm tracks very close to Southern NJ. Most other years we had more of a benchmark storm track further east favoring Suffolk over Newark. Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Ending Date Islip Snowfall Newark Snowfall 2021-04-30 33.5 45.7 2020-04-30 6.8 6.9 2019-04-30 12.8 22.0 2018-04-30 65.9 39.4 2017-04-30 39.3 30.0 2016-04-30 41.4 32.8 2015-04-30 63.7 46.4 2014-04-30 63.7 61.1 2013-04-30 46.9 29.5 2012-04-30 4.7 8.8 2011-04-30 55.3 68.2 2010-04-30 53.8 47.9 Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Ending Date Newark Snowfall Oct 1 to Apr 30 BNL LI Snowfall 2009-04-30 27.1 43 2008-04-30 14.6 11.5 2007-04-30 16.5 9.5 2006-04-30 37.9 30.5 2005-04-30 43.4 78.5 2004-04-30 47.8 60.2 2003-04-30 53.1 62.1 2002-04-30 3.6 5.5 2001-04-30 39.3 51.2 2000-04-30 18.4 14.0 1999-04-30 12.8 23.0 1998-04-30 6.9 4.5 1997-04-30 16.3 18.0 1996-04-30 78.4 90.7 Chris, do you think if a duplicate of the Dec 1992 noreaster had happened this season it would have been a big snow event for us? Because the track was astonishingly similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, uncle W said: heres what I got saved... NYC's Arctic outbreaks... Max..Min...dates...snowdepth... 22.....06.....0........0.....0...2/13-14/2016 15......-1.....0........0.....0 35.....13.....0........0.....0 ....................................................................... 17.....09.....0........0.....0...1/14-16/2004 18.....02.....0........0.....0 24.....01.....0........0.....0 .................................................................... 29.....06...0.06...2.5......3"...1/9-11/2004 15.....01...0.09...3.2......5" 27.....07.....0........0.......4" ........................................................................ 42.....32.....T........T........3".....1/25-27/1994 32.....05...0.32...4.5.......7"... 31.....00...0.06...0.1.......7" ......................................................................... 35.....04...0.22...1.0.......5"1/18-20/1994 10......-2.....0........0........5" 15.....00.....0........0........5" ....................................................................... 23.....04...0.02...0.5.......3"....1/20-22/1985 09......-2.....0........0........3" 31.....09.....0........0........3" .......................................... ............................................................................ 35.....19.....0........0.....6" 1/16-18/1982 19.....00.....0........0.....5" 15.....00.....0........0.....5" .......................................................................... 37.....20...0.10...1.0.....1"...12/24-26/1980 20......-1.....0........0......T 23.....08.....0........0......T ............................................................................. 13.....04.....0........0......3"...2/17-19/1979 17.....00.....0........0......3" 28.....17...0.85" 12.7" 16" ............................................................................. 26.....07...0.06...0.6.....6"...1/16-18/1977 12......-2.....0........0......6" 13.....02.....0........0......6" .......................................................................... 28.....05.....0........0.......1"...1/22-24/1976 15......-1.....T........T........1" 22.....14.....0........0........1" ............................................................................. 13.....02.....0........0.......3"..1/8-10/1968 14......-1...0.03...0.4......3" 17.....03.....T........T........3" ............................................................................ 44.....25.....0........0.....0...2/7-9/1963 25......-2.....0........0.....0 34.....11......T........T.....0 ......................................................................... 24.....03.....0........0.....8"...2/1-3/1961 20......-2.....0........0.....8" 28.....07...0.60...6.0...14" .......................................................................... 23.....06.....0........0.....0...1/14-16/1957 12.....00...0.06...2.0....2" 25.....11...0.16...2.9....4" ........................................................................ 28.....10...0.30...3.6.....4"..2/2-4/1955 17.....00.....0........0......3" 37.....08.....0........0......3" ........................................................................ 24.....04.....0........0.......9"1/30-2/1/1948 20.....00.....0........0.......9" 26.....09.....0........0.......9" ......................................................................... 30.....05.....0........0.......2"..2/14-16/1943 08......-8.....0........0.......2"... 22.....04.....0........0.......1" .......................................................................... 25.....08.....T........T.......1"...12/19-21/1942 08......-4.....0........0.......1" 21......-1.....0........0.......1" ........................................................................... 24......-3.....T.........T.......5".....1/23-25/1936 16.....04.....0.........0.......5" 20.....08.....0.........0.......5" ........................................................................... 18.....02.....0.........0.....11".....1/27-29/1935 25......-1.....0.........0....10" 34.....16.....T.........T.......8" .......................................................................... 21......-7.....0.........0.......3".....2/8-10/1934 08....-15.....0.........0.......3" 26......-2.....0.........0.......3" .......................................................................... 12......-3.....0.........0.......9".....12/29-31/1933 15......-6.....T.........T.......9" 42.....15.....0.........0.......7" ........................................................................ 36.....03.....0.........0.......0.....1/25-27/1927 25......-1.....0.........0.......0 44.....22...0.02".....T.......0 ......................................................................... 42.....04...0.60"...4.9"...10".....1/27-29/1925 14......-2...0.02"...0.2"...10" 34.....13...0.75"...1.3"...11" ......................................................................... 30.....05...0.04"...0.4".....4".....2/16-18/1922 17......-2.....0.........0......4" 34.....08.....0.........0......4" ........................................................................ 26......-1.....0.........0.......3".....1/31-2/2/1920 24......-2.....T.........T.......3" 40.....22.....0.........0.......2" ........................................................................... 21.....01...0.05"...1.8".....2".....12/17-19/1919 11......-1.....0.........0.......2" 20.....10...0.11"...1.9".....3" ........................................................................... 31.....00.....0.........0........6".......2/4-6/1918 04......-6.....0.........0........6" 38.....01.....0.........0........5" ........................................................................... 08......-6.....0.12"...2.0".....3".....12/29-1/4 1917-18 02.....-13......0.........0.......3" 06......-7.......0.........0.......3" 10......-4.......0.........0.......3" 10.....02.......T.........T.......3" 12.....00.......0.........0.......2" 18......-3.......0.........0.......2" ............................................. 23.....08.....0.........0........0......2/11-13/1917 12.....03.....0.........0........0 24.....00.....0.........0........0 ............................................ 21.....02......T.........T.......T.....2/11-13/1914 10......-3......0........0.......T 26......-1...0.29"....1.6"....2" ............................................... 33.....09......T.........T.......0.....01/12-14/1914 09......-3......0........0.......0 18......-5......0........0.......0 ............................................ 19.....05....0.35"....3.5"....3".....1/12-14/1912 08......-3......0.........0.......3" 23.....02......0.........0.......2" ......................................... 26.....12......0.........0.......T.....2/9-11/1912 13.....00......0.........0.......T 21......-1......0.........0.......T .............................................. 11......-2.......0........0.....6" est...2/9-13/1899 07......-6.......0........0.....6" est 09......-2.......0........0.....6" est 09.....04.....0.23....5.3...10" est 11.....06.....0.47...10.7...20" est .............................................. 44.....06.....0.02....0.5....T...2/16-18/1896 07......-5........0........0.....T 26.....01........0........0.....T ..................................................................... 18.....06........0........0.....0...1/5-7/1896 12......-2........0........0.....0 25.....06........0........0.....0 ............................................... 11.....00........0........0....3" est...2/5-8/1895 10......-4.......0........0....3" est 13.....06.....0.17....2.5..5" est 08.....02.....0.13....2.5..7" est ............................................... 16.....01........0........0.....T est...1/21-23/1888 14.....00........0........0.....T est 24.....07........0........0.....T est ............................................. 12.....00.....0.10....1.0"....4" est...2/4-6/1886 07......-4........0........0......4" est 20.....03.....0.01"....0.2"...4" est ............................................... 16.....07........0........0.....3" est...1/11-13/1886 08.....02........0........0.....2" est 14.....02........0........0.....2" est... ............................................... 16......-1........0........0.....T...12/19-21/1884 07......-3........0........0.....T 36.....07........0........0.....T ................................................... 25.....10........0........0.....6" est...12/22-24/1883 10......-1.....0.01....0.1....6" est 31.....07.....0.80....7.5"..12" est .............................................. 13.....00........0........0.....0-t est 1/23-25/1882 06......-6........0........0.....0 29.....03.....0.32....0.5....T est... .......................................... 21.....03.....0.10....2.0"est 4" est...2/1-3/1881 09......-3........0........0......3" est 18.....01........0........0......3" est ....................................... 32.....10........0.........0......T est...12/28-1/1/1880-81 10.....04.....0.28....4.0".....4" est 04......-6........0.........0......3" est 10.....03........0.........0......3" est 16.....01........0.........0......2" est .......................................... 33.....03.....0.15"....0.0"....2" est...1/2-4/1879 07......-4........0.........0......2" est 26.....06........0.........0......1" est .............................................. coldest days on record for KNYC...Max in single digits... date...............max min mean 12/20/1884.......7...-4...1.5 12/20/1942.......8...-3...2.5 12/29/1917.......8...-6...1.0 12/30/1917.......2.-13..-5.5 12/30/1880.......4...-6..-1.0 12/31/1917.......6...-7..-0.5 01/03/1879.......7...-4...1.5 01/12/1886.......8....2...5.0 01/13/1912.......8...-3...2.5 01/13/1914.......9...-3...3.0 01/21/1985.......9...-2...3.5 01/24/1882.......6...-6...0.0 02/02/1881.......9...-3...3.0 02/05/1918.......4...-6..-1.0 02/05/1886.......7...-4...1.5 02/08/1895.......8....2...5.0 02/09/1934.......8.-15..-3.5 02/10/1899.......7...-6...0.5 02/11/1899.......9...-2...3.5 02/12/1899.......9....4...6.5 02/15/1943.......8...-8...0.0 02/17/1896.......7...-5...1.0 wow thanks that 12/30/1917 day impresses me a lot more than 2/9/1934! We were that close to staying below zero all day! Do you have any snowfall measurements listed for the days of any of these extreme outbreaks? Maybe one of these recorded the coldest temperature in NYC with snow falling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Chris, do you think if a duplicate of the Dec 1992 noreaster had happened this season it would have been a big snow event for us? Because the track was astonishingly similar. Probably not since the easterly flow was so strong with that event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, bluewave said: Probably not since the easterly flow was so strong wit that event. so actually these storms being weaker played in our favor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: wow thanks that 12/30/1917 day impresses me a lot more than 2/9/1934! We were that close to staying below zero all day! Do you have any snowfall measurements listed for the days of any of these extreme outbreaks? Maybe one of these recorded the coldest temperature in NYC with snow falling? wow one of those days I think it was 1/4/1918 two inches of snow fell and the split was 8/-6 lmao.....2 inches of snow with 0.12" liquid, I'd think the ratios should have been like 100:1 Impressive that season had multiple arctic outbreaks with temps lower than -5 and one of them had 3 straight days with highs in the single digits and lows -6 or colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: so actually these storms being weaker played in our favor Yeah, this is our first snowy winter in a while when the heaviest snowstorms only had 990s mb pressures. Our last snowy winter in 17-18 featured the 950mb benchmark blizzard and other deep lows in March. Even 16-17 which was so warm , had the deeper MLSP blizzards mixed in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, bluewave said: Yeah, this is our first snowy winter in a while when the heaviest snowstorms only had 990s mb pressures. Our last snowy winter in 17-18 featured the 950mb benchmark blizzard and other deep lows in March. Even 16-17 which was so warm , had the deeper MLSP blizzards mixed in. Aside from the lack of extreme cold here, this winter has some storm track and storm strength similarities to 93-94, and precip type variability like that season too. I'd say this winter was a weird mix of 93-94 and 06-07. Both of those winters had snow or sleet events in March, so I'd say there is some hope for us to get to 40" even at JFK. One 6" event will do it. I dont think we'll get an April event this year as this is a 11 yr hot summer cycle and these usually start heating up in April but I wouldn't be shocked if we ended up with a 4-8 inch snowfall at any point in March. Wait 1977 had the May snow and was part of the 11 yr hot summer cycle so I guess anything's possible (even though that summer wasn't really hot, it had an extreme 2 week stretch when it hit 104 in late July, our 2nd hottest NYC temp on record, later tied in late July 2011.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Aside from the lack of extreme cold here, this winter has some storm track and storm strength similarities to 93-94, and precip type variability like that season too. I'd say this winter was a weird mix of 93-94 and 06-07. Both of those winters had snow or sleet events in March, so I'd say there is some hope for us to get to 40" even at JFK. One 6" event will do it. I dont think we'll get an April event this year as this is a 11 yr hot summer cycle and these usually start heating up in April but I wouldn't be shocked if we ended up with a 4-8 inch snowfall at any point in March. Wait 1977 had the May snow and was part of the 11 yr hot summer cycle so I guess anything's possible (even though that summer wasn't really hot, it had an extreme 2 week stretch when it hit 104 in late July, our 2nd hottest NYC temp on record, later tied in late July 2011.) This was a really unusual winter with the strong blocking displaced so far south. You can see how much warmer the US average temperature was than the 09-10 winter which was the last time we had a -1 or lower AO for all 3 winter months. So that resulted in the more tucked in storm track with the ridging and record warm SSTs east of New England. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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