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Jan 24-26th Potential Something Part 2


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5 minutes ago, Sciascia said:

How chaotic are we to interpret these runs since it’s yet another cycle without balloon data?

There were 3 soundings missing in the Southwestern US, which is significant given that is where the main southern trough/wave is located.

At the same time, soundings occurred as normal across most of the rest of the US and Canada, which allowed for the open field ahead of the southern wave and the northern stream to be fully sampled still.

So probably have some caution, but don't overthink it too much.

Edit: Also, some Mexico soundings were missing at times yesterday, but were available this morning.

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11 minutes ago, ILSNOW said:

Isnt it the Confluence in S Canada/N Lakes/Northeast bouncing around north and south each model run thats causing the issues?

 

That has been a large part of it, especially with how much the confluence over the Lakes/Northeast has been changing with time.

There have also been some changes with the main southern wave with how far north/south it ejects out, as well as changes with ridging ahead of it.

Another thing to watch, is the next trough coming into the West Coast, as that is actually somewhat acting as a kicker for our ejecting southern wave.

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13 minutes ago, Chicago Storm said:

There were 3 soundings missing in the Southwestern US, which is significant given that is where the main southern trough/wave is located.

At the same time, soundings occurred as normal across most of the rest of the US and Canada, which allowed for the open field ahead of the southern wave and the northern stream to be fully sampled still.

So probably have some caution, but don't overthink it too much.

Edit: Also, some Mexico soundings were missing at times yesterday, but were available this morning.

Agreed. Not sure it's as big an issue these days as it would've been decades ago, but the soundings still provide some value. It has been noted that there are far fewer aircraft soundings since COVID-19 started, which may account for some degradation in model performance over the past year.

This image below shows the other observations that are ingested into the ECMWF, for instance.

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