40/70 Benchmark Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Greg said: Do you really think I'm the only weather observer that measures every 24 hours? There are many others not to mention COOPS that do this. Airports are in another a World of their own. Other weather spotters do measure every 6 hours like you do. This creates a discrepancy in storm totals. This is why there is ambiguity when it comes to snowfall measuring techniques. No, I don't think you are the only one. However, I think your claim that it inflates snowfalls is bullshit. What it does is help to distinguish between snow depth and snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: No, I don't think you are the only one. However, I think your claim that it inflates snowfalls is bullshit. What it does is help to distinguish between snow depth and snowfall. I never said it inflates the snow by large amounts, no. 12 Hour storms, not a big deal at all to have any significance. Usually, I start to see the discrepancies at 24 Hours duration storms and beyond. Which are of course are somewhat rare in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Greg said: I never said it inflates the snow by large amounts, no. 12 Hour storms, not a big deal at all to have any significance. Usually, I start to see the discrepancies at 24 Hours duration storms and beyond. Which are of course are somewhat rare in itself. Right. At the end of the day, we enjoy snow and are going about our own methodology for obtaining the most accurate data possible. You make sure to delineate between any melting, and total snowfall, and I'll do the same with respect to snowfall and settled depth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 So much anger, so little time on this Earth. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: So much anger, so little time on this Earth. All over snow, Hate to see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: So much anger, so little time on this Earth. It's all good. It's just a discussion, not an argument. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Greg said: It's all good. It's just a discussion, not an argument. It's all good. I just hate to see good posters gone mad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: So much anger, so little time on this Earth. "Such a long, long time to be gone, such a short time to be there." Enjoy the weather, it's the only weather you've got. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 It’s almost not even worth debating snow measuring. It’s the most inconsistent and difficult variable to measure accurately. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 LR looking good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: LR looking good Tip just threw his laptop against the wall after seeing that geopotential gradient. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: Tip just threw his laptop against the wall after seeing that geopotential gradient. He breaks out into hives anytime the heights at Miami exceed 580dm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 LOL ... In any case, there is an emerging signal for a robust cold wave/event to transpire toward the end of the first week of Feb ...materializing probably in guidance more coherently - if so - while we feast or famine through the Feb 1-3rd ordeal ... It's a basic overview, but the MJO appears potent in guidance from multiple sourcing ( Euro/GFS/EPS/GEFs et all) through Phase 7 ... as a slow lurker but moderate wave potency in the RMM as most can easily go see/find.. But, that does correlate with the -AO ... which dun dun dunnnnn: -- SSW timing and that particular forcing mechanism begins ...basically today. LOL... no kidding though..timing the end of the first week of January puts day 20 mean correlation lag today. But, obviously there are no ridged rules ... but, we are seeing a renew downward mode of the AO out there between the 7th and 14th of February, as the MJO is propagating pretty potently in the RMM thru climate supportive Phase 7 and likely extrapolates into 8. The strengthening MJO on the left side of the RMM is actually the preferred correlation with the -AO...so that part of the statistical package is clad. What is a bit odd is that all of this sort of conflicts with the low amplitude La Nina footprint ... Having said that, I don't give a shit... The La Nina - imho - is almost impossible to parse out its influence from the HC expansion shit which is just as real... And the MJO is bursting out of that buried state is what it is ... and if it is in Phase 7 and successfully propaging ... this all becomes yet another form of 'teleconnector convergence' perhaps enough to overpower that low amplitude baser state. And we'd likely see a -EPO out of the concerted exertion over the total hemisphere when these get detected. That's my lean at this time... That's also a regime change that will replace this +PNAP ... quasi -NAO bouncing around... New storm chance ? It wouldn't be like this one here in the foreground - agreed.. If we get into a -EPO loading pattern, we squeeze things and herald anew a return to the velocity surplussing - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 45 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: LOL ... In any case, there is an emerging signal for a robust cold wave/event to transpire toward the end of the first week of Feb ...materializing probably in guidance more coherently - if so - while we feast or famine through the Feb 1-3rd ordeal ... It's a basic overview, but the MJO appears potent in guidance from multiple sourcing ( Euro/GFS/EPS/GEFs et all) through Phase 7 ... as a slow lurker but moderate wave potency in the RMM as most can easily go see/find.. But, that does correlate with the -AO ... which dun dun dunnnnn: -- SSW timing and that particular forcing mechanism begins ...basically today. LOL... no kidding though..timing the end of the first week of January puts day 20 mean correlation lag today. But, obviously there are no ridged rules ... but, we are seeing a renew downward mode of the AO out there between the 7th and 14th of February, as the MJO is propagating pretty potently in the RMM thru climate supportive Phase 7 and likely extrapolates into 8. The strengthening MJO on the left side of the RMM is actually the preferred correlation with the -AO...so that part of the statistical package is clad. What is a bit odd is that all of this sort of conflicts with the low amplitude La Nina footprint ... Having said that, I don't give a shit... The La Nina - imho - is almost impossible to parse out its influence from the HC expansion shit which is just as real... And the MJO is bursting out of that buried state is what it is ... and if it is in Phase 7 and successfully propaging ... this all becomes yet another form of 'teleconnector convergence' perhaps enough to overpower that low amplitude baser state. And we'd likely see a -EPO out of the concerted exertion over the total hemisphere when these get detected. That's my lean at this time... That's also a regime change that will replace this +PNAP ... quasi -NAO bouncing around... New storm chance ? It wouldn't be like this one here in the foreground - agreed.. If we get into a -EPO loading pattern, we squeeze things and herald anew a return to the velocity surplussing - I agree the -EPO signal is getting louder and louder. Euro weeklies were trying to hint at it the past couple runs, but not totally biting....however, as you hinted at in previous posts, that product probably can't really "see" the SSW consequences yet...or at least at the time they couldn't. Wouldn't be surprised if next run it shows a more robust signal for week 2 since the cross-guidance ensemble suites are all starting to show it at the end of their respective runs the last couple of days...and it's a pretty robust look too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Wow to my untrained eye looks cross country frigid! Except SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Quite the weenie run of the ensembles today. EPS shown here-GEFS above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Sou’easter screamer still there day 9. Please someone offer some hope here that we can trend that east and under us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Sou’easter screamer still there day 9. Please someone offer some hope here that we can trend that east and under us? Whats cool is there are multiple snow storm chances post cold frontal passage. Active snowy month. I remember I think in 2011 having a severe Thunderstorm with 2 feet of snow OTG . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Sou’easter screamer still there day 9. Please someone offer some hope here that we can trend that east and under us? Those always lock in this far out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Those always lock in this far out It really is uncanny. Those never waver.. yet snowstorms always do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: It really is uncanny. Those never waver.. yet snowstorms always do We've explained this a millions times to you people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: It really is uncanny. Those never waver.. yet snowstorms always do Except the hundred times over the years where modeled cutters evolve to secondaries. You even asked . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Pattern seems meh. I know we have a Greenland Ridge and -EPO...but just sort of meh when I look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Pattern seems meh. I know we have a Greenland Ridge and -EPO...but just sort of meh when I look at it. Too flat/suppressed on that look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: Too flat/suppressed on that look? Maybe overruning or late bloom potential, but every time I see these patterns we have cutter risks. I'm not saying it will be bad..hell maybe we get good luck. Just my overall thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Except the hundred times over the years where modeled cutters evolve to secondaries. You even asked . Don’t like the look going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Maybe overruning or late bloom potential, but every time I see these patterns we have cutter risks. I'm not saying it will be bad..hell maybe we get good luck. Just my overall thought. Thanks. Hopefully all the talk of the weakened polar vortex keeps the NAO/AO negative. Hope MJO makes phase 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Don’t like the look going forward Who cares , put your energy on Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Who cares , put your energy on Monday I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Don’t like the look going forward Uh ? After the cutter , we will get rolling again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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