MJO812 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Gfs comes back to reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, MJO812 said: Gfs comes back to reality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: Thanks for the images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Thanks for the images Don't think you will like this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: Don't think you will like this one Uh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Cmc coming in more north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Cmc coming in more north 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: Don't think you will like this one What’s wrong with 4-6 inches for nyc? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, PoZitron20 said: Early signs 00z ECMWF might not be much different than 00z GFS 00z CMC combo... Euro isn't even out yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Now we are under 5 days I think if 0z euro is on board then we might have something here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 44 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said: Now we are under 5 days I think if 0z euro is on board then we might have something here. Looking at a nice, solid event. Probably nothing major, but that could come after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 7 hours ago, bluewave said: Areas NE of NYC will have to watch the dewpoints this weekend. The Euro was really struggling to get the snow into New England next week with so much dry air being modeled. We usually need to get to within the NAMs best range to know exactly where the cutoff in snowfall will set up. looks like the south shore will be a good place to be for the storms next week, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, NEG NAO said: Don't think you will like this one whats causing a foot plus across central and NE PA? elevation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 So the GFS finally caves to the Euro, UK, and CMC tonight and then the Euro fizzles for us...just not much precip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Good morning this Friday Jan 22: Think consensus is developing that most here will enjoy a significant plowable snow event late Monday-Tuesday. My take below based on 00z/22 ops and EPS/GEFS/NAEFS, and 06z GFS op. Travelers into the northeast USA Noon Monday- 6PM Tuesday the 25th-26th: While still some uncertainty, if you have travel plans into the I84-I80 corridors or I95 Baltimore to NYC-New Haven Monday Night-Tuesday morning, prepare for delays due to snow, except snow-ice I78 southward in NJ to Baltimore. Expecting amounts to range from ~1" or less I90 in Mass (could be zero if the storm stays south), to an uncertain 1-5" CT with the least in northeast Connecticut (Ashford) and a less than certain forecast there, to between 4-7" se NYS, and 5-9" ne PA, nw NJ. The high side 9" amount is no guarantee but it's in some of the modeling. Best chance of 9" in ne PA is along I80. LI/NYC my expectation this early is 1 to maybe as much as 6"??? with the best chance of 3"+ western LI/NYC. I expect plowing will be needed most of our area except maybe n CT/MA/ and the region along or just southeast of I95 BWI-NYC. Temps will be subfreezing throughout the event except if it starts Monday afternoon when it will take an hour or two to drop below freezing. Baltimore-Philly is in the ice-snow zone so amounts of each element will depend on duration but it will get slippery there for a time, possibly as early as Noon Monday. Finally: the end of this event should be Tuesday afternoon, but it's possible that it could linger into the wee predawn hours of Wednesday? Attached a NWS graphic ensemble 30+% chance of 3+" of snow Monday into early Tuesday. Blue is 50+%. This gives an idea of the focus only through 7AM Tuesday and it will snow beyond 7AM Tuesday- so this is conservative. Also the 00z/22 NAEFS qpf for the 24 hr period ending 00z/27 with .4" = to the 10MM line, and also the sfc temp for near 00z./27 which shows 0C along I95. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northof78 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Early, but N/C NJ to me looks like 3-6/4-8” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Northof78 said: Early, but N/C NJ to me looks like 3-6/4-8” Gfs is further north at 6z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, bluewave said: My guess is the NAM will be the tiebreaker vote between the Euro and CMC. The Euro has a stronger 50/50 low and drier air in New England. While the CMC is weaker with the 50/50 and less dry air in New England. The NAM usually does really well with these features once within its best range. Eps just came more north of 0z. 6z Euro is also north of 0z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 53 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Gfs is further north at 6z So Euro is now the outlier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said: So Euro is now the outlier? Gfs Euro ticked north at 6z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossbowftw3 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, MJO812 said: Gfs Euro ticked north at 6z Some genuinely cold nights ahead after this frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Gfs Euro ticked north at 6z Thanks for posting, any further north and the city might mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said: Thanks for posting, any further north and the city might mix. Here is the next frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 hours ago, LibertyBell said: whats causing a foot plus across central and NE PA? elevation? I think more so heavier precip further west. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 12Z GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 weird how it just craps out as it moves east..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: weird how it just craps out as it moves east..... Goes to crap during transfer to delmarva coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 The NAM at 84 meanwhile has practically no indication this would come north of the PA/MD border 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Canadian furthest NE with accums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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