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Feb Long Range Discussion (Day 3 and beyond) - MERGED


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  On 2/15/2021 at 11:44 PM, psuhoffman said:

it is pathetic compared to the 6-12” shown on the GFS/PARA/UK/Euro/CMC.  When we have a consensus across ALL guidance for a bigger event I don’t think there is anything wrong with setting the bar higher. But you NEVER hear me complain during an event. If we only get a few inches so be it. But we can and should aim higher here. 

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Okie dokie 

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  On 2/15/2021 at 11:57 PM, psuhoffman said:

Yea I took a trip up to penn mar park on Catoctin/South Mountain today with the kids. Played in the snow. Now they have true snowpack. I was envious.  At least double what I have here. More like triple. 

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Man, you were up my way! Amazing how much snow pack the catoctins/ cascade area  still have. I travel route 77 over the catoctins ( Cunningham falls state park)  each day to work and they still have well over a foot on the ground. They'll probably have a snow pack up there through the first half of March. 

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  On 2/15/2021 at 11:50 PM, psuhoffman said:

The spread is crazy though. The gfs is slightly SE of the other globals but honestly the globals on a whole are in amazing agreement. Most consensus we’ve had all season really. Then the NAM is in its own parallel universe.  At 72 hours the globals have the snow/sleet line running through northern VA and near DC. The NAM has it around Binghamton. I’ve rarely seen that much divergence before.  And it actually starts earlier then that. By like 48 hours you can see major differences to our west that lead to the tangent solution.  It’s weird. 

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RGEM is there too though. Not quite as much but nothing like the globals. 

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Euro continued the trend of having confluence linger north of us (which hasn't stopped for maybe the past 48-72hrs), but it seems like the SW might be a bit amped and it's a bit slower, allowing heights to rise a bit in front. At least that's the explanation that I can see, since the GFS is like 6hrs faster and doesn't allow heights to rise as much in front. 

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  On 2/16/2021 at 12:08 AM, Chris78 said:

Man, you were up my way! Amazing how much snow pack the catoctins/ cascade area  still have. I travel route 77 over the catoctins ( Cunningham falls state park)  each day to work and they still have well over a foot on the ground. They'll probably have a snow pack up there through the first half of March. 

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Is that normal for up there or just a good year?  I know the one coop in the area averages about what I do but they could be in a local minimum. 

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  On 2/16/2021 at 12:15 AM, Cobalt said:

Euro Continued the trend of having confluence linger north of us (which hasn't stopped for maybe the past 48-72hrs), but it seems like the SW might be a bit amped and it's a bit slower, allowing heights to rise a bit in front. At least that's the explanation that I can see, since the GFS is like 6hrs faster and doesn't allow heights to rise as much in front. 

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This is how much QPF falls before 850s give way (and 700s shortly after) for DC and southeast. Areas NW hold onto snow longer.

ecmwf-deterministic-dc-precip_24hr_inch-3671200.png

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  On 2/16/2021 at 12:20 AM, CAPE said:

lol I realize that.

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Haha I'm so bitter man. I feel for you. I grew up in Ellicott City, lived in Seattle for a two years (where I actually got lucky with a couple storms), then was absolutely blessed to live in Yonkers and Harlem for six years total. 

I can honestly say that Ellicott City is closer to New York than DC. Like, it's not even close. This is miserable. 

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  On 2/15/2021 at 11:44 PM, psuhoffman said:

it is pathetic compared to the 6-12” shown on the GFS/PARA/UK/Euro/CMC.  When we have a consensus across ALL guidance for a bigger event I don’t think there is anything wrong with setting the bar higher. But you NEVER hear me complain during an event. If we only get a few inches so be it. But we can and should aim higher here. 

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Yeah you're a teacher alright :lol:

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