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Just now, vortmax said:

I find it quite amazing that the models are struggling so much, so close to the event.  

They did the normal "3 days out look pretty good" and now 1 to 2 days away, they take it away.

I think we stand a better chance over here than you guys do in the ROC area....but I hope we all can get in on it. It definitely seems like a situation that "wherever" the banding sets up Saturday morning is where the 3 to 6 inches will fall, while the area around it get an inch or two.

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6 minutes ago, SyracuseStorm said:

Well, let’s hope it meanders down our way and the models aren’t right.  Get a band that swings back n forth between northern Onondaga and Wolfie

I’m hoping the band makes it to extreme northern Onondaga County like the band on December 29 that gave me 13 inches (half of my seasonal total so far).

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5 minutes ago, SyracuseStorm said:

I lived in Cicero prior to BVille and much more snow in Cicero & Brewerton area.

My niece lives just west of Central Square off 49 and she probably gets 50% more snow than me. We always joke that the Brewerton bridge over the end of the lake is the line of demarcation. I like to call it the Arctic circle, lol. 

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3 minutes ago, CNY_WX said:

My niece lives just west of Central Square off 49 and she probably gets 50% more snow than me. We always joke that the Brewerton bridge over the end of the lake is the line of demarcation. I like to call it the Arctic circle, lol. 

Lmao!  It is so true!  Central Square is in the snow belt.

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8 minutes ago, CNY_WX said:

My niece lives just west of Central Square off 49 and she probably gets 50% more snow than me. We always joke that the Brewerton bridge over the end of the lake is the line of demarcation. I like to call it the Arctic circle, lol. 

That settles it...Hinmansville/Fulton/Volney area is my next move. :) 

Enjoy your snow while you have it.

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.NEAR TERM /THROUGH SATURDAY/...
Ridging over the Adirondacks this morning will give way to a mature
cyclone that will lumber across the Upper Mid West. The large
disturbance will push an occlusion across our region late today and
tonight. While dry weather will be in place through midday...light
rain (mixed rain/snow Srn Tier) will develop ahead of the occlusion
later this afternoon for the western counties. It will also become
quite breezy...esp across the Southern Tier and in the vcnty of the
Chautauqua ridge in particular. A robust LLJ will promote downslope
winds of 35 to 40 mph between Lk Erie and the ridge...and also
across the higher terrain.

The occlusion will steadily push across the western counties
tonight. Mixed rain and snow will change to mainly wet snow
overnight within the colder air in the wake of the occlusion. Many
areas will pick up a coating of snow...with an inch of two possible
over the Srn Tier and as much as three inches on the Tug Hill.

The front will continue to make its way across the Eastern Lake
Ontario region Saturday morning...where widespread steady wet snow
could accumulate another three to five inches. A winter storm watch
is in effect for this area. The remainder of the region will pick up
scattered snow showers that could leave a coating to as much as an
inch across the higher terrain well south of Buffalo and Rochester.

&&

.SHORT TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/...
...Plowable Snowfall Expected East of Both Lakes...

A large...stacked cyclone directly over our forecast area Saturday
evening will gradually open up and exit across New England late
Saturday night and Sunday. Relatively cold air with a very moist
environment will then interact with the lakes to provide lake
enhanced snowfall across the region...especially in the snowbelts
east of both lakes. As much as a foot of snow will be possible in
the vcnty of the Tug Hill during this 24 hour period with lesser
amounts forecast for the Chautauqua ridge. The remainder of the
region will pick up an inch or so accumulation.

Lake enhanced snows should persist through Sunday night for areas
east of Lake Erie and also along the south shore of Lake Ontario...
although a lowering cap will limit additional accumulations.

&&

.LONG TERM /MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/...
The next disturbance within the longwave trough pushes across the
Lower Great lakes on Monday...producing scattered snow showers for
the bulk of our region. Lake enhanced areas east of each lake could
pick up a couple inches of accumulation.

Relative lull Monday night into Tuesday with weak ridging ahead of
next clipper. Still some lake snows possible though east and
southeast of the lakes.

Next clipper to impact the region Tuesday night and Wednesday with
another round of snow showers. Accumulations should not be
significant.

Warm advection ahead of next front to support the chance for more
light snow on Thursday.

ECMWF model of choice through the period
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Still some discrepancy wrt Saturday morning..

Both GFS models continue to show a strong band of precip slowly moving through..

Gfs OP has most of it as rain which I'm not so sure about..Para is colder and mostly snow..This could make or break this event for parts of CNY that get left out of any enhancement..

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29 minutes ago, Syrmax said:

Rain...in mid Jan with slp east of here. Glad I threw in the towel on this winter back in mid December. We'll always have that 3 hrs of lake effect from a  couple weeks ago. They can't take that away from us!!

I’m not sure why you’re complaining about his weekend’s weather (other than it seems to be the thing to do on here).  We all knew that with the primary low to our west we were going to warm up enough to rain until colder air comes in behind the occluded front. The majority of the weekend shows enough signs for snow around here to at least make things interesting. It’s been said that a hitter will almost always end up hitting to the back of his baseball card. We still have 2 months left in this winter.  Let’s see if we can revert to the means.  If so things could get interesting around here. 

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