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January Storm Term Threat Discussions (Day 3 - Day 7)


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5 minutes ago, MD Snow said:

CMC pretty much misses everybody including the northeast with any coastal snows. Just light stuff. Looks to be off sure. ULL goes south of us but just light stuff through 162. 

 

 

Is that.. son of TPV 1 up in Maine?? This is giving me deja vu because I could've sworn that the Canadian was the first to pick up on this feature for the Thurs event

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Just now, MD Snow said:

if 3-6" is considered light...

Looks like the overrunning was more of a 2 to 4 type deal and then the area picks up another 1 or 2 inches over the next 24 hours with the upper level support.

So yea not light but didn't really get anything heavy into the area either. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Cobalt said:

Is that.. son of TPV 1 up in Maine?? This is giving me deja vu because I could've sworn that the Canadian was the first to pick up on this feature for the Thurs event

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Yeah...interesting....that feature was there on the CMC for yesterday's 12z run and it was a MECS. Snowed for 2 days. If indeed that feature is there I think it'll come down to how they interact. Also, the TPV isn't what suppressed the Thursday event. It's the fact that today's sw just sits in the northeast and doesn't allow Thursdays sw to amplify. 

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8 minutes ago, Cobalt said:

Is that.. son of TPV 1 up in Maine?? This is giving me deja vu because I could've sworn that the Canadian was the first to pick up on this feature for the Thurs event

Just now, MD Snow said:

Yeah...interesting....that feature was there on the CMC for yesterday's 12z run and it was a BECS. Snowed for 2 days. If indeed that feature is there I think it'll come down to how they interact. 

 

yea, i thought the run looked better at 500 until that showed up.  it's too early anyway for snowfall maps and what not at 6-7 days out.  certainly looked cold enough.  how strong is the primary, how much gulf interaction, trough orientation, where will the coastal form, how much confluence...too early.  probably best to focus on the ensembles today.

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15 minutes ago, MD Snow said:

No. A general 3-6 for the MA mostly from the "thump."

All models are showing a borderline warning level event, at a minimum. You'd think based off the vibes right now it's winter canceled.  

Come on.  It's only one person and his tired act.    Most everyone else is fine with it.

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3 minutes ago, LeesburgWx said:

Would you rather have the Euro being the only model showing no snow or the only model showing snow?

Tough proposition, especially for @Ji

euro has ukmet, jma, icon.  pretty much the same models that dismissed Thursdays storm

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10 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

UK is perfectly acceptable. 4-6” through 144 and still snowing 

 

11 minutes ago, DDweatherman said:

It would be hard to argue with 4-8" of cold, high ratio smoke regardless of what happens after and if it the coastal turns this into a MECS. 

 

11 minutes ago, baltosquid said:

Ukie looks nice, honestly could be a bit TOO far south/off the coast in some respects. Wouldn't be as good as 00z Euro (though can't say for certain since the run ends too soon to really get a sense of the kind of coastal it may or may not have) but not bad.

 

14 minutes ago, DCTeacherman said:

UK looks good to me, the coastal development happens at a more favorable latitude for us than the GFS/Para.

 

ETA: And it's really cold throughout

 

14 minutes ago, Dabuckeyes said:

UKIE is a solid hit.  4-8 inches region wide and it appears to still be snowing at 144

How was the UKIE?

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So far, it seems like the GFS is the only model that wants to get rid of the confluence early. Even at the tail end of the long meso runs (NAM 12 and RGEM) the GFS is already starting to pull away to the east. It would be a great show of force for the model if it does indeed verify with a faster exit, but right now it's pretty much alone it appears.

Edit: FWIW, NAVGEM looks pretty good too but not really one of the models to take cues from.

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