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January Storm Term Threat Discussions (Day 3 - Day 7)


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2 minutes ago, LP08 said:

Still rain at 120...I know the gfs thermals are not usually good but...seriously 

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Double bind... unfortunately there just isn’t enough cold to make any storm “easy”. The amount of suppression we need to stop warmth from surging north also is very close to be too much to allow anything to amplify. Do there is a very very very narrow margin we’re playing in and to get a big snow we will have to play with fire either way. There isn’t enough cold to get some huge shield of cold smoke to the north of a storm. Everything at our latitude and south is going to have to be dynamically driven. 

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7 minutes ago, Ji said:

Weaker cause of ull pressing south a bit more?

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No It was just weaker. Took the same track until it hit the east coast then it’s shoved south more by the flow because it’s weaker. It was just weaker. Maybe the more south tpv had some impact. Compressing the flow a bit.  It was slightly weaker pretty early on though.  But while everyone is stressing the rain the real issue is it was a definite trend towards the euro. Remember the euro isn’t really south it’s just weaker.

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5 minutes ago, ryanconway63 said:

If storm takes that track with that setup, everybody on this board would score nicely......id take my chances.....

Yeah, I mean, I don't really buy those boundary layer temps on the GFS.  But seriously, WTF?  It's not coming up with those by magic.  

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Just now, North Balti Zen said:

Main takeaway I have is that it is still miles apart from the Euro since it still shows a dynamic storm. 

Yes but remember the discussion about the GFS and it's data...if true, and we see 18z get a little worse again, (and no improvement on the euro) this could be the beginning of the ticks...

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1 minute ago, psuhoffman said:

I think it’s maybe time to stop tip toeing around it. We all know what the issue is. 

i dont buy that. Spain had a blizzard a few weeks ago. Lebanon/Middle East/UK. Japan had record snow. Lousiana got 9 inches

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GFS showing my concern from last night about the lingering low up in PA preventing the cold press in the boundary layer. Thus we rely on dynamic cooling which is going to be very dependent on where the bands set up (if this gets within meso range, expect to see colder sfc temps line up with heavier precip). Weaker system means we lose this effect and get rain. Good news I guess is that this is the bias I'd expect the GFS to show at this range and the para looks good. I'd still rather see the progression that Canadian was showing last night - it moved the low out of PA faster and had a better CAD setup ahead of the storm. But it is trending towards the GFS setup at 12Z.

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2 minutes ago, Ji said:

i dont buy that. Spain had a blizzard a few weeks ago. Lebanon/Middle East/UK. Japan had record snow. Lousiana got 9 inches

Weird things happen.  We're not done with snow.  But damn its ABUNDANTLY clear it's harder to get it around here.  There's no cold air anywhere!!

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