DownpourDave Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 out west through 84 hours the euro and gfs actually look remarkably similar. The differences I see is that the shortwave is more amplified on the gfs vs the euro. PV is in a similar placement on both models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownpourDave Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 it is already clear at 96 hours that the euro will not be like the gfs. Shortwave is not digging as much out west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, yoda said: I thought that you went to bed already cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, SnowLover22 said: out west through 84 hours the euro and gfs actually look remarkably similar. The differences I see is that the shortwave is more amplified on the gfs vs the euro. PV is in a similar placement on both models. 1 minute ago, SnowLover22 said: it is already clear at 96 hours that the euro will not be like the gfs. Shortwave is not digging as much out west. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 850s are certainly Cold enough at 120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownpourDave Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, SnowLover22 said: it is already clear at 96 hours that the euro will not be like the gfs. Shortwave is not digging as much out west. 8 minutes ago, SnowLover22 said: out west through 84 hours the euro and gfs actually look remarkably similar. The differences I see is that the shortwave is more amplified on the gfs vs the euro. PV is in a similar placement on both models. @NorthArlington101 not digging as much and less amplified go hand in hand generally. A shortwave that does not dig will generally not be amplified as a shortwave that really digs especially if it is able to tilt negatively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 850s are certainly Cold enough at 120850s was never the issue smhSent from my SM-G981V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinInTheSky Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 This looks pretty different from the GFS, I'm switching between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Snowing in DCA by 129 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just now, Ji said: 850s was never the issue smh Sent from my SM-G981V using Tapatalk so its NOTHING like the gfs/cmc wrt strenght...we need the wave to be stronger and not deamplify as it comes across as much... but imo just looking at h5 the euro made baby steps the right way. Slightly more amplified early on, slightly more ridging..little further north track of the h5 low. But it simply needs to be more amplified to initiate the result of the GFS or even the GGEM. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Euro hates us with every fiber of our being Sent from my SM-G981V using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Doesn't look like it's gonna be the beast the GFS had, but we all knew it wasn't gonna be that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Pretty much performed as expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 so its NOTHING like the gfs/cmc wrt strenght...we need the wave to be stronger and not deamplify as it comes across as much... but imo just looking at h5 the euro made baby steps the right way. Slightly more amplified early on, slightly more ridging..little further north track of the h5 low. But it simply needs to be more amplified to initiate the result of the GFS or even the GGEM. It's not even close. Its a horrific run. Sent from my SM-G981V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Doesn't look like its gonna be anything significant for most of us (central Va folks might be good with it) but it appears to be a step in the right direction, imo. jk sucks for all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinInTheSky Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I should have gone to sleep lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 WB OZ Euro, GFS Can 7am Th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Doesn't look like it's gonna be the beast the GFS had, but we all knew it wasn't gonna be that good.It's not even 80% of what the Canadian had. How can icon ggem and gfs see a big storm and euro won't Sent from my SM-G981V using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanatos_I_Am Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 The worst part is knowing deep down the Euro would whiff again, but the inner weenie had me checking each frame. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 WB OZ Euro, GFS Can 7am ThPlease stop dude Sent from my SM-G981V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siberian-Snowcover-Myth Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Should’ve gone to bed early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDreamer Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 North tick, slightly more QPF up close to DC. I’ll take the progress. Still a long way to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar of Herndon Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 kumbaya... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Places that got 36" on GFS get a cartopper...that's a step off a plank.For it being so close to game time it's a step in the wrong direction Sent from my SM-G981V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ji said: It's not even close. Its a horrific run. Sent from my SM-G981V using Tapatalk NO...do you remember last nights run? That was a horrific run. If this showed a central NC hit right now...that would be a problem we probably can say we wont recover from. Look at the track of the h5 feature. Look at the track of the precip before it dies during the "transfer" because the system is too weak to initiate a healthy secondary in time. Its heading right for us. The only adjustment we need here is more amplified with the wave and we have a storm. Don't need a track adjustment of the major feature. Don't need some major thermal changes. We just need one thing...and maybe we don't get the GFS op idea...but if the euro is just slightly more amplified we at least get a nice snow event. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just now, SnowDreamer said: North tick, slightly more QPF up close to DC. I’ll take the progress. Still a long way to go. I agree. WB EURO 0Z today compared to yesterday OZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Ji said: For it being so close to game time it's a step in the wrong direction Sent from my SM-G981V using Tapatalk Actually it was a baby step in the right direction...still closer than 12z or last night's 0z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just now, Deck Pic said: GFS gives us 50x more snow than the euro. I like the optimism, but toss the GFS. yea no that GFS run was fun but I think most of us know that's a max potential only if all the stars aligned thing. I would be happy if we could just compromise...get the euro to amp up just a little...and get a nice simple snow event across the area out of this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Deck Pic said: GFS gives us 50x more snow than the euro. I like the optimism, but toss the GFS. I already had my 2021 January Blizzard t-shirts made though... guess they'll have to be shipped off to wherever they send the super bowl loser t-shirts. 1 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 NO...do you remember last nights run? That was a horrific run. If this showed a central NC hit right now...that would be a problem we probably can say we wont recover from. Look at the track of the h5 feature. Look at the track of the precip before it dies during the "transfer" because the system is too weak to initiate a healthy secondary in time. Its heading right for us. The only adjustment we need here is more amplified with the wave and we have a storm. Don't need a track adjustment of the major feature. Don't need some major thermal changes. We just need one thing...and maybe we don't get the GFS op idea...but if the euro is just slightly more amplified we at least get a nice snow event. I wasn't worried about a north shift. .I was worried how a model with such high resolution is just going to create a strong shortwave that amplifies in 60 hours when it's not showing it now. A model that has a bias of overamping nonetheless Sent from my SM-G981V using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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