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Winter Banter and General Disco 2


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7 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

Oh yeah. I recall that.   Out where I live everyone uses septic systems. In towns nearby that have town sewer they don’t feed into MWRA and they don’t test that I know of 

Yeah we are part of the MWRA here, but both of our parents have septic too. I think it gives us a good idea all around anyways.

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i think Ryan stated upthread that the goal of the initial lockdowns was the "flatten the curve" to protect the collapse of our healthcare system. it worked for the most part. the goal was never to have zero covid cases, but that seems to be Fauci's want right now, which again as stated above, is impossible.

The vaccines don't even 100% protect you from getting covid. However they are 99+% at preventing severe cases of covid, which is really good. But the messaging out there has not reached the general public, aside from us educated folks. It needs to be stated clearly and frequently that even though you have gotten the vaccine, you may still get covid. 

Twitter is going to go haywire the first time that someone who has gotten the vaccine gets covid. 

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5 minutes ago, SJonesWX said:

i think Ryan stated upthread that the goal of the initial lockdowns was the "flatten the curve" to protect the collapse of our healthcare system. it worked for the most part. the goal was never to have zero covid cases, but that seems to be Fauci's want right now, which again as stated above, is impossible.

The vaccines don't even 100% protect you from getting covid. However they are 99+% at preventing severe cases of covid, which is really good. But the messaging out there has not reached the general public, aside from us educated folks. It needs to be stated clearly and frequently that even though you have gotten the vaccine, you may still get covid. 

Twitter is going to go haywire the first time that someone who has gotten the vaccine gets covid. 

Already happened. Some people, anecdotal of course contracted covid between their 2 shots. The best protection will be ~2-3 wks after the 2nd dose.

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20 minutes ago, SJonesWX said:

i think Ryan stated upthread that the goal of the initial lockdowns was the "flatten the curve" to protect the collapse of our healthcare system. it worked for the most part. the goal was never to have zero covid cases, but that seems to be Fauci's want right now, which again as stated above, is impossible.

The vaccines don't even 100% protect you from getting covid. However they are 99+% at preventing severe cases of covid, which is really good. But the messaging out there has not reached the general public, aside from us educated folks. It needs to be stated clearly and frequently that even though you have gotten the vaccine, you may still get covid. 

Twitter is going to go haywire the first time that someone who has gotten the vaccine gets covid. 

Thankfully Twitter is not real life!

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2 hours ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

The poop seems to be the most accurate predictor of trends imho.  Are they doing it in other places beside MWRA?

im also looking forward to warmer weather to drink beers outdoors at breweries.  That was always my preference before the Vid

Have you been to the new one in Woodstock CT?

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42 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:

Already happened. Some people, anecdotal of course contracted covid between their 2 shots. The best protection will be ~2-3 wks after the 2nd dose.

My mother contracted Covid like 2 weeks after her first shot. It’s not even that uncommon, I’ve heard several similar stories. Especially between the first and second shot 

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49 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

Happy to see that I am now eligible for getting vaccinated, although I am thinking it will take me a while to find an appointment.

I really think supermarket workers, etc should be ahead of me in line though

According to some people on here you don't need it

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1 minute ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

520000

 

17 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said:

According to some people on here you don't need it

Based on my experience don’t bother.  We can’t say anything because then the Covidiots start spewing even more nonsense and all Covid talk gets shut down.

which actually is better than reading these posts...so maybe attack away? 

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3 hours ago, CT Rain said:

Thankfully Twitter is not real life!

unfortunately some people take whatever they read on Twitter as gospel. same goes for any social media of course.

i am sure you already knew that though

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57 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

2 years ago tonight was really the mother of all thumps. I'll leave this quote right here from Dendrite about Blue Hill:

 

That’s 0.89” in 3hr. That is batshit crazy.  Nearly 0.40" was in 1hr. 

Heh. What’s ironic is I was just going through the 12/17 obs thread over the past hour. 

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5 hours ago, CT Rain said:

Thankfully Twitter is not real life!

Heh, reminds me of a separate problem...   too many think it does -

(not you per se ) but here's the deal - when you have population of 8 billion Global inhabitants gradually supifying by modern-convenience-addling ... pretty much losing their ability for critical weighting of incoming information and data in an objective filtration, they will believe Twitter is truth. 

So be it - right?

Except that a quarter of 8 is 2 ...     2         BILLION.   

Scale the down all we want... you don't need but a tiny fraction of deviancy from norms ... to seriously cause a major ripple effect leading to dreaded consequence - pick adjectives...

This in terms of a National security ( Global too ) is a problem when fringe ideologies become righteously self-absolving and believing in their morality, because they've 'found one another' on the internet, and sociologically ... humans cannot avoid supremacy by numbers - we are a socially motivating species. 

'Hey, ur my kind of peep' - ... emboldened, we end up with throngs of fringe lunacy storming the Capital  ... and all they really have in common is hostile dysfunction needing a cause to be violent - nothing that would ever pass any kind of functionally sane litmus test. 

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2 hours ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

I mean ..people should just look at the bright side that vaccines are flying into peoples arms at rapid rates and this disaster is almost over . 

I was watching Bill Maher last Friday night ...  Paraphrasing one of his segment lead-ins ( because it is something that has bothered me for some time)  ...there seems to be this cultural lust for dystopian realization to become of reality  'Why is the press and everyone that reads the press and all of these different agencies, the whole world, ignoring all the optimistic data. Yet, we cannot expect mask wearing to go on for ever....' etc etc... He went on to site hard numbers proving that this is getting better faster than modeled ... ( enter reason here ) 

Nope...  death if you dare move.

I mean ...wtf is going on?   It's like we really are in a zombie apocalypse - as macabre zombies singularly driven to self-fulfilling prophecies of doom and gloom -

I opined just yesterday about the how much time along the last million years of human evolution was spent in masks, and how that so uniquely situates us to accept this will be this way for ever, willing, so long as the CNN's thinks they can make money off gaslighting idiots that can't stop thumb swiping their phones and clicking their PC mouses through those sites' labyrinth of "Doomscrolling"

Hint hint... I think that's part of what the problem is here - within seemingly "economic minutes" of this thing being declared a Pandemic late in 2019, this became Incorporated ..

Ever since, people that are capable of influencing the masses that are apparent of the ginormous economic machine, don't want their cash-cow going away. 

I mean it may not be that coherently quantifiable as a cause but something of prefer not to see the optimism is attempting to block seeing lights at the end of this tunnel. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I was watching Bill Maher last Friday night ...  Paraphrasing one of his segment lead-ins ( because it is something that has bothered me for some time)  ...there seems to be this cultural lust for dystopian realization to become of reality  'Why is the press and everyone that reads the press and all of these different agencies, the whole world, ignoring all the optimistic data. Yet, we cannot expect mask wearing to go on for ever....' etc etc... He went on to site hard numbers proving that this is getting better faster than modeled ... ( enter reason here ) 

Nope...  death if you dare move.

I mean ...wtf is going on?   It's like we really are in a zombie apocalypse - as macabre zombies singularly driven to self-fulfilling prophecies of doom and gloom -

I opined just yesterday about the how much time along the last million years of human evolution was spent in masks, and how that so uniquely situates us to accept this will be this way for ever, willing, so long as the CNN's thinks they can make money off gaslighting idiots that can't stop thumb swiping their phones and clicking their PC mouses through those sites' labyrinth of "Doomscrolling"

Hint hint... I think that's part of what the problem is here - within seemingly "economic minutes" of this thing being declared a Pandemic late in 2019, this became Incorporated ..

Ever since, people that are capable of influencing the masses that are apparent of the ginormous economic machine, don't want their cash-cow going away. 

I mean it may not be that coherently quantifiable as a cause but something of prefer not to see the optimism is attempting to block seeing lights at the end of this tunnel. 

 

There have been all sorts of businesses new and old that are making a killing off the pandemic and I'm sure would rather see things stay the way they are. The media continues to feed the fear, to the benefit of said companies.

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The conversation about information and things like Twitter reminds me of reading about the difference (in a medical context) between a specialist and a generalist.  The specialist knows more and more about less and less, finally knowing everything about nothing.   The generalist knows less and less about more and more, finally knowing nothing about everything.  The internet and social media are making mostly "generalists" of a lot of us - real knowledge about a few things and very superficial knowledge (and a nice anonymous forum) about many many things.

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5 hours ago, DotRat_Wx said:

Wow. A ton of ignorant takes in here. Really almost shocking for a board based in science. 250k or something dead in just our country. Talk about a warped mental state 

Plenty of countries with science-based and liberal governments in Europe with per capita death rates around the same as our own. Can you explain that one?

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1 hour ago, Lava Rock said:

There have been all sorts of businesses new and old that are making a killing off the pandemic and I'm sure would rather see things stay the way they are. The media continues to feed the fear, to the benefit of said companies.

4 trillion dollars made by a small number of billionaires in 2020. 3.9 trillion dollars in losses for Americans and small businesses. Just a coincidence, I’m sure. 

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1 hour ago, Bostonseminole said:

Hopefully I can get my shot by April, looking to take a trip out to Yellowstone with the kids in May, we want to be fully vaccinated before that.  Crazy to see that 2.5M+ have died in just over 12 months, imagine if we would have listen to the it's just the flu crowd,. 5M? 10M? 

Africa didn’t lock down and they have not had these wild exponential explosions in deaths. Can’t believe you are still spreading this fear-mongering crap. 

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