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Interior NW & NE Burbs 2021


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24 minutes ago, Juliancolton said:

It was my neighborhood's turn to get trashed yesterday. No power, cell signal, phone... trees and wires down all over. My place is fine except for all my corn getting blown down and squash leaves turning into Swiss cheese from penny-sized hail. My beloved tomatoes are no worse for wear, thank goodness

Ugh, all of that is such a pain in the ass

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11 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

.80” here today 

.75" in the Stratus

4 minutes ago, Juliancolton said:

Yessir. Gone are the days of gentle summer storms, someone always gets walloped these days. Hard to tell if the storms are getting more severe, or we're just getting worse at maintaining the infrastructure. 

I think its a combination of both.  It certainly seems like we get storms much more than in the past but I have no science to back that up.  As far as infrastructure IMO its not maintained as much as it used to be.  I was commenting recently at work how NYSDOT repainted the lines on Route 207 and in spots they literally painted dirt and grass as the shoulder has eroded away.  Its been that way for years now and does not get addressed.  A little simple PM when it first happened would help the road last longer but it seems like the approach is to wait until it gets so bad that they have to repave.  And even when they repave the best you get is a 'mill and fill' job, the roads never truly get fixed and rebuilt.  Oh and NYS 207 is an official NYS bike route...yet there is no shoulder between Goshen and Campbell Hall.  I'll likely bring it up with a meeting I have with NYSDOT again next week but to no avail.    

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3 hours ago, gravitylover said:

.4 it rained hard but not for very long. 

Every time it rains it brings the bugs. My garden was a mess this morning, filled with Japanese Beetles and slugs just munching away and shutting on and sliming everything. I literally drowned over 2 dozen beetles in a few minutes.

I had dozens of Japanese beetles drowned in my pool each day the last two days.  

Dodged the heavy thunderstorms yesterday and had 0.18 in the bucket for the day.

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Mesoscale Discussion 1180
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   1250 PM CDT Wed Jul 07 2021

   Areas affected...Northeast PA...southeast NY...southern
   VT...MA...CT...RI...northern NJ

   Concerning...Severe potential...Watch likely 

   Valid 071750Z - 071945Z

   Probability of Watch Issuance...80 percent

   SUMMARY...Thunderstorms will increase in coverage this afternoon and
   be capable of damaging downburst winds and isolated instances of
   large hail.  A Severe Thunderstorm Watch will be needed prior to
   1830z.

   DISCUSSION...Latest surface analysis showed a stationary front
   extending from near the MA/NH border west to near the eastern tip of
   Lake Erie.  Strong diabatic heating of a very moist (upper 60s-lower
   70s surface dew points) air mass continues south of the front,
   contributing to MLCAPE ranging from 1000-2000 J/kg.  The discussion
   area is on the southern periphery of stronger mid-level westerly
   flow, and this will contribute to effective shear values ranging
   from 25-35 kts.  Largely southwest/west flow in the low-mid levels
   will support multicells and clusters as the primary modes.  Steep
   low-level lapse rates and a very moist environment will support
   damaging downburst winds as the primary hazard, especially as storm
   coverage/clustering increases later this afternoon.  A few instances
   of large hail will be possible, especially with the strongest
   multicell updrafts.

   Convective trends are being monitored and a Severe Thunderstorm
   Watch is likely prior to 1830z.

   ..Bunting/Guyer.. 07/07/2021

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14 minutes ago, hudsonvalley21 said:
Mesoscale Discussion 1180
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   1250 PM CDT Wed Jul 07 2021

   Areas affected...Northeast PA...southeast NY...southern
   VT...MA...CT...RI...northern NJ

   Concerning...Severe potential...Watch likely 

   Valid 071750Z - 071945Z

   Probability of Watch Issuance...80 percent

   SUMMARY...Thunderstorms will increase in coverage this afternoon and
   be capable of damaging downburst winds and isolated instances of
   large hail.  A Severe Thunderstorm Watch will be needed prior to
   1830z.

   DISCUSSION...Latest surface analysis showed a stationary front
   extending from near the MA/NH border west to near the eastern tip of
   Lake Erie.  Strong diabatic heating of a very moist (upper 60s-lower
   70s surface dew points) air mass continues south of the front,
   contributing to MLCAPE ranging from 1000-2000 J/kg.  The discussion
   area is on the southern periphery of stronger mid-level westerly
   flow, and this will contribute to effective shear values ranging
   from 25-35 kts.  Largely southwest/west flow in the low-mid levels
   will support multicells and clusters as the primary modes.  Steep
   low-level lapse rates and a very moist environment will support
   damaging downburst winds as the primary hazard, especially as storm
   coverage/clustering increases later this afternoon.  A few instances
   of large hail will be possible, especially with the strongest
   multicell updrafts.

   Convective trends are being monitored and a Severe Thunderstorm
   Watch is likely prior to 1830z.

   ..Bunting/Guyer.. 07/07/2021

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Watch up now...yay....  Tornado Watch tomorrow?

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1 hour ago, IrishRob17 said:

Watch up now...yay....  Tornado Watch tomorrow?

Could be on the menu.

Day 2 Convective Outlook  
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   1242 PM CDT Wed Jul 07 2021

...Portions of the Northeast/southern New England...
   Scattered thunderstorm development is expected by Thursday afternoon
   in a weakly capped environment across eastern PA and NJ, and also
   potentially along a warm front into portions of southern New
   England. Modestly enhanced southwesterly midlevel flow may support
   some organized clusters capable of producing locally damaging wind.
   A supercell or two cannot be ruled out in the vicinity of the warm
   front, which would pose a threat of a tornado or two in addition the
   damaging wind potential.
 

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18 hours ago, hudsonvalley21 said:
Could be on the menu.

Day 2 Convective Outlook  
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   1242 PM CDT Wed Jul 07 2021

...Portions of the Northeast/southern New England...
   Scattered thunderstorm development is expected by Thursday afternoon
   in a weakly capped environment across eastern PA and NJ, and also
   potentially along a warm front into portions of southern New
   England. Modestly enhanced southwesterly midlevel flow may support
   some organized clusters capable of producing locally damaging wind.
   A supercell or two cannot be ruled out in the vicinity of the warm
   front, which would pose a threat of a tornado or two in addition the
   damaging wind potential.
 

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Update from this morning, looks like the showers now could limit severe later.
 
"...Northeast...
   Scattered thunderstorms are expected within the moist conveyor
   regime downstream of TC Elsa. Guidance indicates the potential for
   moderate buoyancy will generally remain confined from the
   Chesapeake/DE Bays towards the NYC tri-state area, where cloud
   breaks are noted within morning visible imagery. However, convective
   development is already underway from eastern PA to southeast NY and
   this appears ill-timed to strengthening tropospheric flow fields
   that should largely be delayed until late afternoon into this
   evening. This renders uncertainty over the spatial extent of any
   organized clusters to transient supercells. Thus, will defer to
   later outlooks for possible upgrade to cat 2/SLGT risk."
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24 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

@hudsonvalley21 Third day in a row for a Severe Thunderstorm Watch, do you recall that ever happening before around here?  Anyone?

Not that I can remember for the severe thunderstorm watch.   0.57 in the bucket today so far.

a section from today’s outlook from the SPC

Northeast States...
   Clusters of showers/thunderstorms are ongoing at midday across the
   region, particularly across far southeast New York into western New
   England. More considerable cloud cover is also generally prevalent
   across the region as compared to prior days. More appreciable
   destabilization will tend to remain confined to the Chesapeake/DE
   Bays towards the New York City tri-state area, where some cloud
   breaks are noted within morning visible satellite imagery. Although
   the degree of destabilization is a bit uncertain, isolated severe
   thunderstorms will be possible across the region with thunderstorm
   wind damage as the primary severe risk. Areas such as northeast
   PA/northern NJ into southern NY/NYC Metro and southern New England
   will continue to be reevaluated and monitored for a somewhat greater
   severe risk later today, which could include potential for some
   transient supercells

 

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We were in Carmel at the supermarket when the storm rolled in, it absolutely fkn POURED between there and home. Here at the homestead it looks like ~.2 to maybe .25 but 3 miles north it's 1.2 and 4 miles north it's 1.9! What a difference in a really short distance. Woof.

@Juliancolton that sux. Sorry dude. Want me to bring some cold beer tomorrow if things aren't too terrible for traveling?

 

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3 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

Damn, 2.28” for the month here 

That total is going to be low by maybe .50 as I figured out the tipper was blocked by bird poop most likely. I think I got the clog out now but will need to look more closely.  The Stratus will need to fill in the details tomorrow when I check it. 

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5 hours ago, gravitylover said:

We were in Carmel at the supermarket when the storm rolled in, it absolutely fkn POURED between there and home. Here at the homestead it looks like ~.2 to maybe .25 but 3 miles north it's 1.2 and 4 miles north it's 1.9! What a difference in a really short distance. Woof.

@Juliancolton that sux. Sorry dude. Want me to bring some cold beer tomorrow if things aren't too terrible for traveling?

It's all good, out of my control so I try not to spend too much energy fretting about it. I'll let ya buy me a beer at the long overdue NW burbs gtg. :)

Definitely some tight gradients with this week's precip. The same areas seem to be favored day after day 

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