binbisso Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 What a bomb on the euro day9. With the block being advertised on the models we are now going to see some wild Solutions in the next week and Beyond Edit. Not really a bomb but a nice Miller B redeveloper south of Long Island Fun Times ahead 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Storm after storm popping up on the models with the block. All we need is some cold air Fun times possibly ahead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, snowman19 said: How exactly will it definitely improve the PAC? And how does it not matter at all if all the cold ends up on the other side of the pole? West based NAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, binbisso said: With the current setup In the Atlantic with the negative Nao and AO you do not want cold Arctic air as that would only suppress system. + 5 in Canada and plus two here in mid-January through mid-February would work just fine as the block would cause systems to go underneath us and it will be plenty cold enough to snow. I know you know this as you are a knowledgeable poster but you're warm bias interferes with rational judgment and your predictions end up wrong. Good post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 not animated but pretty nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin0529 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 All these storms and a crappy airmass. When we get the cold the storms will disappear. That's what we do in these parts. We need a good area wide crushing from coast to interior. It's been a couple years now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, Franklin0529 said: All these storms and a crappy airmass. When we get the cold the storms will disappear. That's what we do in these parts. We need a good area wide crushing from coast to interior. It's been a couple years now We just had that last week. When Central Park has 10 inches, the Catskills have 2 feet, and Binghamton needs a yard stick, that is as good as a region-wide crushing gets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, jfklganyc said: We just had that last week. When Central Park has 10 inches, the Catskills have 2 feet, and Binghamton needs a yard stick, that is as good as a region-wide crushing gets. No no. It only counts if everyone from NC to ME gets 3 feet! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin0529 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 How 14 minutes ago, jfklganyc said: We just had that last week. When Central Park has 10 inches, the Catskills have 2 feet, and Binghamton needs a yard stick, that is as good as a region-wide crushing gets. How much did the coast get?? 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Franklin0529 said: How How much did the coast get?? 0 I got 8 inches Central Park got 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Wow the Euro and EPS has a storm train with a huge block . The epo also gets better on the eps. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Franklin0529 said: How How much did the coast get?? 0 JFK got what 8 inches? To me you can’t say the coast got zero. As for upcoming storms, things have to line up perfect to manufacture cold air. A general 5 degrees AN going forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Grann Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, jfklganyc said: We just had that last week. When Central Park has 10 inches, the Catskills have 2 feet, and Binghamton needs a yard stick, that is as good as a region-wide crushing gets. He obviously didn't live through the 70s and 80s when this was normal storm wise here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, snowman19 said: How exactly will it definitely improve the PAC? And how does it not matter at all if all the cold ends up on the other side of the pole? Speaking of the PAC, I'm starting to see improvements in the long range. It's likely lights out for people south of i84 until mid-month though. Late Jan and early Feb could be fun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 End of the eps seems pretty phenomenal. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, bluewave said: That’s getting really close to the NYC 12”snowstorm composite of 14 events since 1979. Sure looks like its shaping up to be a very interesting 2nd half of winter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob brooklyn Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, MJO812 said: I got 8 inches Central Park got 10 8 incher bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, jfklganyc said: We just had that last week. When Central Park has 10 inches, the Catskills have 2 feet, and Binghamton needs a yard stick, that is as good as a region-wide crushing gets. I think he means something like Jan 1996 or Feb 2003 or Feb 1983 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, bluewave said: That’s getting really close to the NYC 12”+ snowstorm composite of 14 events since 1979. and thats the classic solution during the time period we've been outlining....the potential is there, it remsins to be seen if it is realized. all of those were amazing, but there is a wide spectrum within that envelop.....addressing the ones that weren't perfect for us......2/79 was actually a little too suppressed, we got close to a foot of snow here but the historic amounts were just south of us, 2/94 was a dumping of snow followed by a changeover to rain, still double digit snowfall here (sort of similar to the December event)....2/06 had a narrow band of heavy snow concentrated near the city, with lesser amounts outside of that death band, every other storm in that list was historic for a large part of the area though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, bluewave said: That’s getting really close to the NYC 12”+ snowstorm composite of 14 events since 1979. Chris can you post the full list- some of those got cut off, I counted only 11 on the dates I could see. This list also includes the two big ones in 1978! So it's 16 and not 14? PS also something a bit extra if you can find the info on this.....can you post a list of all the storms that've dropped 20" or more at one of the NYC official stations (NYC/EWR/JFK/LGA) and also dropped 20" or more at either ABE or MPO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Jeff Grann said: He obviously didn't live through the 70s and 80s when this was normal storm wise here actually two of the very best occurred in the 70s and 80s.....Feb 1978 and Feb 1983. I recently found out that my second home in the Poconos got 30" in Feb 1978 and also over 2 feet in Feb 1983, that's pretty amazing considering that my first home on Long Island also got over 2 feet from the same storms! There's a select list of only a few storms that have dropped two feet plus in both locations; Jan 1996, Feb 2003 and Jan 2016 are also on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Chris can you post the full list- some of those got cut off, I counted only 11 on the dates I could see. This list also includes the two big ones in 1978! So it's 16 and not 14? PS also something a bit extra if you can find the info on this.....can you post a list of all the storms that've dropped 20" or more at one of the NYC official stations (NYC/EWR/JFK/LGA) and also dropped 20" or more at either ABE or MPO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Rjay said: Speaking of the PAC, I'm starting to see improvements in the long range. It's likely lights out for people south of i84 until mid-month though. Late Jan and early Feb could be fun. Well hopefully it doesn't all go to sh*t as we approach mid Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Find a BN day in this mess (which could have been salvaged from last January)and win a KEWPIE DOLL (with fully visible [but not functional---so don't get excited}sexual organs. Well at least we are getting rid of the 50's. The High+Low can't exceed 66, which eliminates all but 3 days, right off the bat. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, CIK62 said: Find a BN day in this mess (which could have been salvaged from last January)and win a KEWPIE DOLL (with fully visible [but not functional---so don't get excited}sexual organs. Well at least we are getting rid of the 50's. The High+Low can't exceed 66, which eliminates all but 3 days, right off the bat. Who cares? The operational GFS beyond 5 days is as useless as t!ts on a bull. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Grann Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, LibertyBell said: actually two of the very best occurred in the 70s and 80s.....Feb 1978 and Feb 1983. I recently found out that my second home in the Poconos got 30" in Feb 1978 and also over 2 feet in Feb 1983, that's pretty amazing considering that my first home on Long Island also got over 2 feet from the same storms! There's a select list of only a few storms that have dropped two feet plus in both locations; Jan 1996, Feb 2003 and Jan 2016 are also on that list. Yes but there were many skunk years also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 If anyone wants to learn a thing or two about SSWEs then check out this video. It's very long but Ventrice makes it easy to understand. A poster from another forum put me on to this. Shout-out to Bird. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Jeff Grann said: Yes but there were many skunk years also too many lol and all of them between 4th grade and high school graduation for me (and also my first couple of years of college). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishcast_hater Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Rain 37 degrees in Dutchess County. What a waste. Long range on my weather app is 40’s every day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Have noted a few posts noting the blocky and possibly more favorable pattern the 8th-15th. No topic yet. Kind of want to clear the table of 1/1 and 1/3-4. I do see the potential... definitely would like a freshening of a colder boundary layer. If we can't deliver something decent in this pattern the next several weeks... At least there are some marginal wintry threats. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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