495weatherguy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: No cold air, suppression, meh, looks like January is about done... 2 down, 1 more to go till Meteorological winter is done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, 495weatherguy said: 2 down, 1 more to go till Meteorological winter is done! apparently you don't know when Meteorological Winter Ends............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, 495weatherguy said: 2 down, 1 more to go till Meteorological winter is done! I'll take one more decent storm and be happy. I think the idea of a longer lasting big pattern is on life support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, NEG NAO said: apparently you don't know when Meteorological Winter Ends............ he's right, if Jan is done snowwise, there's one more month of met winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: No cold air, suppression, meh, looks like January is about done... Until a couple runs of the models bring hope back............--you are basing that declaration on model runs past 5 days which practically everyone is critical of around here ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Only the 4th time that NYC didn’t drop below 20° by mid-January. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Min Temperature Oct 1 to Jan 15 Missing Count 1 2013-01-15 22 0 2 2021-01-15 20 1 - 2002-01-15 20 0 - 1932-01-15 20 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: No cold air, suppression, meh, looks like January is about done... We will have cold enough air the second half of the month but I'm not sure about any precip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, bluewave said: Only the 4th time that NYC didn’t drop below 20° by mid-January. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Min Temperature Oct 1 to Jan 15 Missing Count 1 2013-01-15 22 0 2 2021-01-15 20 1 - 2002-01-15 20 0 - 1932-01-15 20 0 1932 had only 5.3 inches snow for the season - 2002 had even less then that BUT 2013 had 12.2 in Feb and 7.3 snow in March at NYC - so far 10.5 in 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 34 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: Until a couple runs of the models bring hope back............--you are basing that declaration on model runs past 5 days which practically everyone is critical of around here ............. Yes but he meant met winter (December, January, February). March 1st is the beginning of meteorological spring. I'm hoping we get something going soon, my two year old keeps begging for snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 46 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: No cold air, suppression, meh, looks like January is about done... No cold air ? What 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 33 minutes ago, HeadInTheClouds said: We will have cold enough air the second half of the month but I'm not sure about any precip. Cold air is coming next week with the developing negative epo. The problem is suppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: Yes but he meant met winter (December, January, February). March 1st is the beginning of meteorological spring. I'm hoping we get something going soon, my two year old keeps begging for snow! We have seen snow until April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 56 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: he's right, if Jan is done snowwise, there's one more month of met winter. no kidding - the way he worded made it sound like he was saying FEBRUARY would not have any snow........and March and April don't matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, bluewave said: But the lack of any measurable snowfall in NYC during the first half of January is unusual following a 10”+ December since 2000. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Month of Dec Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Total Snowfall Jan 1-15 1 2010 20.1 10.8 2 2003 19.8 6.2 3 2000 13.4 1.8 4 2009 12.4 0.8 5 2002 11.0 1.6 6 2020 10.5 T unusual yes BUT IMO we still don't know how much snowfall we will have the rest of the season - impossible to predict - also check out what happened in 1933-34 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, bluewave said: The only certainty is that we will need some help from the Pacific to reach normal to above normal snowfall. That will be the wild card going forward. I am hoping that we can see some improvements in that department. Also remember 2009-2010 ? That's easy to check out what the mood was around here in January which only had a couple inches after a 12.4 inch December and then February turned out to be historic with 36.9 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 @crossbowftw3 looking good for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, sferic said: @crossbowftw3 looking good for us define "US" please 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossbowftw3 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, sferic said: @crossbowftw3 looking good for us Elevations still best, I can’t count on more than a few inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
495weatherguy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, NEG NAO said: apparently you don't know when Meteorological Winter Ends............ Do you? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
495weatherguy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 56 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: no kidding - the way he worded made it sound like he was saying FEBRUARY would not have any snow........and March and April don't matter I’m sorry you inferred that from a simple true statement. That’s on you, not on my statement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, bluewave said: But the lack of any measurable snowfall in NYC during the first half of January is unusual following a 10”+ December since 2000. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Month of Dec Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Total Snowfall Jan 1-15 1 2010 20.1 10.8 2 2003 19.8 6.2 3 2000 13.4 1.8 4 2009 12.4 0.8 5 2002 11.0 1.6 6 2020 10.5 T Winter 1912-13 saw just 0.3" snow following 11.4" in December (December 24, 1912). 0.1" fell during January 1-15. That's the benchmark winter for least snowfall following a December that saw 10" or more snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Brian5671 said: he's right, if Jan is done snowwise, there's one more month of met winter. But we do have April lol. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Still gross with dense fog. Thankfully it's 33° so the ice melted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Clipper pattern on the GFS next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, gravitylover said: Still gross with dense fog. Thankfully it's 33° so the ice melted 38 here and cloudy-it's got that damp feel where you know it's rain coming and not frozen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 There is too much cold air next week for any storm to amplify. Too much blocking sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
495weatherguy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Dan76 said: But we do have April lol. Cannot discount March either. We could have a rough March 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Winter 1912-13 saw just 0.3" snow following 11.4" in December (December 24, 1912). 0.1" fell during January 1-15. That's the benchmark winter for least snowfall following a December that saw 10" or more snow. I guess it goes with the big snowfall swings that have become common in recent times. It’s been a rollercoaster ride between record highs and lows. The North America snow extent anomalies since October followed this pattern. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 TPV shreds and squashes every storm on the 12z runs. We are left with a cold and dry pattern with snow showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin0529 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, MJO812 said: TPV shreds and squashes every storm on the 12z runs. We are left with a cold and dry pattern with snow showers. Dont worry it's only January 15th lol. The pattern is still 10 days away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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