weathafella Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 58 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Wow the west will be a winter wonderland with the roaring jet Many of those locations are at elevations not possible in the east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Cmc now shows this for the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 hours ago, weathafella said: Many of those locations are at elevations not possible in the east. Elevation is how its done though out west......access to truly arctic air masses isn't a thing until at least the rockies? Forget about it in the Sierra........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaStorm05 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 hours ago, ice1972 said: Elevation is how its done though out west......access to truly arctic air masses isn't a thing until at least the rockies? Forget about it in the Sierra........ Oh yeah Sierra.... Tahoe might get 100-300 inches of snow a year but there are plenty of plain white T days in January. It’s a very warm mountain range. Its preferable to the Rockies to me as the Rockies are drier and too cold. but because of their southerly latitude in context of pacific weather, Sierra does have some consistency problems that the cascades do not:...... Drought! And lower elevation snows seem to be subject to some decadal oscillations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Shades closed first two weeks at least. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Shades closed first two weeks at least. Yeah looks that way on GEFS and GEPS (don't have EPS). Obviously out in fantasy land so may never verify but this is an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Great news going forward, keeping the optimism! After January 20th it is late-winter and the sun angle really takes over, so let's hope for a repeat of last year and slide right into Spring snow-free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Shades closed first two weeks at least. Wow. That’s a helluva statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Jan 4th is a player, shades open 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Shades closed first two weeks at least. As things stand right now that appears to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Jan 4th is a player, shades open Shades half open, these shades are going to break going "open and close" ! Why do I have the feeling this is going to be nickle and dime stuff all winter...........If this crystal ball said 2015 that would be great! For now we wait.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 56 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Shades closed first two weeks at least. You are so negative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Jan 4th is a player, shades open Hmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 So confused my shades are now tangled. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: Shades closed first two weeks at least. Uh ? Continue to watch Jan 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Uh ? Continue to watch Jan 3-4 I mean the overall look. Just real shitty. If the 4th works out consider it luck. Pattern is rather ugly. Maybe we find a weenie in the haystack. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I mean the overall look. Just real shitty. If the 4th works out consider it luck. Pattern is rather ugly. Maybe we find a weenie in the haystack. We need the NYE low to shred out for the 4th to work. If the low is strong , you can kiss the 4th storm goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, MJO812 said: We need the NYE low to shred out for the 4th to work. If the low is strong , you can kiss the 4th storm goodbye. Even your Para lost the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Even your Para lost the 4th. It still shows it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I mean the overall look. Just real shitty. If the 4th works out consider it luck. Pattern is rather ugly. Maybe we find a weenie in the haystack. It better be a very big one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, MJO812 said: It still shows it The overall look is trash. How quickly the DT classic pattern vanished...as quick as the pope at an orgy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: The overall look is trash. How quickly the DT classic pattern vanished...as quick as the pope at an orgy. I also noticed he stopped posting lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 If someone looks at this , they would say wow , the pattern looks great. The AO is in a freefall , NAO is also dropping and PNA is stable. The problem is the epo which is really screwing us over . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: The overall look is trash. How quickly the DT classic pattern vanished...as quick as the pope at an orgy. WOOF! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, MJO812 said: If someone looks at this , they would say wow , the pattern looks great. The AO is in a freefall , NAO is also dropping and PNA is stable. The problem is the epo which is really screwing us over . Stop looking at those damned charts and see the pattern. EPO sucks but the NAO is a fraud -NAO. It’s not a west-based Davis Strait or even Hudson Bay block. It’s eastern Greenland to Iceland ridging with a vortex over Baffin Island...in scientific technical lingo, that’s called a dogshit negative NAO. They can be ok when the PAC is mediocre but not when it is hostile. Previously, model guidance showed a true Davis Strait block which was going to offset the shitty PAC. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Maybe our hope lies and the lack of stability in the guidance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Stop looking at those damned charts and see the pattern. EPO sucks but the NAO is a fraud -NAO. It’s not a west-based Davis Strait or even Hudson Bay block. It’s eastern Greenland to Iceland ridging with a vortex over Baffin Island...in scientific technical lingo, that’s called a dogshit negative NAO. They can be ok when the PAC is mediocre but not when it is hostile. Previously, model guidance showed a true Davis Strait block which was going to offset the shitty PAC. Your first sentence, we tried to tell him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: The overall look is trash. How quickly the DT classic pattern vanished...as quick as the pope at an orgy. Retrograding block with resulting EPO PNA bumps mid month. Patience grasshoppers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Stop looking at those damned charts and see the pattern. EPO sucks but the NAO is a fraud -NAO. It’s not a west-based Davis Strait or even Hudson Bay block. It’s eastern Greenland to Iceland ridging with a vortex over Baffin Island...in scientific technical lingo, that’s called a dogshit negative NAO. They can be ok when the PAC is mediocre but not when it is hostile. Previously, model guidance showed a true Davis Strait block which was going to offset the shitty PAC. Literally turning into a great pattern for those who wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Literally turning into a great pattern for those who wait Assuming GEFS is correct. EPS not as enthused though they still do improve somewhat toward the end of the run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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