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5 hours ago, ice1972 said:

Elevation is how its done though out west......access to truly arctic air masses isn't a thing until at least the rockies?  Forget about it in the Sierra........

Oh yeah Sierra.... Tahoe might get 100-300 inches of snow a year but there are plenty of plain white T days in January. It’s a very warm mountain range.

Its preferable to the Rockies to me as the Rockies are drier and too cold. 
 

but because of their southerly latitude in context of pacific weather, Sierra does have some consistency problems that the cascades do not:...... Drought! And lower elevation snows seem to be subject to some decadal oscillations 

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4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I mean the overall look. Just real shitty. If the 4th works out consider it luck. Pattern is rather ugly. Maybe we find a weenie in the haystack. 

We need the NYE low to shred out for the 4th to work.  If the low is strong , you can kiss the 4th storm goodbye.

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9 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

If someone looks at this , they would say wow , the pattern looks great.

The AO is in a freefall , NAO is also dropping and PNA is stable.

The problem is the epo which is really screwing us over .

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Stop looking at those damned charts and see the pattern. EPO sucks but the NAO is a fraud -NAO. It’s not a west-based Davis Strait or even Hudson Bay block. It’s eastern Greenland to Iceland ridging with a  vortex over Baffin Island...in scientific technical lingo, that’s called a dogshit negative NAO.

They can be ok when the PAC is mediocre but not when it is hostile. Previously, model guidance showed a true Davis Strait block which was going to offset the shitty PAC. 

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13 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Stop looking at those damned charts and see the pattern. EPO sucks but the NAO is a fraud -NAO. It’s not a west-based Davis Strait or even Hudson Bay block. It’s eastern Greenland to Iceland ridging with a  vortex over Baffin Island...in scientific technical lingo, that’s called a dogshit negative NAO.

They can be ok when the PAC is mediocre but not when it is hostile. Previously, model guidance showed a true Davis Strait block which was going to offset the shitty PAC. 

Your first sentence, we tried to tell him.

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20 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Stop looking at those damned charts and see the pattern. EPO sucks but the NAO is a fraud -NAO. It’s not a west-based Davis Strait or even Hudson Bay block. It’s eastern Greenland to Iceland ridging with a  vortex over Baffin Island...in scientific technical lingo, that’s called a dogshit negative NAO.

They can be ok when the PAC is mediocre but not when it is hostile. Previously, model guidance showed a true Davis Strait block which was going to offset the shitty PAC. 

Literally turning into a great pattern for those who wait

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