osfan24 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, IronTy said: I gotta give it to this forum, there are a lot of polyannas prognosticating this way or that...if, X winds up here and Y does this and it's a Thursday and we close one eye then a HECS can happen. Sorry, it ain't happening. Face it we aren't getting any major snow this year. In fact, the sun is out full force today and I can already tell its angle is increasing. Countdown til spring has commenced.... Ha, it's a little early for that. I think there is a middle ground between those saying winter is over in late December and those with false hope of something happening in the next 2-3 weeks when it appears the cold air is MIA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 30 minutes ago, nj2va said: Pivotal has it. I'm glad it has alot of support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, IronTy said: I gotta give it to this forum, there are a lot of polyannas prognosticating this way or that...if, X winds up here and Y does this and it's a Thursday and we close one eye then a HECS can happen. Sorry, it ain't happening. Face it we aren't getting any major snow this year. In fact, the sun is out full force today and I can already tell its angle is increasing. Countdown til spring has commenced.... You were already reaped....the first in fact. Stay in your place of rest ... in peace...and silence 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, IronTy said: I gotta give it to this forum, there are a lot of polyannas prognosticating this way or that...if, X winds up here and Y does this and it's a Thursday and we close one eye then a HECS can happen. Sorry, it ain't happening. Face it we aren't getting any major snow this year. In fact, the sun is out full force today and I can already tell its angle is increasing. Countdown til spring has commenced.... I believe you are looking for the Mid-Atlantic Panic Room™️ 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, psuhoffman said: From there is we can get the western trough to split and the vortex to pull back allowing that energy out west to slide under the block that can go somewhere good. If the whole trough keeps digging west....ehh The GFS does do that later in the run. Pushes a nice ridge to the west coast. We can live with this: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 When was the last time we had a clipper pattern? I mean legit winter where we had a couple of clippers. I feel like years ago we used to get on avg 2 or 3 per year. They were 1-3"/2-4" events but they seemed so commonplace. I dont even remember when we had a single Alberta clipper tbh. 2013? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 We need a Jan 2011 bowling ball to brighten the mood in here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said: When was the last time we had a clipper pattern? I mean legit winter where we had a couple of clippers. I feel like years ago we used to get on avg 2 or 3 per year. They were 1-3"/2-4" events but they seemed so commonplace. I dont even remember when we had a single Alberta clipper tbh. 2013? RIP clippers, we followed you for days and days then you hit the mountains and all dried and desiccated yourselves into oblivion and gave us clouds and flurries. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 icon has it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, Ji said: icon has it too So you're telling me there's a chance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said: So you're telling me there's a chance? We need something. Cohen says warm east for 2 weeks+ once the SSWE gets underway in a few days. Then depending on exactly how that shakes out, we might get colder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 GEPS was never really on board with the great look in late Dec early Jan but now... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: GEPS was never really on board with the great look in late Dec early Jan but now... Just have to see now if it keeps getting kicked. The last 24-36 hours all 3 ensembles more or less show 1/8-1/12 the transition to the -EPO or +PNA look. I think I want to see that come inside 240 before I believe it. No idea either how the SSW which does look legit at this time impacts this. Obviously the major results won't transpire til mid or late Jan but we saw 2 winters ago how the warming process basically effed over what was going to be a good pattern shift for the East. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: GEPS was never really on board with the great look in late Dec early Jan but now... That is pretty nice look right there. All models have the great looking block, but not as favorable out west by day 15. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Canadian ensemble looks very similar to the EPS (EPS a little less pronounced of the PNA ridge). That’s an impressive west -NAO. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Also EPS has a signal at that timeframe for a low in the east at the end of its run based on the MSLP anomaly maps - haven’t looked into the individual plots but seems like a decent signal just based on this map. Perhaps we can get the PNA to flex at the right time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, nj2va said: Canadian ensemble looks very similar to the EPS (EPS a little less pronounced of the PNA ridge). That’s an impressive west -NAO. Just a general question. Why arent the height lines in the AO region more curved like they are in the alaska trough. I know means are smoothed out I’m just worried we’d see more of the same current pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsch22 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Good observation. I was wondering the same exact thing re: the height lines? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Ugly wave 1 in the wrong hemisphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 So you're telling me there's a chance? Absolutely not 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, Ji said: 56 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said: So you're telling me there's a chance? Absolutely not You don’t seem enthused about the upcoming pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 You don’t seem enthused about the upcoming pattern. Its actually worse than last year because we have the high latitude blocking and we still not tracking anything of significance but its worse for me because on paper we should be killing it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Ji said: 21 minutes ago, BristowWx said: You don’t seem enthused about the upcoming pattern. Its actually worse than last year because we have the high latitude blocking and we still not tracking anything of significance but its worse for me because on paper we should be killing it Not sure about worse. You already had a warning level event...last winter was epic shit pile with corn...it’s still better...your expectations were too high with the blocking...we were all too excited about it...so.lower the expectation or you’ll just be miserable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ji said: 32 minutes ago, BristowWx said: You don’t seem enthused about the upcoming pattern. Its actually worse than last year because we have the high latitude blocking and we still not tracking anything of significance but its worse for me because on paper we should be killing it Yo how can you possibly say that? We have a vulnerable polar vortex this year...that ALONE is better than last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, BristowWx said: Not sure about worse. You already had a warning level event...last winter was epic shit pile with corn...it’s still better...your expectations were too high with the blocking...we were all too excited about it...so.lower the expectation or you’ll just be miserable. Ji literally said 2009-2010 was a disappointment because it didn’t snow any more after the 3rd HECS. His expectations are far, far beyond the point they can be put in check. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 46 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: 3..2..1.."probably not something looks slightly too far west in that ugly Pacific...meh" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 52 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: Where do I sign? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjammin Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Flips phone around to see North America...Sent from my motorola edge plus using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, BristowWx said: You don’t seem enthused about the upcoming pattern. Which pattern? The best looking pattern in 24 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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