Syrmax Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 No snow cover here to speak of so we went snow shoeing this a.m. where there was snow, at Winona State Park on the Oswego/Jeff county border. I'd say about 12" of new snow. Definately slower going breaking new ground, and a better workout... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I keep reading about how 'thank goodness this isn't the same as last year" as though it's a good thing. Last year, I had waaaay more snow and days with snowcover than this year. Yes, Christmas through January last year generally stunk...and they don't look much better this year....but so far, last year at least looked like winter much more than this one. Waiting a couple more weeks around here for good snowfall puts this winter as worse in the Central NY region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Who would of thought lol Updated totals.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Seems like models are trying to show something for the end of the week/weekend other than rain. If we can get the Atlantic ridge to back off a bit and cold air to press in from the north, we could be looking at an overrunning type of situation. These overrunning patterns can pop up with little modeling showing them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Seems like models are trying to show something for the end of the week/weekend other than rain. If we can get the Atlantic ridge to back off a bit and cold air to press in from the north, we could be looking at an overrunning type of situation. These overrunning patterns can pop up with little modeling showing them. Hour 114 euro has a 1031 high over the dacks. Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Ericjcrash said: Hour 114 euro has a 1031 high over the dacks. Interesting Yeah, the models are trying to show cold air holding in east of the Finger Lakes. Western NY warms into the 40s, but CNY has the possibility of staying in the 30s, especially if an East wind funnels cold air in. This is all speculation, of course...but I could see the NE literally just squeezing in some wintry weather between the Atlantic ridge and the moderate cold trying to sink in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I know winter is only a quarter of a way thru but March to me isn't a real "winter" month. Its similar to November in the sense that sunny and 60s in march happens regularly enough that its baked into our minds that March is pretty much a spring month. January and February are winter months but by late February there's no denying sun angle and the first warmth you start to feel in the car with just the sun out. Thats also completely up to what you consider winter. Some of the upper midwest and prairie provinces biggest snowstorms/blizzards are in April and October which to me is a waste because even that far north its quickly back into the 50s-60s with sun almost right after the snow ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Good depiction of why the last one cut. Look at the heights of the NE coast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerintonMan Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 hours ago, wolfie09 said: Who would of thought lol Updated totals.. Sounds about right. ROC nickle and diming to 11 inches over 6 weeks, a dusting to an inch every couple of days. Feel like it shouldn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 5 hours ago, CNY_WX said: I just ran a snowfall summary from my CoCoRaHS records I’ve managed to nickel and dime my way to 12.4 inches since 11/1, the same amount you Buffalo guys received in 4-5 hours yesterday. My single greatest daily accumulation was 3.4 inches. I know we’re only about a quarter of the way through winter but this is frustrating, especially when you look at models hoping to see a sign of hope and see nothing but cutters followed by lake effect that will probably miss my area. I guess we can always hope for a SSW event to shake things up but I won’t believe it until I see it. I’ve had over 6 inches of liquid precipitation which should have translated into 50-60 inches of snow to this point but on 12/27 I look out the window and see green grass. Thanks for letting me rant. * indicates Multi-Day Accumulation Report Station NY-OG-28 Date Precip in. Snowfall in. Snowfall SWE in. Total Snow Depth in. Total SWE in. 11/01/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/02/2020 0.33 0.3 NA NA NA 11/03/2020 0.20 1.0 NA NA NA 11/04/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/05/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/06/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/07/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/08/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/09/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/10/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/11/2020 0.24 0.0 NA NA NA 11/12/2020 0.29 0.0 NA NA NA 11/13/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/14/2020 0.03 0.0 NA NA NA 11/15/2020 0.01 0.0 NA NA NA 11/16/2020 0.23 0.0 NA NA NA 11/17/2020 0.01 T NA NA NA 11/18/2020 0.19 2.4 NA NA NA 11/19/2020 T T NA NA NA 11/20/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/21/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/22/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 11/23/2020 0.33 T NA NA NA 11/24/2020 0.75 0.4 NA NA NA 11/25/2020 0.01 T NA NA NA 11/26/2020 0.53 0.0 NA NA NA 11/27/2020 0.03 0.0 NA NA NA 11/28/2020 0.08 0.0 NA NA NA 11/29/2020 0.01 0.0 NA NA NA 11/30/2020 0.01 0.0 NA NA NA 12/01/2020 0.38 0.0 NA NA NA 12/02/2020 0.11 0.7 NA NA NA 12/03/2020 0.08 1.4 NA NA NA 12/04/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 12/05/2020 0.12 0.0 NA NA NA 12/06/2020 0.02 0.1 NA NA NA 12/07/2020 -- -- -- -- -- 12/08/2020 T T NA NA NA 12/09/2020 0.08 0.8 NA NA NA 12/10/2020 0.20 0.7 NA NA NA 12/11/2020 0.02 0.0 NA NA NA 12/12/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 12/13/2020 T 0.0 NA NA NA 12/14/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 12/15/2020 0.03 0.3 NA NA NA 12/16/2020 -- -- -- -- -- 12/17/2020 0.36 3.4 NA NA NA 12/18/2020 0.01 0.1 NA NA NA 12/19/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 12/20/2020 0.02 0.3 NA NA NA 12/21/2020 0.10 0.2 NA NA NA 12/22/2020 0.04 0.0 NA NA NA 12/23/2020 T T NA NA NA 12/24/2020 0.00 0.0 NA NA NA 12/25/2020 1.17 0.0 NA NA NA 12/26/2020 0.10 0.3 NA NA NA 12/27/2020 T T NA NA NA Totals : 6.12 in. 12.4 in. 0.00 in. -- -- For questions or comments concerning this web page please contact [email protected]. Unless otherwise noted, all content on the CoCoRaHS website is released under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License. Privacy Policy Data Usage Policy Copyright © 1998-2020, Colorado Climate Center, All rights reserved. I'm dead serious when I say we should go for the all time least snowiest season on record here in Syracuse because, from the looks of most guidance we may get to mid-January with not much accumulation so Ima start rooting for it, why not, since it doesn't want to snow anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 6 hours ago, wolfie09 said: Rgem keeps the bulk of the next LES event just to my south as winds are more "west" then "north".. Obviously I'll be keeping an eye on it lol This WILL NOT HAPPEN, cause its over my head, so its more likely that Parish, Central Square and Mexico will get the brunt of the showers, mark those words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 5 hours ago, TugHillMatt said: Some recent runs seem to be showing the LES setting up farther north and missing me again. I am trying sooooo hard not to whine this morning. Disheartened Bro, Not for nothing, but thats all you do, lol. You even did it when u lived on the TUG, lol! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 We cant even get tomorrows clipper to pass overhead as even that system is progged to move over So. Ontario, RLMAO, what an absolute joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Hmmm...18Z GFS is trying to do what I was talking about earlier. Flatter look. We won't get any whopping amounts of snow, but we could end up getting 1 to 3 inch snow events with ice and rain mixed back and forth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Expected snowfall Hi end.. Once again a bigger spread for pulask areai then surrounding areas.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: Expected snowfall I am extremely skeptical of getting 4 to 5 inches of snow around here...I would love to get it, especially if the warm air for the second half of the week continues getting pushed down. It would be nice to have a snowpack. It seems there are some positive factors tomorrow night and Tuesday AM for lake effect around here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 Went to Knox farms today and got to enjoy the new snowfall through the trails there. Long range not looking good 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Looks snowy in Green Bay for football game tonight if anyone needs a virtual snow fix. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Buffalo Bumble said: Looks snowy in Green Bay for football game tonight if anyone needs a virtual snow fix. Rodgers about to win me $850 in fantasy winnings. Hes the best QB in the league in the snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: Went to Knox farms today and got to enjoy the new snowfall through the trails there. Long range not looking good I honestly don’t know why anyone pays any heed to these in the last two years. They’ve been utterly useless. Wasn’t just a week ago everyone was getting excited for January? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, rochesterdave said: I honestly don’t know why anyone pays any heed to these in the last two years. They’ve been utterly useless. Wasn’t just a week ago everyone was getting excited for January? Yup and if that SSW takes place, a piece of the PV could pay us a visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Wow the west will be a winter wonderland with the roaring jet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, rochesterdave said: I honestly don’t know why anyone pays any heed to these in the last two years. They’ve been utterly useless. Wasn’t just a week ago everyone was getting excited for January? Who was getting excited about January? SSW are completely random in effecting us over here. Even with them you need a delivering mechanism, all the cold air is on the other side of the globe....again. The Pacific has been terrible for 2 years straight. We are entering top climo as January is our coldest month so we can still average above normal and get some surprise events up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Who was getting excited about January? SSW are completely random in effecting us over here. Even with them you need a delivering mechanism, all the cold air is on the other side of the globe....again. The Pacific has been terrible for 2 years straight. We are entering top climo as January is our coldest month so we can still average above normal and get some surprise events up here. You know me. I'm excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Syrmax said: You know me. I'm excited. February is going to be rockin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 The best month is always one after the current month. In equation form: current month+1 month =best month worst month is easier: current month/1= worst month 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 00Z NAM showing what I was talking about this afternoon...Thursday is looking very different now with possible overrunning of a mix changing to light snow as the cold air presses in. You can see the Atlantic Ridge scooting right off to the east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, rochesterdave said: The best month is always one after the current month. In equation form: current month+1 month =best month worst month is easier: current month/1= worst month Nah... Best month = 10 days away (infinity + beyond) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: February is going to be rockin. I'm waiting for June and July to be Margarita rockin in the pool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Some of the 00Z runs are showing possibly 6 to 9 inches of LES across Onondaga county. I wouldn't be surprised to wake up to a Lake Effect Snow Advisory (Do those still exist?) or WWA for 3 to 6 inches with "possibly more in heavier bands" for the county. Still hesitant, as it's so easy to be burned by these events...but looks like one of our best shots so far this year for this localized region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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