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3 minutes ago, wx2fish said:

Brutal pack up in Pittsburg. Trails won't be opening anytime soon. Snowmobile club posted like 6-8" at 2k. The screwgie of NNE so far this year, along with NVT. 

White Christmas at IJD and brown up in powderfreak’s condo courtyard? 

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11 minutes ago, dendrite said:

All the respect in the world for Jay, but I’ll take the ovah.

The saving grace is that the models have not initialized the pack awfully well. I have 13 in my backyard even though I'd have to be in NH to see anything over 12" on that map. 

The bad news is it's hard to say how much pack the models think we'll lose when it goes to 0 in so many places. :frostymelt:

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Just now, OceanStWx said:

The saving grace is that the models have not initialized the pack awfully well. I have 13 in my backyard even though I'd have to be in NH to see anything over 12" on that map. 

The bad news is it's hard to say how much pack the models think we'll lose when it goes to 0 in so many places. :frostymelt:

Vaporized to CYUL?

Mid 50s dews and gusting winds will be curtains for the pack south of the Pike. 

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14 minutes ago, wx2fish said:

Brutal pack up in Pittsburg. Trails won't be opening anytime soon. Snowmobile club posted like 6-8" at 2k. The screwgie of NNE so far this year, along with NVT. 

6-8"@2,000' is terrible, Some trails that have snow have just opened here on Dec 15th, Clubs here have been cleaning up trails with downed trees because all the wind damage that has occurred from the last few storms, It looks like they will have more damage upcoming besides thin or lost snow pack in the areas that had it.

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4 hours ago, wx2fish said:

Brutal pack up in Pittsburg. Trails won't be opening anytime soon. Snowmobile club posted like 6-8" at 2k. The screwgie of NNE so far this year, along with NVT. 

Our totals are pretty bad but we’ve had a decent number of days of snow cover.  Had a 10-inch warning criteria upslope storm and plenty of days of snowfall.

Really was just this last event where it really stands out.  When we snow, no one else does...and when everyone else snows, we don’t lol.

The snow cover for this time of year though is the real story though.

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3 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

White Christmas at IJD and brown up in powderfreak’s condo courtyard? 

Ha!  We had our White Thanksgiving, but that one last event may have screwed us for Xmas.  Only 0.40” water frozen on the ground right now up here.

Speaking of IJD, time to install?

Nothing like waking up to dews of 55+ on Xmas Morning (7am).

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2 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Ha!  We had our White Thanksgiving, but that one last event may have screwed us for Xmas.  Only 0.40” water frozen on the ground right now up here.

Speaking of IJD, time to install?

Nothing like waking up to dews of 55+ on Xmas Morning.

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Looks like the slower models are going to win the battle and all of us are going to wake up with tropical dewpoints. Hideous. 

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LEV PRES  HGHT  TEMP  DEWP  RH  DD   WETB DIR SPD THETA THE-V THE-W THE-E   W
     mb     m     C     C    %   C     C  deg knt   K     K     K     K    g/kg
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SFC  982    97  13.6  12.2  91  1.4  12.8 154  24 288.2 289.8 286.6 313.8  9.12
  2  950   380  12.5  11.5  94  0.9  11.9 161  62 289.8 291.4 287.2 315.3  9.02
  3  900   832  10.0   9.9 100  0.1  10.0 166  75 291.8 293.3 287.5 316.2  8.55
  4  850  1306   7.7   7.7 100  0.0   7.7 171  83 294.2 295.6 287.6 316.7  7.79

 

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2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Christmas Eve 94 working at Pfizer in Groton on the Thames was an insane night.  Think it was a top 5 flood. Anyways Friday morning tide is the one to be concerned with.

There was quite a bit of damage in Guilford from that storm. One of the bigger events I recall growing up.

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3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

That was more of a hybrid nor’easter. Damage all over. Even inland. 

Tropical 

The storm originated in an upper-level low pressure system that moved southeastward from the central Great Plains into the Deep South of the United States. After reaching the southeast Gulf of Mexico, the disturbance underwent cyclogenesis, and the resultant system moved through Florida on December 22 in response to an approaching trough.[1] National Hurricane Center forecaster Jack Beven noted that "as it moved out into the Bahamas, it appeared to take on the characteristics of a tropical storm."[2] The uncertain nature of the storm prevented the NHC from issuing advisories on it, and forecasters lacked sufficient data to fully assess the cyclone for potential tropical characteristics. The same trough that pushed the storm across Florida had moved to the north, allowing for high pressure to develop in the upper levels of the atmosphere.[2]

Deemed a "hybrid storm", the cyclone rapidly intensified in warm waters of up to 80 °F (27 °C) from the Gulf Stream combined with a cold air mass over the United States.[3] The system continued to rapidly intensify while moving within the Gulf Stream; it developed central convection, an unusual trait for an extratropical cyclone, and at one point exhibited an eye.[1] Despite these indications of tropical characteristics, "There was no front associated with it and it had a warm core, but the radius of maximum winds was more than 150 nautical miles (170 mi; 280 km), so under the standard NHC criteria it didn't qualify as a tropical storm."[2] On December 23 and 24, the nor'easter intensified to attain a barometric pressure of 970 mb (29 inHg).[2] An upper-level low pressure system that developed behind the storm began to intensify and grew to be larger in size than the original disturbance. In an interaction known as the Fujiwhara effect, the broad circulation of the secondary low swung the primary nor'easter northwestward towards southern New York and New England.[3] The original low passed along the south shore of Long Island, and made landfall near New York City on December 24.[4] 

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1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said:

Tropical 

The storm originated in an upper-level low pressure system that moved southeastward from the central Great Plains into the Deep South of the United States. After reaching the southeast Gulf of Mexico, the disturbance underwent cyclogenesis, and the resultant system moved through Florida on December 22 in response to an approaching trough.[1] National Hurricane Center forecaster Jack Beven noted that "as it moved out into the Bahamas, it appeared to take on the characteristics of a tropical storm."[2] The uncertain nature of the storm prevented the NHC from issuing advisories on it, and forecasters lacked sufficient data to fully assess the cyclone for potential tropical characteristics. The same trough that pushed the storm across Florida had moved to the north, allowing for high pressure to develop in the upper levels of the atmosphere.[2]

Deemed a "hybrid storm", the cyclone rapidly intensified in warm waters of up to 80 °F (27 °C) from the Gulf Stream combined with a cold air mass over the United States.[3] The system continued to rapidly intensify while moving within the Gulf Stream; it developed central convection, an unusual trait for an extratropical cyclone, and at one point exhibited an eye.[1] Despite these indications of tropical characteristics, "There was no front associated with it and it had a warm core, but the radius of maximum winds was more than 150 nautical miles (170 mi; 280 km), so under the standard NHC criteria it didn't qualify as a tropical storm."[2] On December 23 and 24, the nor'easter intensified to attain a barometric pressure of 970 mb (29 inHg).[2] An upper-level low pressure system that developed behind the storm began to intensify and grew to be larger in size than the original disturbance. In an interaction known as the Fujiwhara effect, the broad circulation of the secondary low swung the primary nor'easter northwestward towards southern New York and New England.[3] The original low passed along the south shore of Long Island, and made landfall near New York City on December 24.[4] 

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Yep. At least tropical characteristics anyways. I know they are or planned to look at this.

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