CoastalWx Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Rainfall Jack ! Awesome Tolland County... Tolland 3.56 243 PM 12/25 CWOP Hebron 2.99 245 PM 12/25 CWOP Staffordville 2.04 915 AM 12/25 Co-Op Observer Congrats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 52 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Wet avy on 12/25 is less than ideal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Congrats? Rays pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: Rays pleased You know who is happy for you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Just now, CoastalWx said: You know who is happy for you? Just try and find a window of a snow chance in the next 7-10 days. Please and thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1.34". Pretty tameSent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindancewx Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Amazing to think how warm this month would have been in the Northeast & Midwest without the -NAO and the snowstorms honestly. The WPO is a pretty big warm signal for the Northeast in December when positive and a cold signal for the interior West, so seems like we are seeing pretty canonical effects of its dirty work. The US had a warm November, but the warmth in Canada this month is impressive too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 4 hours ago, CoastalWx said: You hate to see that. Yeah, You hate to see that really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1.93" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 It’s surprisingly to me that wind forecasts are so horrible (poorly predicted in this day and age) is it politics of forecasting where it’s so much safer to warn people by forecasting sort of the worst and then when it doesn’t happen nobody slams you ? Bc they know if you don’t and there are widespread outages there are serious consequences? Was there a tine when it became apparent the big outages were Thankfully not happening . The Hrrr began backing off yesterday thru the day . I know Scott was skeptical and Wiz was as well as some point . It was like weenies gone wild about winds for days in here . Were things really just up in the air until go time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Give props to @weatherwiz, he called this on the weak winds and everyone was treating him terribly calling him a little boy met and he needs to calm down. Very unfair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: It’s surprisingly to me that wind forecasts are so horrible (poorly predicted in this day and age) is it politics of forecasting where it’s so much safer to warn people by forecasting sort of the worst and then when it doesn’t happen nobody slams you ? Bc they know if you don’t and there are widespread outages there are serious consequences? Was there a tine when it became apparent the big outages were Thankfully not happening . The Hrrr began backing off yesterday thru the day . I know Scott was skeptical and Wiz was as well as some point . It was like weenies gone wild about winds for days in here . Were things really just up in the air until go time ? Same thing as models spitting out ice storms at 31.5 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 24 hour snowpack comparison (actually more like 25 hours...4pm yesterday to almost 5pm today) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 I think most of us said to toss the winds inland. The best chances were just away from the shoreline. There were some high 60-70mph gusts in CT. It was probably a little more meh than I expected, but other than Kevin I don't think many were going wild here. We always laugh at the weenie gust maps that people post here and on Twitter. I gave Wizzy a bit of a hard time, but I didn't necessarily disagree with him...he just seemed a little needlessly angry about the higher wind forecasts. It was a pretty strong LLJ with torched low levels so I was intrigued to see it play out. The BOX numbers did seem over the top though. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavwtby Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: Congrats? 4.59" freehold NY...got 2.05" official here, seems on par with the area, temp dropped 15 degrees in the last two hours... highest gust here on my PWS was 53, I'm guessing that was around 3 when the big limb came crashing on the garage... fortunately not major damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Whineminster said: Give props to @weatherwiz, he called this on the weak winds and everyone was treating him terribly calling him a little boy met and he needs to calm down. Very unfair. 1 minute ago, dendrite said: I think most of us said to toss the winds inland. The best chances were just away from the shoreline. There were some high 60-70mph gusts in CT. It was probably a little more meh than I expected, but other than Kevin I don't think many were going wild here. We always laugh at the weenie gust maps that people post here and on Twitter. I gave Wizzy a bit of a hard time, but I didn't necessarily disagree with him...he just seemed a little needlessly angry about the higher wind forecasts. It was a pretty strong LLJ with torched low levels so I was intrigued to see it play out. The BOX numbers did seem over the top though. It was a very tough forecast for sure. If I was coming off angry about the higher wind forecasts I apologize as that was not my intention at all. This really just goes to show how important communication is and how important it is to clearly communicate. But I never try to come across that way and I love hearing input from everyone and discussing the science behind everything. For this event, I didn't think we would see widespread significant wind gusts (60-70), but there were certainly a few more than I thought as well. This was also tied into that fine line of convection which really helped with these higher end wind gusts. I also agree, these torched low-levels and higher sfc dews would be a pretty strong indicator for higher-end wind gusts but the lapse rates were just horrific and I recall this being a huge differentiator between widespread higher-end wind potential and more localized higher-end gusts. Even going through so many bufkit profiles and playing around with the mixing layer depth...it was real tough to find consistent mixing drawing down super strong winds and I thought that was a big flag. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: 24 hour snowpack comparison (actually more like 25 hours...4pm yesterday to almost 5pm today) You have more “pack” than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoalaBeer Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Holy crap! Looks like an inbounds avalanche on the east coast..Not sure what kind of precedent there is for that. Photos stolen from here. https://nyskiblog.com/forum/threads/belleayre-conditions.658/page-7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 32 minutes ago, dendrite said: I think most of us said to toss the winds inland. The best chances were just away from the shoreline. There were some high 60-70mph gusts in CT. It was probably a little more meh than I expected, but other than Kevin I don't think many were going wild here. We always laugh at the weenie gust maps that people post here and on Twitter. I gave Wizzy a bit of a hard time, but I didn't necessarily disagree with him...he just seemed a little needlessly angry about the higher wind forecasts. It was a pretty strong LLJ with torched low levels so I was intrigued to see it play out. The BOX numbers did seem over the top though. I never went wild . The 55-65 with gusts to 70 verified in SNE. Ryan, BOX etc nailed it BDL 62 mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Wife never saw Diehard,so.....Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Wife never saw Diehard,so..... Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk It’s a Christmas movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: I never went wild . The 55-65 with gusts to 70 verified in SNE. Ryan, BOX etc nailed it BDL 62 mph But there is also a difference and this is something that also needs to be communicated better within these type of events. How common were these gusts? Common as in; 1) Were they more on a widespread scale or more localized? 2) Were these gusts common in the sense as they occurred frequently or was it something that happened to occur once at a specific location? This is another differentiator between the bigger events and the more mundane events. When we see the events produce we are seeing constant 60+ mph over the course of several hours...not just one gust tied into a convective band moving through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 The 70 and 71 readings were CWOP sites too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderBeard Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, KoalaBeer said: Holy crap! Looks like an inbounds avalanche on the east coast..Not sure what kind of precedent there is for that. Photos stolen from here. https://nyskiblog.com/forum/threads/belleayre-conditions.658/page-7 More pics on FB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Meh on winds as usual 2.21" rain and high 62.2Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: I never went wild . The 55-65 with gusts to 70 verified in SNE. Ryan, BOX etc nailed it BDL 62 mph How many outages This gives the idea how isolated higher gusts were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 4 hours ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: This was an all-time great Grinch. I almost always maintain a pack through these and I will be down to a couple of piles, if that. This was impressive. Just eviscerating up to 2”+ liquid equiv snowpack in spots. The duration of warmth and dews is top tier everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Allsnow Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 6 hours ago, CoastalWx said: You hate to see that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Winds right now are probably similar to the height of the storm here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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